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  • Afghanistan2010 -
    of course, I know they are lousier than can be imagined
    with
    -- no hearts
    -- no souls
    Empty shells, in fact

    Funny I was just thinking yesterday about the contractors
    that got killed in Fallujah. I remember I saw the news
    when in an airport and was a little shocked.
    But I never felt sorry for these guys.
    Later all the bad stuff came out about what they were really doing over there
    and now i am surprised that more weren't apprehended
    and punished for their misdeeds against
    real human beings
    done by these frightening ROBOTS FOR THE CAUSE OF EVIL.

    That's a new perspective to look at them like they are the KGB
    or Chinese Communist units which terrorized Uighurs, Tibetans
    and their own Han people who dared resist their inhuman system.

    You're probably right - these are all from the same
    demonic mold.

    I was hoping that maybe some of those who may be only in the early
    stages of application would see what I wrote and
    realize how much their zeal is completely in the wrong way
    - and go find a real job instead of imagining they are all Rambos, or whatever !

    Since all these people who apply are probably hungry to prove
    their coolness by engaging in a new Crusade.
    When the real Crusade is against Zionists,
    not doing their foot-soldier work.
    Also the Jewish Mafiya which is destroying America.

    No Afghan has ever touched America in any way !
    Of course the applicants to Blackwater/Xe might
    be too dense to figure that patently obvious fact out.

    Well hope they keep reading some of the good people on here
    and get a much better picture of what they were supposed to
    be sent in for sabotage and subversion operations
    against - whom?

    A pious Middle Eastern grandmother who's never going out of her village in her life ???
    A threat to a major American city -? Hardly.


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    • Originally posted by al-arab View Post
      Then I do not see the point of this thread Osho if you agree.

      All I said is well-known. You should visit the Iraq/Arab world for clarification of how Muharram is celebrated among Sunnis.

      You should visit Karbala during Ashura. You would quickly yourself say that self-harm and other Un-Islamic things that are done that day by some Shia's is not right.

      And why do you support secularism?
      The Sunnis I see don't commemorate Ashura except fasting or distribution of Sweets whichyou can also see here on this forums. Hence this thread.

      I am for secularism because it beautifully separates state and mosque, religion and politics. Islam is also just a religion and has nothing to do with politics, economics, culture or other aspects of life. This way both religion and state have there due place. Both don't suffer. Clergymen cant run state while politicians cant run mosque.

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      • Ya we distribute pulao, sharbat and sweets on ashura. Whats wrong in it?

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        • Originally posted by osho View Post
          The Sunnis I see don't commemorate Ashura except fasting or distribution of Sweets whichyou can also see here on this forums. Hence this thread.

          I am for secularism because it beautifully separates state and mosque, religion and politics. Islam is also just a religion and has nothing to do with politics, economics, culture or other aspects of life. This way both religion and state have there due place. Both don't suffer. Clergymen cant run state while politicians cant run mosque.
          Who says politicians can run states?

          Over statement of the century!

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          • Originally posted by Luffy View Post
            Ya we distribute pulao, sharbat and sweets on ashura. Whats wrong in it?
            Nothing wrong but its not mourning. My basic point was that why Sunnis don't mourn like Shias on the common religious figure of Imam Hussain.

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            • Originally posted by Alchemist View Post
              Who says politicians can run states?

              Over statement of the century!
              There are good and bad politicians but we have great statesmen and political leaders especially in G8 or G20 countries. They can run state but not mosque or church. This is secularism. As Khushal Baba says

              Sheikh ba munz roja krhi za ba dakey pyaley akhlam
              Har sarhey paida dey khpal khpal kar lara kana

              Taliban or Mullas are for mosque(religion) while Karzai, Fahim, Abdullah, Obama Gandhi , Benazir Bhutto, and Nelson Mandela are for state(politics)

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              • Originally posted by osho View Post
                Nothing wrong but its not mourning. My basic point was that why Sunnis don't mourn like Shias on the common religious figure of Imam Hussain.

                What is your next question ....

                Why don't sunnis let their mothers,sisters,daughters prostitute like the shia let their making mut'ah with numerous man on a single day,because you will get a higher rank in your belief.

                Osho this is to you : Such people , like you we box them and box them and they lay on ground we hit their face further with our kicks until our shoes are full of blood.And we enjoy this.

                All praise due to Allah,and May Allah bestow mercy and blessing on his beloved messenger and his family,and may Allah have mercy on his companions and on this ummah.

                we are not shia and we will be never like them , they are closer to the jews than to islam.

                Who are the shia'a? - YouTube[/URL]
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                • Enjoy brother. Psychopaths enjoy torturing others physically or imaginatively. This is sadism and masochism. Taliban enjoy tortures as they do with innocent people and they did with Dr Najib and his brother. Bloodshed is your religion, terror is your norm. I don't remember I have ever talked to you in this language or ever addressed you personally or by name but it speaks of your personality.

                  Please be tolerant. This world is very vast and people have different opinions depending on their education and exposure. Oppose and criticize with decency.If you want to change others then do it wisely. Prophet talked to his opponents in a nice way. Quran enjoins to be wise and respectful while propagating Islam.

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                  • osho, the traditional Sunni view is actually pretty divergent on the issue.

                    - Denial: Some Sunnis deny that Yazid ever ordered the deaths of Hussain and his family. It is argued, without any evidence of course, that they were the "Shias themselves" who killed Hussain for their own benefit. Even though that argument doesn't make any sense whatsoever, it provides them with comfort. Another argument is that Obaidullah acted on his own and he was never ordered to kill Hussain. Now from what I know, Obaidullah was never punished by Yazid so that argument itself is flawed, unless, of course if I'm mistaken.

                    - The second school condemns Yazid openly and considers him an apostate. They Sunnis stop at condemning Muayiya I or Usman, Yazid's clan-members, but they are on board with the traditional Shias in vilifying Yazid.

                    - The third school says that it was a Jewish conspiracy.
                    "If a nation expects to be ignorant and free, in a state of civilization, it expects what never was and never will be".

                    "Knowledge will forever govern ignorance; and a people who mean to be their own governors must arm themselves with the power which knowledge gives".

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                    • I remember in 7th class our islamiyat said to us that shia is most dangerous creature on earth. One student asked why. The teacher went to black board and wrote word shia in urdu. He said word shia is compound of four alphabetes in which
                      "sheen" stands for shaitan
                      "yay" stands for yahudi
                      "aain" stands for esai (christian)
                      "hay" stands for hindu

                      He said shias are more dangerous than jews, christian or hindus, they are shaitans. I did'nt know about beliefs of shias at that time. But that teacher was corrupting our raw minds with hate.

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                      • Originally posted by Luffy View Post
                        I remember in 7th class our islamiyat said to us that shia is most dangerous creature on earth. One student asked why. The teacher went to black board and wrote word shia in urdu. He said word shia is compound of four alphabetes in which
                        "sheen" stands for shaitan
                        "yay" stands for yahudi
                        "aain" stands for esai (christian)
                        "hay" stands for hindu

                        He said shias are more dangerous than jews, christian or hindus, they are shaitans. I did'nt know about beliefs of shias at that time. But that teacher was corrupting our raw minds with hate.

                        Hahahahahaha!

                        Luffy, that's hilarious!
                        "If a nation expects to be ignorant and free, in a state of civilization, it expects what never was and never will be".

                        "Knowledge will forever govern ignorance; and a people who mean to be their own governors must arm themselves with the power which knowledge gives".

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                        • Originally posted by Luffy View Post
                          I remember in 7th class our islamiyat said to us that shia is most dangerous creature on earth. One student asked why. The teacher went to black board and wrote word shia in urdu. He said word shia is compound of four alphabetes in which
                          "sheen" stands for shaitan
                          "yay" stands for yahudi
                          "aain" stands for esai (christian)
                          "hay" stands for hindu

                          He said shias are more dangerous than jews, christian or hindus, they are shaitans. I did'nt know about beliefs of shias at that time. But that teacher was corrupting our raw minds with hate.
                          lolllll

                          I had same experience. We were told that Shia eat babies. They also use human blood during Ashura in their food so we should stay away from them. Incredibly stupid things.

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                          • Behind all such non sense is also politics as Salafi Saudi never want a strong Shia Iran or a Shia Bahrain or Shia dominant Iraq

                            Today I read a book on Shia Salat(prayers) and its so much similar to that of Sunnis. They have the same cardinal beliefs and the almost the same modes of worship.Then I cant understand such an intense hatred between Shias and Sunnis.

                            Its also my observation that Shias are never terrorist or violent extremists. You wont find a Shia Al-Qa'ida or Shia Taliban.

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                            • Originally posted by osho View Post
                              Enjoy brother. Psychopaths enjoy torturing others physically or imaginatively. This is sadism and masochism. Taliban enjoy tortures as they do with innocent people and they did with Dr Najib and his brother. Bloodshed is your religion, terror is your norm. I don't remember I have ever talked to you in this language or ever addressed you personally or by name but it speaks of your personality.

                              Please be tolerant. This world is very vast and people have different opinions depending on their education and exposure. Oppose and criticize with decency.If you want to change others then do it wisely. Prophet talked to his opponents in a nice way. Quran enjoins to be wise and respectful while propagating Islam.

                              Such Munafiqun and mockerers as you we show them tolerant by the blade,and with our fists and kicks ( Kungfu = Solution for such people like you).

                              People may have different opinion and understanding,and we can discuss certain issues,but when someone accuses me or downgrades me or makes any accusations that are on the contrary and already discussed and explained and tries to enflame conflicts such a people deserve such tolerant as you can read in the beginning of my post.


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                              • [QUOTE=osho;555068]Behind all such non sense is also politics as Salafi Saudi never want a strong Shia Iran or a Shia Bahrain or Shia dominant Iraq

                                Today I read a book on Shia Salat(prayers) and its so much similar to that of Sunnis. They have the same cardinal beliefs and the almost the same modes of worship.Then I cant understand such an intense hatred between Shias and Sunnis.

                                Its also my observation that Shias are never terrorist or violent extremists. You wont find a Shia Al-Qa'ida or Shia Taliban.[/QUOTE]

                                [CNN] Iraq: Shia Militia uses Mosque as torture chamber - YouTube

                                Don't go to far with your accusations.
                                I hope you end in the torture chambers of shia militia.


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