Anti-Ahmadiyyah Thread

[MeemWawMeemNoon]

Please take the starter of this thread. He has called upon all Muslims and Allah as his guide to kill Qadiyanis whereever you find them.

Once Qadiyanis become as powerful as these Radicals, I am sure with History as my source Qadiyanis will too consider others as devients and declare them to be killed.

Its a Cycle of the Faithful. Once one feels convinced he is right, he with the power of God by his side will enforce these Ideals onto others, however if the others refuse his views, by the sword of might and virture he would be slaughtered.

That is History for you.

Kind Regards

Well, as per the dictates of the Quran, they do consider those who willfully do not accept Mirza Ghulam Ahmad as a prophet--after conducting unbiased research, or simply being biased--as kafirs.

[Millatpal Noorzai]

Maseed your argument is flawed because I can use that argument for anything

even for Wazirs,Maseeds,Pashtuns.

'A Wise man once said not to give Pashtuns condoms because that way they can produce a lot of babies and we can brainwash those babies into becoming terrorists'

How would you feel about that?

Could you also give me the reference of that "WISE MAN"?

[inqilab]

Foul Mouth of Mirza Ghulam Qadiani
(In light of his own Writings)

Mirza Ghulam Qadiani did not have any scruples at using profanities to try to ridicule, intimidate, or threaten people who did not accept his false claim to prophethood. Here are a few examples of his writings:

"My enemies are dirty swine and their women are more wretched than bitches (female dogs)."
(Roohany Khazaen, Vol. 14, P. 53; Najmul Huda, P. 10, 53)

"All Muslims regard my books with reverence and care and benefit from their sublime thoughts except those who are the offspring of prostitutes (*******s) [fatherless children]; God has put a seal upon their hearts and they do not accept me."
(Roohany Khazaen, Vol. 5, Page 547-548; Mirat-o-Kamalat-i-Islam, P. 547; Aeena-e-Kamalat Islam, P.547-548)

[Mirza Ghulam translated this Arabic word as "*******" [fatherless child] in Roohany Khazaen Vol. 11, P. 282)

"The one who has no belief in our ultimate victory is fond of becoming ******* [fatherless child] and he is bound to be product of fornication."
(Roohany Kazaen, Vol. 9, P. 31; Anwar ul Islam, P. 30)

"Are they prepared to swear? No, they'll never do so because they are liars and are derooting the corpse of falsehood like dogs."
(Supplement to Anjam-e-Atham, P. 25; Roohany Khazaen, Vol. 11, P. 309)

His eulogy about Maulvi Saadullah Ludhianwi was:

"I look a sinful man among debauched who is more scoundrel and an execrated being like Satan... He who is called Saadullah by the ignorant is slanderer, wicked and a falsifier... You injured me, ******* [fatherless child]. I won't be truthful if you won't have a disgraceful death."
(Haqiqat-ul Wahi, P. 14-15; Roohany Khazaen, Vol. 22, P. 734-735)

"If Abdullah Athum is saved from death (as per Mirza's prophecy) and if all the world say the Christian was correct, then the ******* [fatherless child] will not follow the right path."
(Roohany Khazaen, Vol. 9, P. 32)

"Abdul Haq is not content with our victories. He is itching to become a ******* [fatherless child]."
(Anwar-ul-Islam, P. 30)

"There is nothing more foul than a pig in the world. But the ulema who oppose me are more foul than pigs."
(Anjam-i-Atham, P. 21)

"You have inflicted pain on me with your foulness. You are not truthful. I pray that you die in shame, you son of a harlot."
(Anjam-i-Atham, P. 288)

"This ******* [fatherless child] of a doctor does not thread the straight path."
(Anwar-ul-Islam, P. 30)

He called Shaikhul Islam Saanaullah of Amristar:
"O, the son of wind, o traitor..."
(Ijaz-i-Ahmadi, P. 43/77)

The puzzling thing is that he himself wrote:

"I have never abused anyone."
(Moahiburahman, P. 18)

"He is worst who is abusive, his heart is as filthy as Latrine."
(Sar-e-Sumain, P. 74)

"Abuses and rebukes are not the acts of a believer and a believer can not be a curser."
(Azalat-ul-Auham, P. 66)

Is this how a Prophet or even a rightly guided individual would speak

[inqilab]

Some words are too explicit to even be shown on the forum.

This is their feces vomiting false prophet.

Alhumdulillah. He died a horrible death. And inshallah burn in hellfire forever.

[inqilab]

He died such in a horrible way. because ahmad and and muslim scholar abdul haq ghaznavi prayed mubahala. Mubahala is a prayer for Allah to curse the liar.

Ahmad died a horrible death. Disgraced and shameless dog. He died 9 years before muslim scholar abdul haq.

[inqilab]

Inqilab what proof do you have he said that?

Uhh the sources are given right after the quote? lol

[MeemWawMeemNoon]

Inqilab, how has Ahmadiyyat affected your life?

[inqilab]

what does a death have to do with someone being good or not?

Depends on how they died. And what they died upon.

Ghulam died after doing the muhabala. And he did not just die a regular death. But a dishonorable one. Dying upon kufr and vomiting his own feces. Died in disgrace.

[MeemWawMeemNoon]

^What is your proof? Bring it forward.

[inqilab]

Bashir Ahmad, the son of Mirza Ghulam, wrote in his biography:

"My mother informed me that 'the first attack of looseness of bowels upon the Promised Messiah occurred when he was at his dining room table. Later, I started pressing his legs and he lay in comfort and slept and soon I too slept. After a short while, he again felt the call of nature and he used the bathroom a couple of times without awakening me, After this he felt very weak; he shook me up and laid down on my bed. I recommenced pressing. In a few minutes he told me to go to bed but I refused and continued to press. Once again he had an urge and, being too weak to go to the lavatory, I made arrangement for him close to the bed. He sat down and relieved himself. Next, he laid himself back on my bed and I started pressing again. His weakness grew intense; he had another motion, accompanied this time by vomiting. This paralyzed him so much that when trying to lay back on the bed, he fell on his back and hit his head on the bed post. His condition alarmed me...'."

(Roohany Khazaen, Vol. 1, P. 11-12; Sirat-ul-Mehdi, P.109)

[inqilab]

Mirza Ghulam's father in law, Mir Nasir Nawab, recorded in his autobiography:

"The night his holiness fell ill, I was sleeping in my room. When his illness grew severe, they woke me up. I went over to his holiness and found him in great pain. He addressed me saying: 'I have been stricken with cholera.' After this, he did not utter a single intelligible and coherent word till he died on Monday, after ten O'clock in the morning."

(Hayat-i-Nasir, P. 14)

[inqilab]

Mirza Ghulam used to say that cholera or plague is the sign of Allah's wrath on mankind for their wrong doing. It is fitting that his last words were the admission that he had been stricken with the disease he was so fearful of. The witnesses present at his bed side recorded:

"Huzoor (Mirza Ghulam) could not talk two hours before death. Dr. Mirza Yaqoob Baig and Dr. Syed Mohammad Hussei Shah were the attending physicians. Huzoor asked for paper and wrote on it: 'I have too much dryness. I can't talk.' and some other words which could not be read." (Al-Fazl, Vol. 25, No. 274, November 24, 1937)

"As his condition became precarious, we stayed by him and continued treatment, but his pulse stopped by 10:15 A.M., on the 26th May, 1908 he breathed his last."(Al-Hakam, Mary 28, 1908)

[MeemWawMeemNoon]

Inqilab, do you know how our beloved (saw) died?

[MeemWawMeemNoon]

Make sure that your own curse does not hit you back in the face.

You don't want to have a dialogue or read what I write, of course you would I can't defend anything.

[inqilab]

The irony of ghulam was:

"If what I have said does not happen exactly, I am prepared for every punishment. My face should be blackened and I should be hanged. I swear by the Mighty Allah that what I have said will happen. It must happen. It is possible that the earth may be changed for another earth and the sky may be replaced by another sky, but it is not possible for God's word to change -- prepare for me a cross if my falsehood is exposed and curse me more than the Satans and the evil persons are cursed."
(Roohany Khazaen, Vol. 6, P. 293; Jang-i-Maqaddas, P. 188)

Allah did indeed curse him.