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  • as if you will find an answer here,
    We never really grow up, we only learn how to act in public.

    If I agree with you we w'd both be wrong.

    Be good, If you can't be good be lucky

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    • also IF(a big IF) you do find an answer you will go and tell people here is the line, everyone here have made up their mind, at least about religious beliefs.
      We never really grow up, we only learn how to act in public.

      If I agree with you we w'd both be wrong.

      Be good, If you can't be good be lucky

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      • A kafir is someone who follows a sect that Islam does not approve.

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        • A kafir is anyone who is not muslim. Like jews, christians, hindus, sikhs, qadianis, shias, sufis, zoroastrians and anyone who does not follow Allahs messenger [s].

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          • You mentioned Qadianis, Shi'as and Sufis, why?
            Islam will prevail, a promise made by the Creator of this universe:

            [61:8] They desire to extinguish the light of Allah with the breath of their mouths, but Allah will perfect His light, even if the disbelievers hate it.

            [61:9] He it is Who has sent His Messenger with the guidance and the Religion of truth, that He may cause it to prevail over all religions, even if those who associate partners with God hate it.

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            • Because they do not follow Allahs Messenger [s]

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              • Have you been among them? Have you read their literature?
                Islam will prevail, a promise made by the Creator of this universe:

                [61:8] They desire to extinguish the light of Allah with the breath of their mouths, but Allah will perfect His light, even if the disbelievers hate it.

                [61:9] He it is Who has sent His Messenger with the guidance and the Religion of truth, that He may cause it to prevail over all religions, even if those who associate partners with God hate it.

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                • Yep

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                  • You have?

                    Okay, describe your experience among Ahmadis.
                    Islam will prevail, a promise made by the Creator of this universe:

                    [61:8] They desire to extinguish the light of Allah with the breath of their mouths, but Allah will perfect His light, even if the disbelievers hate it.

                    [61:9] He it is Who has sent His Messenger with the guidance and the Religion of truth, that He may cause it to prevail over all religions, even if those who associate partners with God hate it.

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                    • My experience is that they are kuffar lol

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                      • Well, you should share your experience with us. You said you have spent time among them, so it should be easy to describe one thing, at least.

                        If you have spent time among then talk about your experiences. Or is it that you are lying, which I don't think you would do.
                        Islam will prevail, a promise made by the Creator of this universe:

                        [61:8] They desire to extinguish the light of Allah with the breath of their mouths, but Allah will perfect His light, even if the disbelievers hate it.

                        [61:9] He it is Who has sent His Messenger with the guidance and the Religion of truth, that He may cause it to prevail over all religions, even if those who associate partners with God hate it.

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                        • Interesting how Inqilab is hesitating from narrating his experience. I wonder why?
                          Islam will prevail, a promise made by the Creator of this universe:

                          [61:8] They desire to extinguish the light of Allah with the breath of their mouths, but Allah will perfect His light, even if the disbelievers hate it.

                          [61:9] He it is Who has sent His Messenger with the guidance and the Religion of truth, that He may cause it to prevail over all religions, even if those who associate partners with God hate it.

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                          • That is my experience. That they are kuffar. Period.

                            They believe in a book called kitab al mubeen which is different then our Quran.

                            They think an indian town qadian is a holy place.

                            Their women are dirty who have no shame. They sleep around with non-mahram men.

                            The have a bunch of shops here where they try to scam people out of money.

                            They allow drugs and alcohol. Some of them were caught smuggling and selling drugs and were sentenced to death.

                            Other were caned after being caught in scams in lottery.

                            That is my experience. They are a filthy group of people. What else? That is their religion.

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                            • Originally posted by inqilab View Post
                              That is my experience. That they are kuffar. Period.

                              They believe in a book called kitab al mubeen which is different then our Quran.

                              They think an indian town qadian is a holy place.

                              Their women are dirty who have no shame. They sleep around with non-mahram men.

                              The have a bunch of shops here where they try to scam people out of money.

                              They allow drugs and alcohol. Some of them were caught smuggling and selling drugs and were sentenced to death.

                              Other were caned after being caught in scams in lottery.

                              That is my experience. They are a filthy group of people. What else? That is their religion.
                              Its different how is it different Inqilab?

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                              • Anyone who believes in Unity of Allah and Muhammad SAW is a MUSLIM.
                                It does not matter, he ties hands on chest or below, or does not tie his hands or something else he does.
                                Anyone who believes, he is Muslim
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