Why are Ahmadis considered non-Muslims in Pakistan

[MeemWawMeemNoon]

Who do you mean by him?

Beloved sister,

Hadhrat Isa (as).

[MeemWawMeemNoon]

It is. However, one must take every hadith with a grain of salt and must view them in light of the Quran.

Let me ask you this question: Why do you we need a Messiah or a Mahdi?

[MeemWawMeemNoon]

To guide us on the proper path. To enlighten us on what Allah JALLAJALLAHO

has to say, correct me If I am wrong.

I am so deeply touched by what you have said, because this is exactly what is it. Nothing more and nothing less.

Masha Allah.

[MeemWawMeemNoon]

Yes, dearest sister.

[MeemWawMeemNoon]

So now where does Mirza Ghulam come into role?

Everything is done and said.


Muhammad is the seal of prophethood. Jesus will return to Enlighten us.

You answered you own question, my beloved younger sister.

[MeemWawMeemNoon]

The reason why you are confused, my sister, is because you are expecting the physical descent of Hadhrat Isa (as). He is passed away as per the Holy Quran.

[MeemWawMeemNoon]

Now this is where our investigation starts. Are you up for it?

[MeemWawMeemNoon]

This is awesome! I love people like you who want to learn.They make me appreciate human beings more.

Please give my sincerest greetings to your beloved parents.

[MeemWawMeemNoon]

The problem dearest is that we have to conclude whether Hadhrat Isa (as) is dead or alive. This will solve ALL the problems. Plain and simple.

Do you follow me?

[MeemWawMeemNoon]

Insha Allah, when we discuss whether he is passed away or alive we will have deal about what Islam says about him. So, hang in there dear sister.

[Mujib]

Can I ask what Islam says about Hadhrat ISA?

I posted a talk of Shaykh Abdurrahman ibn Yusuf here: Muslim Understanding of the Last Days of Jesus - Mufti Abdurrahman ibn Yusuf.

This is a very beneficial talk that we should all listen to. It was given around the time of the release of the film The Passion of Christ. Mufti Abdurrahman clarifies the Islamic belief regarding Sayyidina `Isa (as).

There is also an excellent booklet on Sayyidina `Isa (as) and his mother Bibi Maryam (as): Jesus Christ the Son of Mary and His Blessed Mother.

[eyeliner]

ok so wat exactly do ismaili's believe?

[MeemWawMeemNoon]

Ahmadis are kaffir ghulam mirza died havin a poo when he said he was going to die near mecca

Mirza Ghulam Ahmad did not die in the washroom. He died on his bed.

I posted a youtube clip about this.

Even if he did, how does that take away from what he said or did? There is no litmus test that if someone dies in the washroom he is wrong.

Further, there were no witnesses from among those who rejected him to confirm this claim under oath. When Allah disrespects someone He does in publicly to show an example of that person so as to warn others.

This whole story of him dying in the washroom is a made up story based on the fact that he was extremely weak due to diarrhea. One should be very careful when conveying a message, you don't want the wrath of Allah on you.

The Prophet (saw) says that Allah deal will someone in the same manner that person views Allah. So, if you think that dying in the washroom is a dishonorable death, then Allah might surely fulfill it on you. So, you better be at your best.

Whether Mirza Ghulam Ahmad is right or wrong, it does not matter. One should always extend justice to everyone. This is how we should work.

Don't judge the man based on conjecture, have fear of Allah. Judge the man based on what he said and did.

[eyeliner]

well the clear distinction is they believe in reincarnation

and that hazrat ali was god in human form through reincarnation

astagfirullah

tobah i didnt know tat. Btw....ur siggy looks kinda girly, no offence.

[eyeliner]

lol eyeliner i ll change it your kinda right lolz

the majority of shia muslims the ithna asharia's themselves say ismailis are kaffir

the majority of sunni muslims say ahmadis are kaffir i guess theres just extreme branches in both schools of thought


having said all this i try to not to go into all this schiism anymore its kinda pointless i just focus on my 5 pillars and trying to be practising nowadays thats more of a real challenge

agree with ya!!