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  • u can be an ahmedi all u want but dnt call yourself a muslim.... the ulema have declared them outside the fold of Islam... they have no right to the title of Muslim a name given 2 us By God to the UMMA of Muhammad (PBUH) Ahmedis follow some randy old goat who died in India
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    • nor do I use Gods blessed name on such vain topics such as the death of a lier
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      • Originally posted by Dreamer View Post
        he died on a toilet .... try answering his claims on his cousin if you are so adamanet 2 preserve his fake claims 2 prophethood...... I dont have anything 2 proove to a non muslim such as yourself....
        You are spreading information as though you know for sure. Hence, that is why I am waiting for your testimony, otherwise, you yourself are only spreading falsehood.

        So, please save us all from useless debate and testify for you claim to know better.

        Testify this:

        "I bear witness that Mirza Ghulam Ahmad died in the manner which I am describing, if I am lying then may the curse and wrath of Allah be upon me."

        If you are not going to testify the above then stop spreading this false information. If you continue to spread this false information then it means that you are testifying to the above.
        Islam will prevail, a promise made by the Creator of this universe:

        [61:8] They desire to extinguish the light of Allah with the breath of their mouths, but Allah will perfect His light, even if the disbelievers hate it.

        [61:9] He it is Who has sent His Messenger with the guidance and the Religion of truth, that He may cause it to prevail over all religions, even if those who associate partners with God hate it.

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        • Originally posted by MeemWawMeemNoon View Post
          You are spreading information as though you know for sure. Hence, that is why I am waiting for your testimony, otherwise, you yourself are only spreading falsehood.

          So, please save us all from useless debate and testify for you claim to know better.

          Testify this:

          "I bear witness that Mirza Ghulam Ahmad died in the manner which I am describing, if I am lying then may the curse and wrath of Allah be upon me."

          If you are not going to testify the above then stop spreading this false information. If you continue to spread this false information then it means that you are testifying to the above.
          BLAH BLAH BLAH
          I dont use Gods name on a lier such as mizra Gulham ahmed.... try harder
          AHmedisim is false perhaps u wld do wise to follow ur own words
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          • maybe you cant answer why he didnt marry his cousin.... simple she saw him for what he was.... can u blame her I mean dude he was UUUUUUUUGLY!
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            • Originally posted by MeemWawMeemNoon View Post
              If someone has claimed to be the Messiah, it is our responsible to find out. I am very much inclined towards Ahmadiyyat.
              hmm......well over thirty people had claimed to be imam mahdi, but it turned out that they were making it up, lol yh so by now you would have figured that mirza was stringing everyone a line, he was a no body, he was jealous of our Rasul SAW and he just wanted to be famous. Seriously, what is there in ahmadiism that your inclined towards. Btw.....i think if someone claims something its their responsibility to prove to us that they are telling the truth.

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              • Originally posted by eyeliner View Post
                hmm......well over thirty people had claimed to be imam mahdi, but it turned out that they were making it up, lol yh so by now you would have figured that mirza was stringing everyone a line, he was a no body, he was jealous of our Rasul SAW and he just wanted to be famous. Seriously, what is there in ahmadiism that your inclined towards. Btw.....i think if someone claims something its their responsibility to prove to us that they are telling the truth.
                Dearest sister,

                how do you believe that Islam is correct? Let us start from here.
                Islam will prevail, a promise made by the Creator of this universe:

                [61:8] They desire to extinguish the light of Allah with the breath of their mouths, but Allah will perfect His light, even if the disbelievers hate it.

                [61:9] He it is Who has sent His Messenger with the guidance and the Religion of truth, that He may cause it to prevail over all religions, even if those who associate partners with God hate it.

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                • ^exactly... look at mizra prophecy regarding his cousin how it DIDNT come to pass.... thats more than enough 2 show u what he was.... there are plenty more gems from his sayings which show him 4 what he was..... a sad attention seeking idiot.... Personality disorder whith a smattering of Schizophrenia.... Olanzapine STAT!
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                  • Originally posted by Dreamer View Post
                    BLAH BLAH BLAH
                    I dont use Gods name on a lier such as mizra Gulham ahmed.... try harder
                    AHmedisim is false perhaps u wld do wise to follow ur own words
                    Well, this is the way of cowards.

                    At least we know that you yourself don't know and are simply following allegations. Good to know how the truth comes out.

                    Nonetheless, if you spread information without first confirming it then, as I said, it is as though you have bore witness.
                    Islam will prevail, a promise made by the Creator of this universe:

                    [61:8] They desire to extinguish the light of Allah with the breath of their mouths, but Allah will perfect His light, even if the disbelievers hate it.

                    [61:9] He it is Who has sent His Messenger with the guidance and the Religion of truth, that He may cause it to prevail over all religions, even if those who associate partners with God hate it.

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                    • Dreamer, you lack a lot of etiquette. It would not hurt to be polite. It will do you a lot of good.

                      Just a brotherly advice.
                      Islam will prevail, a promise made by the Creator of this universe:

                      [61:8] They desire to extinguish the light of Allah with the breath of their mouths, but Allah will perfect His light, even if the disbelievers hate it.

                      [61:9] He it is Who has sent His Messenger with the guidance and the Religion of truth, that He may cause it to prevail over all religions, even if those who associate partners with God hate it.

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                      • HAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHA
                        Like I said I dont take Gods name lightly maybe you ahmedis do.... lord knows what u ppl do....

                        Mirza was A LIAR..... We will NEVER BELIEVE HIM.... you might think hes the bees knees but we dont ! we think of him as shall we say Khanzeer... ooops thats an insult to the pig species
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                        • Originally posted by MeemWawMeemNoon View Post
                          Dreamer, you lack a lot of etiquette. It would not hurt to be polite. It will do you a lot of good.

                          Just a brotherly advice.
                          I dont need advise from the likes of u thanks! I am not ur brother .... Please dont call me as such.... and I dnt like talking 2 pseudo muslims... so please direct ur posts elsewhere
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                          • Originally posted by Dreamer View Post
                            HAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHA
                            Like I said I dont take Gods name lightly maybe you ahmedis do.... lord knows what u ppl do....

                            Mirza was A LIAR..... We will NEVER BELIEVE HIM.... you might think hes the bees knees but we dont ! we think of him as shall we say Khanzeer... ooops thats an insult to the pig species


                            Well, we will just have to wait for Allah's verdict.

                            Please keep us informed.
                            Islam will prevail, a promise made by the Creator of this universe:

                            [61:8] They desire to extinguish the light of Allah with the breath of their mouths, but Allah will perfect His light, even if the disbelievers hate it.

                            [61:9] He it is Who has sent His Messenger with the guidance and the Religion of truth, that He may cause it to prevail over all religions, even if those who associate partners with God hate it.

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                            • in the words of the Torah
                              Though shalt NOT take the Lord your Gods name In VAIN
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                              • hahahaha u ahmedi kaffirs think an awful lot of urselves.... let me know how dooghas is!
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