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  • There may be some individual Shia terrorists or some groups but over all Shia ideology does not support terrorism and violent religious extremism.Hizbullah is the name of a movement and is a political party not a terrorist group. Over all shias are peace loving people and in spite of so much hatred from Sunnis they have never reacted in a violent terrorist manner.

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    • Originally posted by osho View Post
      There may be some individual Shia terrorists or some groups but over all Shia ideology does not support terrorism and violent religious extremism.Hizbullah is the name of a movement and is a political party not a terrorist group. Over all shias are peace loving people and in spite of so much hatred from Sunnis they have never reacted in a violent terrorist manner.

      you stil continue to write even after what you said,wasn't the disgrace enough that you suffered above.

      this videos proof the peace and harmony of shias toward other people.

      High achievement always takes place in the framework of high expectation.

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      • Originally posted by osho View Post
        Behind all such non sense is also politics as Salafi Saudi never want a strong Shia Iran or a Shia Bahrain or Shia dominant Iraq

        Today I read a book on Shia Salat(prayers) and its so much similar to that of Sunnis. They have the same cardinal beliefs and the almost the same modes of worship.Then I cant understand such an intense hatred between Shias and Sunnis.

        Its also my observation that Shias are never terrorist or violent extremists. You wont find a Shia Al-Qa'ida or Shia Taliban.
        How dare you say such nonsense your liar!

        Iranian agents like you should be dealt with very harshly and I can assure they are being just that in SUNNI Iraq!

        I will not try to educate you yet again like I did before about Muharram among Sunnis but my advice to you is not to spread lias. This is a sensitive theme especially for us Sunni Iraqi Arabs and also Sunni Kurds.

        Your kind only deserve one thing for being traitors and criminals.

        I will just stop know before I say something more worse about your lias but brother Afghanistan2010 already gave you enough of prove of your lias and I am certain that you know all this very well but you try to potray Sunnis as devils and Shia's as saints.

        You do not know what you talk about when it comes to Hezbollah. They are a political AND religious organization.

        They tried to gain influence among our Sunni Syrian brother's but their puppet Assad and all their supporters will be dealt with harshly when they will be gone, Insha'Allah.

        Insha'allah Almighty Allah will also make the same happen for the Iraqi puppet government. People already are fighting against them with support from our Arab neighbours and brothers and the whole Ummah.

        Several of my family members from my mother's side escaped Al-Basrah because of the apostate Mehdi Army. Many people I know had family members killed by them.

        They are cowards and kissed the feet of the invadors in Iraq. The glorious insurgency is only peformed by us Sunni's because we refuse to be slaves by the americans.

        You are slaves of the americans and iranians.

        But believe me it will not last long!

        You traitors and criminals will get this punishment!

        http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=a436da31d1

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        • I remember Jaish Abu Bakr Saddiq (rad) ( Army of Jaish Abu Bakr Saddiq) shooting two or three agents of the shia interior ministery during live conversation on street and during filming.

          pretty graphic but they did what they deserved for their crimes done to the civilian population.

          the video from liveleak is part of a bigger release called Just Punishment by Ansar Al Sunnah.
          High achievement always takes place in the framework of high expectation.

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          • Originally posted by Afghanistan2010 View Post
            I remember Jaish Abu Bakr Saddiq (rad) ( Army of Jaish Abu Bakr Saddiq) shooting two or three agents of the shia interior ministery during live conversation on street and during filming.

            pretty graphic but they did what they deserved for their crimes done to the civilian population.

            the video from liveleak is part of a bigger release called Just Punishment by Ansar Al Sunnah.
            I know brother.

            This is the clip you are talking about I believe.

            http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=362_1206067532

            I feel no remorse for those Un-Islamic war criminals and traitors for the state. They are openly admitting to being puppets of the corrup Iraqi regime and puppets of Iran and america.

            I have seen worse things in real life than that video. Commited by Shia criminals and sects. This is nothing in comparison. I have seen people being paralyzed because of the beating they got when apprehended just because they were Sunni's.

            The worst part is that they are also Iraqis but they are being traitors for their country. In every country in the world being traitor has only meant one thing. Hard punishments and death in time of war.

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            • Originally posted by al-arab View Post
              I know brother.

              This is the clip you are talking about I believe.

              http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=362_1206067532

              I feel no remorse for those Un-Islamic war criminals and traitors for the state. They are openly admitting to being puppets of the corrup Iraqi regime and puppets of Iran and america.

              I have seen worse things in real life than that video. Commited by Shia criminals and sects. This is nothing in comparison. I have seen people being paralyzed because of the beating they got when apprehended just because they were Sunni's.

              The worst part is that they are also Iraqis but they are being traitors for their country. In every country in the world being traitor has only meant one thing. Hard punishments and death in time of war.
              It is similar to this whenever i find it again i will share it with you,they are sitting with them (undercover) ,the agents are enjoying tea when firing brokes out.
              High achievement always takes place in the framework of high expectation.

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              • Originally posted by Afghanistan2010 View Post
                It is similar to this whenever i find it again i will share it with you,they are sitting with them (undercover) ,the agents are enjoying tea when firing brokes out.
                Thank you brother.

                Maybe I have seen this before but mostly I saw all this from news (the clips that are found on the internet are being shown in Arab programs to tell the truth) Only in the West i hear that people know nothing about Shia killings. They are always talking about us Sunnis like terrorits when we in fact are defending our people and country from secterian violence, envy and hatred and occupation.

                I am also only talking about the criminal shia's who are killing civilians for fun and betraying the country and siding with the americans and iranians.

                Those shia criminals are also getting help from americans who turn the blind eye to their secterian killings.

                When I was back home in Baghdad in late November there were two Imams in the Abu Hanifah (ra) Mosque, one from our neighbours Saudi Arabia and the other from another neigbhour Syria who told that a lot of people in Saudi Arabia and the Gulf are willing to help us Sunnis and never allow a majority/ruled by Shia's Iraq. Next week they started to renovate two Sunni Mosques in Baghdad that were damaged by Shia militias.

                Shia's are only getting help from Iran. They will never succeed with their plan of making Iraq, Lebanon, Syria, Yemen (half of Yemen is Shia) and Bahrain to satelite states of Iran.

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                • Originally posted by al-arab View Post
                  Thank you brother.

                  Maybe I have seen this before but mostly I saw all this from news (the clips that are found on the internet are being shown in Arab programs to tell the truth) Only in the West i hear that people know nothing about Shia killings. They are always talking about us Sunnis like terrorits when we in fact are defending our people and country from secterian violence, envy and hatred and occupation.

                  I am also only talking about the criminal shia's who are killing civilians for fun and betraying the country and siding with the americans and iranians.

                  Those shia criminals are also getting help from americans who turn the blind eye to their secterian killings.

                  When I was back home in Baghdad in late November there were two Imams in the Abu Hanifah (ra) Mosque, one from our neighbours Saudi Arabia and the other from another neigbhour Syria who told that a lot of people in Saudi Arabia and the Gulf are willing to help us Sunnis and never allow a majority/ruled by Shia's Iraq. Next week they started to renovate two Sunni Mosques in Baghdad that were damaged by Shia militias.

                  Shia's are only getting help from Iran. They will never succeed with their plan of making Iraq, Lebanon, Syria, Yemen (half of Yemen is Shia) and Bahrain to satelite states of Iran.
                  InshaAllah the people of Sunnah are taking care about them...now when the americans left.
                  High achievement always takes place in the framework of high expectation.

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                  • Originally posted by Afghanistan2010 View Post
                    InshaAllah the people of Sunnah are taking care about them...now when the americans left.
                    Alhamdulillah, I already see things going in the right direction step by step. People are turning to Islam even more and are rejecting american and iranian agents. Shia extremists are doomed already because of their un-Islamic behaviour and crimes against humanity.

                    Iraq is still 60 percent Sunni (Sunni are 40-45 percent while Kurds are 15-20 percent). The date of Sunni only being 45 percent is wrong. Even Iranian agents have said so openly and Iranian figures in Iran.

                    Where is this Osho?

                    Will he avoid my questions like when I gave him an explanation about Muharram among Sunnis? Where is he?

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                    • Ina kaidash Shaytana kana daifaa....remember brother.
                      The Strategy of the Satan is weak.
                      High achievement always takes place in the framework of high expectation.

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                      • It means half of the population in Iraq, Shias are traitors?

                        This is very strange that USA make Iran an enemy. The democratic Iran suit USA more than the Salafi extremists dictators in Saudi and other Arab countries. These people are the real enemies of USA, Afghanistan, Pakistan and the whole world. Taliban are their production.

                        The problem is Israel . Iran is the enemy of Israel while USA is the friennd of Israel. Arabs have left Palestinians but the Shia Iran is defending them.

                        Another convergence of the interests of USA and Iran is their common opposition to Taliban. But the divergence on Israel create problems for the bilateral relations. I don't see any other problem between Iran and the west.

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                        • Originally posted by osho View Post
                          It means half of the population in Iraq, Shias are traitors?

                          This is very strange that USA make Iran an enemy. The democratic Iran suit USA more than the Salafi extremists dictators in Saudi and other Arab countries. These people are the real enemies of USA, Afghanistan, Pakistan and the whole world. Taliban are their production.

                          The problem is Israel . Iran is the enemy of Israel while USA is the friennd of Israel. Arabs have left Palestinians but the Shia Iran is defending them.

                          Another convergence of the interests of USA and Iran is their common opposition to Taliban. But the divergence on Israel create problems for the bilateral relations. I don't see any other problem between Iran and the west.

                          In my observation Pakistani Shiites mostly mourn Muharram just to be "different." They are not really religious, especially the secular Shiites who love to declare this day. The point is they want to declare an imagined and hyped up animosity against Sunnis.


                          First things are first.

                          Sayyidina Hussein (ra) is a martyr for Islam, Sunni Islam.

                          The problem with you Osho, is that on one hand you are pretending to champion Sayyidina Hussein (ra), and indirectly state that he was not a representative of Sunni Islam. On this you are wrong.

                          So on one hand you are championing his defiance of tyranny, but then you are supporting foreign wars of aggression in Afghanistan, Iraq, and throughout. Contradiction I dare say?


                          So, in reality, what you are doing is trying to stir up something that does not concern Sunni Muslims. All Sunni Muslims respect Sayyidina Hussein(ra) and his martyrdom. Sunni Muslims do not believe in mourning individuals for 1400 years. Thats the difference.


                          Let me remind you, that Sayyidina Hussein (ra) was not a Shiite Muslim by the way, and this last point should recycle in your mind over and over. Nor was Sayyidina Ali(ra).

                          Let me also remind you that the people who started beating themselves at first were the ones who betrayed Sayyidina Hussein(ra) and abandoned him.

                          Yes, a significant number of the first Shiites were actually traitors to the person they claim to glorify.


                          In my opinion, this is called false glorification, and in fact it is a direct insult on the Prophet(pbuh) and his family.

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                          • Praying on fire...
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                            • Again we have Muharram and it seems the exclusive show of Shias while Sunnis are not at all bothered that they also may participate in the mourning on the greatest tragedy of the history of islam, the martyrdom of Imam Hussain in Karbala by the hands of the devil and embodiment of evil Yazeed.

                              Even I found some Sunnis who defend Yazeed. Some call it the battle for power, some term it the battle between two princes. Some call yazeed as Tabiyee and being the son of a Sahabi a venerable person and so on.

                              I wonder why and how the propaganda os Salafis and Wahabis is this much strong and effective that it ousted the love of Imam Hussain from the hearts of Muslims.

                              Few decades back Sunnis used to commemorate equally the days of Muharram but now they just call it Ashura not because of the tragedy of Karbala, observe fast and thats all!

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                              • scolding muslims for wearing hijab in one thread, now berating sunnis for their views on muharam. what the.

                                There are people today who think that admitting God’s absolute greatness decreases the value and importance of humans in the creation, as if God and mankind are rivals competing in greatness and power. Meanwhile I feel that whenever our perception of God’s greatness increases, with it we become greater, because we are the creation of a great God.

                                Sayyid Qutb

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