Why are Ahmadis considered non-Muslims in Pakistan

[MeemWawMeemNoon]

Might also have something to do with the fact that the Bhuttos, traditionally were Shia. Nusrat Bhutto nee Ispahani also comes from a Shia Persian-Kurdish family. For Butto Snr to declare Shias non-Muslims in Pakistan would be like declaring war on his own family.

But in politics people are fickle, because Bhutto was very anti-Hindu quite overlooking the fact that the biggest Hindu community in Pakistan came from his own Sindhi patch and that his own mother was in fact born a Hindu.

Bhutto was a friend of the Ahmadis until he sold them out for political gain.

[Master Khan]

^ And how do you suppose he will be back?
On a space ship? or will the sky open up and he will decend down?

No to make fun of it. I don't want to seem like I'm mocking it. Just asking.

Traditional Muslims believe that Jesus will return at a time close to the end of the world. The Qur'anic verse they allude to as an indicator to Jesus' future return is as follows:

“And (Jesus) shall be a Sign (for the coming of) the Hour (of Judgment): therefore have no doubt about the (Hour), but follow ye Me: this is a Straight Way.”[

[MeemWawMeemNoon]

I am not an Alim so i dont give decrees neither verdicts on who is a Muslim and who is not. Bhutto was a politician and politics is a dirty game. I am not interested in playing politics i am simply talking about simple basics of Islam and the Kalima we recite being a simple Muslim.


Being Muslims we believe in the finality of Prophethood of Muhammad (PBUH) and anyone deviating from it is out of Islam as per Islamic beliefs isnt it or not???

As far as this shia sunni issue personally i feel its more political in nature than theological (may be i am wrong but its what i understood)

Then how are you able to concluded that the Ahmadiyya issue is not political and the sunni-shia matter is?

[MeemWawMeemNoon]

So the Ahmadis lobbyist got him hanged

What is the population of Ahmadis?

Nope!

Zia ul Haqq had his own reasons. That is why I said a zaalim is punished by a zaalim.

Zia ul Haqq died a filthy death also.

Allah does come to the rescue of good people.

[abubaker]

I am sure if strategistmaseed was alive during the time of Mad Mullah Pawinda, he would have labeled him with the same labels the British used to defame him.

Because maseed is blinded by his hate for Islam.

pa qisa ke ye sar pi ma khugawa,

Bar-e kajj ba-manzel na-merasad

[MeemWawMeemNoon]

Kaka you talk way too much and know very little, try reading their shahadah on their satanic temple



What does that say?

That has been photoshopped.

This is one of their mosques:

[abubaker]

That has been photoshopped.

This is one of their mosques:

http://www.alislam.org/gallery2/d/66722-3/aay.jpg

http://www.alislam.org/gallery2/d/66725-2/aak.jpg

http://www.alislam.org/gallery2/d/66727-2/aal.jpg

http://www.alislam.org/gallery2/d/66729-2/aam.jpg

http://www.alislam.org/gallery2/d/66731-2/aan.jpg

http://www.alislam.org/gallery2/d/66733-2/aao.jpg

http://www.alislam.org/gallery2/d/66735-2/aap.jpg

http://www.alislam.org/gallery2/d/66737-2/aaq.jpg

http://www.alislam.org/gallery2/d/66739-2/aar.jpg

http://www.alislam.org/gallery2/d/66741-2/aas.jpg

http://www.alislam.org/gallery2/d/66743-2/aat.jpg

http://www.alislam.org/gallery2/d/66745-2/aau.jpg

http://www.alislam.org/gallery2/d/66747-2/aav.jpg

http://www.alislam.org/gallery2/d/66749-2/aaw.jpg

http://www.alislam.org/gallery2/d/66751-2/aax.jpg

there's no way of photoshoping such a lowres image without ruining it, it would have been to obvious if it was photoshoped, i cant see any thing that would suggest it was indeed photoshoped

allah aalim

[MeemWawMeemNoon]

If he believes that Mirza was a messiah or a prophet than yes your cousin is not a Muslim

The British created the Qadiyani movement for the purpose to taint the Indian freedom fighters and have them stop resisting British occupation. Mirza Qaiyani gave a false legal opinion that the religious duty of fighting against enemies of Islaam had been abrogated and called people to surrender and co-operate with the imperialist British authorities in India

Anyone who believes that fighting has been nullified in Islaam has left Islaam in total. No matter how much they pray or fast or claim to love Islaam, all of this is futile

Where is your proof that the British created him?
Also, would you attack a government that is allowing you to practice your religion in peace?

[MeemWawMeemNoon]

Mr. Meow your continuous slander against Rasulullah seem to have cursed your intellect and now you go on calling people who believe in a false Prophet as Muslims

When did I slander our beloved Prophet (saw)?

Brother, have fear of Allah.

[شمله ور خراساني]

When did I slander our beloved Prophet (saw)?

Brother, have fear of Allah.

you have slandered him when you attributed a lie against him with your fabricated hadith.

[MeemWawMeemNoon]

I see.

Now, I am confused with the amount of nonsense I have read in the internet on various sources.


Do Ahmadis say the proper Kalimah or they add there own words to it?

By Allah, I am a witness and their kalimah is "la ilaaha ilallahu muhammadur rasulullah."

This is their website, look at the background (in green). It is clearly stated "Muhammad".

Ahmadiyya Muslim Community - Al Islam Online - Official Website

[MeemWawMeemNoon]

you have slandered him when you attributed a lie against him with your fabricated hadith.

Brother, if you interpreted that love for one's nation is not part of faith then that is your right.

I believe it is the words of our Prophet (saw).

[MeemWawMeemNoon]

[شمله ور خراساني]

Brother, if you interpreted that love for one's nation is not part of faith then that is your right.

I believe it is the words of our Prophet (saw).

you believe? Some people believe jesus is son of god. But there is no verse in the bible to prove this.

So if you belive whatever lie you told about the prophet saww to be true, what difference is there between you and a christian?

[MeemWawMeemNoon]

you believe? Some people believe jesus is son of god. But there is no verse in the bible to prove this.

So if you belive whatever lie you told about the prophet saww to be true, what difference is there between you and a christian?

Were you there in the time of the Prophet (saw)?