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  • #121
    No the hadith refers to a situation of fornication, read it again.


    "Musaykah, a slave-girl of some Ansari, came and said: My master forces me to commit fornication. Thereupon the following verse was revealed: "But force not your maids to prostitution (when they desire chastity). (24:33)" (Translation of Sunan Abu Dawud, Divorce (Kitab Al-Talaq), Book 12, Number 2304)"
    I understand you're of lesser intellect so it may take awhile for things to sink in. I made the font much bigger for you to make it less challenging for your frail mind.
    [QUOTE=Afghanistan2010;658085][B]He is no different [COLOR="Red"]than us[/COLOR][/B],[B]he[COLOR="Red"] blindly believes [/COLOR]in the words [COLOR="Red"]of other men[/COLOR][/B],:[/QUOTE]

    2010 Admitting he's a blind believer not in God, but what other men says.

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    • #122
      Originally posted by Dreamer View Post
      just explain the allowance for sexual relations with slaves and why they are even denied the dignity of a marriage when Islam is so about chastity and family values
      Who said they are?

      24:32 And marry such of you as are solitary and the pious of your slaves and maid-servants. If they be poor, Allah will enrich them of His bounty. Allah is of ample means, Aware.

      Your arguments are rather clumsy, inaccurate and logically lacking.
      [QUOTE=Afghanistan2010;658085][B]He is no different [COLOR="Red"]than us[/COLOR][/B],[B]he[COLOR="Red"] blindly believes [/COLOR]in the words [COLOR="Red"]of other men[/COLOR][/B],:[/QUOTE]

      2010 Admitting he's a blind believer not in God, but what other men says.

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      • #123
        Originally posted by RevolutionThroughReason View Post
        Who said they are?




        Your arguments are rather clumsy, inaccurate and logically lacking.
        For the allowance of relations with slaves... there is an oft repeated verse... "and those whom your right hands possess" please reflect on this... this is in addition to wives... so clearly they are not wives as they would have been covered by this but the dispensation states in addition to wives (in the context of those whom your allowed to have relations with) "and those whom your right hands possess"
        Frater aliquis in fide nec fratrem humanitatis


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        • #124
          Originally posted by RevolutionThroughReason View Post



          Your arguments are rather clumsy, inaccurate and logically lacking.
          funny... I was thinking the exact same of you
          Frater aliquis in fide nec fratrem humanitatis


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          • #125
            except I am right and have demonstrated so evidentially.You were merely thinking it as a defense mechanism.
            Last edited by RevolutionThroughReason; 03-14-2014, 07:15 AM.
            [QUOTE=Afghanistan2010;658085][B]He is no different [COLOR="Red"]than us[/COLOR][/B],[B]he[COLOR="Red"] blindly believes [/COLOR]in the words [COLOR="Red"]of other men[/COLOR][/B],:[/QUOTE]

            2010 Admitting he's a blind believer not in God, but what other men says.

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            • #126
              Originally posted by Dreamer View Post
              For the allowance of relations with slaves... there is an oft repeated verse... "and those whom your right hands possess" please reflect on this..."


              I know the verse, in Islam we take ALL the relevant verses into account not just cherry pick one or two.

              As you have neglected this one in relation to the other one.

              24:32 And marry such of you as are solitary and the pious of your slaves and maid-servants. If they be poor, Allah will enrich them of His bounty. Allah is of ample means, Aware.
              [QUOTE=Afghanistan2010;658085][B]He is no different [COLOR="Red"]than us[/COLOR][/B],[B]he[COLOR="Red"] blindly believes [/COLOR]in the words [COLOR="Red"]of other men[/COLOR][/B],:[/QUOTE]

              2010 Admitting he's a blind believer not in God, but what other men says.

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              • #127
                dude... it says it again and again.. it is a well often repeated term... please look it up and then talk
                Frater aliquis in fide nec fratrem humanitatis


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                • #128
                  Ma malakat aymanukum ... this is the arabic term enjoy
                  Frater aliquis in fide nec fratrem humanitatis


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                  • #129
                    It says it again and again ....and .....that doesn't change that there's a command to marry your slaves in the Qur'an. Which means your argument is null.
                    [QUOTE=Afghanistan2010;658085][B]He is no different [COLOR="Red"]than us[/COLOR][/B],[B]he[COLOR="Red"] blindly believes [/COLOR]in the words [COLOR="Red"]of other men[/COLOR][/B],:[/QUOTE]

                    2010 Admitting he's a blind believer not in God, but what other men says.

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                    • #130
                      Originally posted by Dreamer View Post
                      Ma malakat aymanukum ... this is the arabic term enjoy
                      Dreamer, RTR is dum camel ****, he is the one who called all women who marry outside theire ethnicity *****s and traitors, when in facts his own Yemeni mother marriad a Pashtun lol.

                      Logic and intellect is not so strong with him, he enjoys trolling, becuase that is what he is good at.

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                      • #131
                        Originally posted by Dreamer View Post
                        Ma malakat aymanukum ... this is the arabic term enjoy
                        that just means what your right hand possesses. It has nothing to do with the stipulations

                        aymankum (your right hands) ma (what) malakat(past participle of malakah)
                        Last edited by RevolutionThroughReason; 03-14-2014, 07:28 AM.
                        [QUOTE=Afghanistan2010;658085][B]He is no different [COLOR="Red"]than us[/COLOR][/B],[B]he[COLOR="Red"] blindly believes [/COLOR]in the words [COLOR="Red"]of other men[/COLOR][/B],:[/QUOTE]

                        2010 Admitting he's a blind believer not in God, but what other men says.

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                        • #132
                          Originally posted by Khostai View Post
                          Dreamer, RTR is dum camel ****, he is the one who called all women who marry outside theire ethnicity *****s and traitors, when in facts his own Yemeni mother marriad a Pashtun lol.

                          Logic and intellect is not so strong with him, he enjoys trolling, becuase that is what he is good at.
                          1.) What does that have to do with the thread material
                          2.) Where did I say women who marry outside of their ethnicity are "traitors"

                          can you quote me directly?
                          [QUOTE=Afghanistan2010;658085][B]He is no different [COLOR="Red"]than us[/COLOR][/B],[B]he[COLOR="Red"] blindly believes [/COLOR]in the words [COLOR="Red"]of other men[/COLOR][/B],:[/QUOTE]

                          2010 Admitting he's a blind believer not in God, but what other men says.

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                          • #133
                            Originally posted by RevolutionThroughReason View Post
                            that just means what your right hand possesses. It has nothing to do with the stipulations

                            aymankum (your right hands) ma (what) malakat(past participle of malakah)
                            please read the context of the verse where that term is used there are quite a few but all have the same context!
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                            • #134
                              I read the context, I know the verse that you're speaking about.

                              My response was that we take ALL the relevant verses into account, not just few verses and that's how we arrive at our conclusions in Islam. All you're doing is trying to rehash and recycle something you read on WikiIslam or some polemic site thinking you presented a new argument.

                              These arguments have been dealt with and have been debunked. That's why I say you're NOT very bright.
                              [QUOTE=Afghanistan2010;658085][B]He is no different [COLOR="Red"]than us[/COLOR][/B],[B]he[COLOR="Red"] blindly believes [/COLOR]in the words [COLOR="Red"]of other men[/COLOR][/B],:[/QUOTE]

                              2010 Admitting he's a blind believer not in God, but what other men says.

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                              • #135
                                Originally posted by RevolutionThroughReason View Post
                                I read the context, I know the verse that you're speaking about.

                                My response was that we take ALL the relevant verses into account, not just few verses and that's how we arrive at our conclusions in Islam. All you're doing is trying to rehash and recycle something you read on WikiIslam or some polemic site thinking you presented a new argument.

                                These arguments have been dealt with and have been debunked. That's why I say you're NOT very bright.
                                dude you assume a lot.. I can assure you I have not read said site.. a lot of what is on there is fairly stupid but they make a few good points... please enlighten us as to what that term means and why these people are not grouped together with marriage as in why are they differentiated from wives
                                Frater aliquis in fide nec fratrem humanitatis


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