Who is a kafir--where do we draw the line?

[eyeliner]

No one has the right to label anyone a non muslim, even if someone is sinning, because we don't know their inward maqam/state with Allah, and they may be closer to Allah then we are. For e.g. the prostitute that was forgiven because she gave water to a dog. Prosittution is a sin and yet God forgave her. We don't have the right to judge anyone.

[king-zazai]

I feel pity for you.

Secondly who made king zazai judge who is real pashtun and who is not.

Were the Pashtuns before Islam was created not real Pashtuns?

Its only since the Soviet war that people such as you with your mentality were born. Pakistani ISI and CIA booklets brainwashed new generations of Pashtuns into beleiving that Pashtun only=Islam but sadly that is not the case.

If we are Kaffirs then you are a Savage Wahabist ISI son of Charlie Wilson.

No Offence intended.

Kind Regards

ya 4 unreligous poor ppl who dont have anything in in this life like U if sum1 follow rasul ibn abdullah(saw) he is a wahabi hehe

and if he does no pray and hates on every1 and is jelous of ppl living good lives he is a normal "muslim" like u right????

was not ur for fathers father father ALL religous???????????? huh?????????????? ur just another lost fake pashtun who has no deen and i feel sorry 4 ur granfather what a hopeless usless gran son they have

change before its 2 late, repent before its 2 late

[eyeliner]

^^ what gives you the authority to say that to someone?

[abubaker]

Very good post MeemWawMeemNoon this is our problem. Sangar calls you kafir, Abubaker calls me Kafir.


This is why Jews rule us.

walaka sa chatyath lagya ye, ma cha tha kafir wayali di pa di forum ki

[eyeliner]

everyone uses big words so lightly.

[MazloomyarMaseed]

ya 4 unreligous poor ppl who dont have anything in in this life like U if sum1 follow rasul ibn abdullah(saw) he is a wahabi hehe

and if he does no pray and hates on every1 and is jelous of ppl living good lives he is a normal "muslim" like u right????

was not ur for fathers father father ALL religous???????????? huh?????????????? ur just another lost fake pashtun who has no deen and i feel sorry 4 ur granfather what a hopeless usless gran son they have

change before its 2 late, repent before its 2 late

Dear King Zazai

Why do you bring my family into it. A real Pashtun would never bring family members into a debate or dispute. But As usual you follow the Abdul Wahab who was not only disowned by his own father but his own brother wrote several books exposing him as a agent of Britain.

You say Iam hopeless but I have a great career, I make and contribute alot for my family unlike you who is most probably sat on benefits in some western country enjoying the freedoms and benefits of a secular welfare system.

By the way my gran father was a Engineer and my father was one of the first Maseeds to get selected by the British for his excellence in Medicine.

My grand Father's brother fought against the British Army and he was well known as defeating many britsh officers and his respect still lives today since he has passed away. You see, he was never as arrogant as you are and he never judged people based on their faith.

People such as you will never live a life without attacking somebody I.E Shias and Sufis, so you are a threat to world peace and your intelligence resembles your character for which i dont even want to discuss as we can see it very clearly.

My father being one of the first Maseeds to come to the UK has been feeding a whole family of over 200 people with his salery for the last 30 years and I garantee me, my grandfather and myself are not hopeless but I could say quite Successful.

If you see I can introduce you to many doctors,lawyers, professionals who dont even follow relgion and they are very successful, on the other hand i can introduce you to many Wahabis/Salafis who suffer from Psyhcosis and are mentally ill due to the brainwashing they have been put through and they are very hopeles as they dont want to be successful in this life but yarn to harm others and harm other peoples faiths for a reward in the afterlife.

So before you speak of my family or my gran father, please look at my family before you talk.

Kind Regards

[abubaker]

Dear King Zazai

Why do you bring my family into it. A real Pashtun would never bring family members into a debate or dispute. But As usual you follow the Abdul Wahab who was not only disowned by his own father but his own brother wrote several books exposing him as a agent of Britain.

You say Iam hopeless but I have a great career, I make and contribute alot for my family unlike you who is most probably sat on benefits in some western country enjoying the freedoms and benefits of a secular welfare system.

By the way my gran father was a Engineer and my father was one of the first Maseeds to get selected by the British for his excellence in Medicine.

My grand Father's brother fought against the British Army and he was well known as defeating many britsh officers and his respect still lives today since he has passed away. You see, he was never as arrogant as you are and he never judged people based on their faith.

People such as you will never live a life without attacking somebody I.E Shias and Sufis, so you are a threat to world peace and your intelligence resembles your character for which i dont even want to discuss as we can see it very clearly.

My father being one of the first Maseeds to come to the UK has been feeding a whole family of over 200 people with his salery for the last 30 years and I garantee me, my grandfather and myself are not hopeless but I could say quite Successful.

If you see I can introduce you to many doctors,lawyers, professionals who dont even follow relgion and they are very successful, on the other hand i can introduce you to many Wahabis/Salafis who suffer from Psyhcosis and are mentally ill due to the brainwashing they have been put through and they are very hopeles as they dont want to be successful in this life but yarn to harm others and harm other peoples faiths for a reward in the afterlife.

So before you speak of my family or my gran father, please look at my family before you talk.

Kind Regards

wow
have you forgoten our very first debate. or have you got amnesia

[MazloomyarMaseed]

Abubaker, he changed now. He doesn't insult members now.

are you one of this foot soldiers?

[abubaker]

ohhh the clean shaven talib of the wild wild west.

Hows the offensive jihad going. did you collect your asylum seekers cheque to pay off your foot soldiers?

Butt out of my comments, I was speaking to King Zazai not you.

No Kind Regards

more filth coming from your mouth

[eyeliner]

maseed......are you from the UK?

[abubaker]

are you one of this foot soldiers?

read his post to me

[spogmai shaglay]

i dont understand Momin why, and to whom are u trying to prove that u r a Mulsim..

the one, Allah Talla. who should know what u are,,, knows it well than any body else on this earth..

dont try to prove ur self to people... who wont give a sincere ear to ur words.....

its a sin to call a person with Imaan as Kaafir...

[eyeliner]

^^ true.

[eyeliner]

why is everyone so quick to judge?

[MazloomyarMaseed]

more filth coming from your mouth

Whatever man! Learn to keep your self out of things that dont involve you.

Kind Regards