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  • Why are Ahmadis considered non-Muslims in Pakistan

    its not just pakistan, its worldwide... they dont accept finality of prophethood. their founder made heinous slurs against the Virgin Mary etc ( PS my best friend is ahmedi so Im not anti ahmedi) but they aint muslim
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  • #2
    Originally posted by Kandahary
    Why are Ahmadis ruled out as non-Muslims yet Agha khanis and all those other sects enjoy freedom? Why is it that when there mosque got attacked people were happy about it, why is that?


    Thanks

    aka khanis are also non muslim... of the shia I would accept the Itna ashiriya shia as muslim, the zaidi as muslim but aga khani nope... One only needs 2 look at their prayer to see disblief... maybe paks dont care 2 much abt them since their founder aka jinnah was one loooooool
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    • #3
      finality of prophethood is a key 2 be muslim... they dont accept it... why not call the alavi muslims and the drooze and the bahai muslim if we call the ahmedi muslim loool
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      • #4
        muslim- you must accept finality of prophethood nor must you slander previous prophets.... ahmedis flop on those 2 .... look up what mirza said about the Christ and what he said about his mother and also his claims of prophethood
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        • #5
          most dnt knw what their founder said... I mean I dnt think he did... was he a reincarnation of Vishnu as he claimed? was he a preacher of Islam? a reformer? a prophet? or the messiah? looooool
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          • #6
            Ismalis and Shia are less of a muslim than Ahmadis.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Dreamer View Post
              muslim- you must accept finality of prophethood nor must you slander previous prophets.... ahmedis flop on those 2 .... look up what mirza said about the Christ and what he said about his mother and also his claims of prophethood
              Malgariya, Would would agree, I am sure, that the Parliament of Pakistan does not have the right to label a community as 'Non-Moslem' and oppress it as a result?

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              • #8
                Ishmalis are non muslim... as for the itna ashiriya shia they maintain finality of prophethood so how are they less????
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                • #9
                  common guys.. they think jesus is buried in kashmir.
                  They have their prophet mirza ghulam.

                  The base of their belief doesnt make em muslims.
                  Intezar che pa salgo sho no ta raghley
                  Che me jwand pa dobedo sho no ta raghley.....

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                  • #10
                    so... look at Drooze... look at bahai... youll find many things similar 2 Islam... does that make them muslim? No
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                    • #11
                      no you have to accept FINALITY of prophethood... they dont
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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Kandahary
                        My exact sentiments.

                        I feel as though Ahmadis pray 5x a day, read the Quran yet we kill them? Is this not wrong Star?
                        Considering them Muslims and killing them are two separate issues. They are not considered Muslim because they reject the finality of the Prophet's (Allah bless him and give him peace) prophethood, a fundamental Muslim belief laid out in the Qur'an.

                        As for vigilante groups attacking and killings Ahmadis, that is wrong and unacceptable.
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                        • #13
                          they say mirza is a prophet after him...
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                          • #14
                            devout ahmedis not muslims
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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by hindupashtun
                              why do they say that?

                              they follow some dude who was half the time high on something or other and worked for imperial britian... ask them dude!
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