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  • #46
    I think its not important... You shia lover should go to some imam bargah and start reading blasphemous literature against sahaba e kiraam and ummahat ul mumineen.
    This will give peace to your soul. and also beat yourself with knives and chains... we want to see your blood coming out of your body

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    • #47
      Please quote the book of Iqbal from where these verses are taken. I cant imagine who was against the tradition of the mourning of millions of Shias for so many centuries. He is very popular in Iran so how can he write such poetry. I have doubts that these are not his verses.

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      • #48
        Originally posted by DaZahroJaam. View Post
        muharram and ramazan are sacred to all muslims.
        Originally posted by emkhan View Post
        10th of Muharram is sacred since Hazrat Musa a.s
        There are also other great historical events that are linked to Muharram and the Day of Ashura.

        ... and they are suppose to be peaceful months...

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        • #49
          Brother graveyardOE and Jamaludeen,

          may Allah have mercy on you both and make us inshaAllah inshaAllah neighbours in Jannah,verily you have spoken the truth and hit the apostate and the renegade one on his face.

          verily i would have kissed you both on your head for your nice words....mashaAllah

          your brother in islam.
          High achievement always takes place in the framework of high expectation.

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          • #50
            fre****a and emkhar...

            you two buffoons should carry out your cyber bullying somewhere else...


            osho,

            Most "sunnis" are "sunnis" because their father and mother is "sunni". So when they ask their parents "Dad, why do shias mourn during muharam?" Daddy says "Because they feel guilty for killing the grandson of the prophet".
            (I know this because my own father said so ...but don't tell my mom, she is shia.)

            In any case...Some of them say "Yazid radiallahu anhu and Mawiya radiallahu anhu". They hold those two in high esteem.

            Even more ridiculous in their claim of Hanafisim is that Hanafi was from Kufa and studied under Mohammad ul Baqir and Jaffar al Sadiq (grandsons of the prophet pbuh)....shia imams. Kufa was a city that was built by Umar ibn Khattab...yet they are convinced that the majority were shia ...when shias are those who believe that Ali, karimallahu wajhu, was the first in line of succession and do not accept Abu Bakr (ra) and Umar ibn khattab (ra) as true successors.

            So now they are convinced that Yazid's army was actually shia of Hussain? When in fact the army of faction of Yazid was trying to avenge the death of Uthman ...by cutting off the water for the followers of Hussain as Talha and Zubair had done to Uthman.

            If sunnis were to recognize the real meaning behind this event, their perception of the destiny of muslims would change. Such sectarianism exists as a projection of the schisms of the psychology of the ummah in it's totality. Sunnis are under rating the significance of the even the point of utter ignorance and shias are compensating for that...and so neither is totally right or totally wrong.

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            • #51
              Originally posted by Alchemist View Post
              fre****a and emkhar...

              you two buffoons should carry out your cyber bullying somewhere else...


              osho,

              Most "sunnis" are "sunnis" because their father and mother is "sunni". So when they ask their parents "Dad, why do shias mourn during muharam?" Daddy says "Because they feel guilty for killing the grandson of the prophet".
              (I know this because my own father said so ...but don't tell my mom, she is shia.)

              In any case...Some of them say "Yazid radiallahu anhu and Mawiya radiallahu anhu". They hold those two in high esteem.

              Even more ridiculous in their claim of Hanafisim is that Hanafi was from Kufa and studied under Mohammad ul Baqir and Jaffar al Sadiq (grandsons of the prophet pbuh)....shia imams. Kufa was a city that was built by Umar ibn Khattab...yet they are convinced that the majority were shia ...when shias are those who believe that Ali, karimallahu wajhu, was the first in line of succession and do not accept Abu Bakr (ra) and Umar ibn khattab (ra) as true successors.

              So now they are convinced that Yazid's army was actually shia of Hussain? When in fact the army of faction of Yazid was trying to avenge the death of Uthman ...by cutting off the water for the followers of Hussain as Talha and Zubair had done to Uthman.

              If sunnis were to recognize the real meaning behind this event, their perception of the destiny of muslims would change. Such sectarianism exists as a projection of the schisms of the psychology of the ummah in it's totality. Sunnis are under rating the significance of the even the point of utter ignorance and shias are compensating for that...and so neither is totally right or totally wrong.
              Open statement by you that you are Shia Raafidhi ?
              High achievement always takes place in the framework of high expectation.

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              • #52
                Originally posted by Afghanistan2010 View Post
                Open statement by you that you are Shia Raafidhi ?

                You were the one who praised Yazid and Ma'wiya and accept then as legitimate khalifa right?

                You are not hannafi, just like scimitar is not mu'tazali.

                You guys wear those titles like little kids on the street wear soccer jersey's of their favourite teams. Doesn't mean your Roberto Carlos if you are wearing his jersey...

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                • #53
                  Only yum-e-ashura of moharam is sacred to sunni muslims, not just because hazrat imam hussain was martyred on that day...shias have wrong approach, what would one achieve by beating, torturing himself/herself...and if you visit their homes, plates of "ya ali" and "ya hussain" are on the wall. I mean they give them more status than prophets..

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                  • #54
                    Originally posted by Alchemist View Post
                    fre****a and emkhar...

                    you two buffoons should carry out your cyber bullying somewhere else...


                    osho,

                    Most "sunnis" are "sunnis" because their father and mother is "sunni". So when they ask their parents "Dad, why do shias mourn during muharam?" Daddy says "Because they feel guilty for killing the grandson of the prophet".
                    (I know this because my own father said so ...but don't tell my mom, she is shia.)

                    In any case...Some of them say "Yazid radiallahu anhu and Mawiya radiallahu anhu". They hold those two in high esteem.

                    Even more ridiculous in their claim of Hanafisim is that Hanafi was from Kufa and studied under Mohammad ul Baqir and Jaffar al Sadiq (grandsons of the prophet pbuh)....shia imams. Kufa was a city that was built by Umar ibn Khattab...yet they are convinced that the majority were shia ...when shias are those who believe that Ali, karimallahu wajhu, was the first in line of succession and do not accept Abu Bakr (ra) and Umar ibn khattab (ra) as true successors.

                    So now they are convinced that Yazid's army was actually shia of Hussain? When in fact the army of faction of Yazid was trying to avenge the death of Uthman ...by cutting off the water for the followers of Hussain as Talha and Zubair had done to Uthman.

                    If sunnis were to recognize the real meaning behind this event, their perception of the destiny of muslims would change. Such sectarianism exists as a projection of the schisms of the psychology of the ummah in it's totality. Sunnis are under rating the significance of the even the point of utter ignorance and shias are compensating for that...and so neither is totally right or totally wrong.
                    Brother do not try to disrespect us.
                    thats liek saying we are msulims becasue our parents were liek the atheists say.

                    so you are telling me these guys are better than Umar (r) or Abu Bakr(r)
                    Shia celebration of death of Aisha (raa) , cake and balloons -- psychotic hatred - YouTube
                    Sheikh Hassan Allahyari - It is obligatory to Expose Abu Bakr and Umar - YouTube
                    Shia scholar: Quran was changed by Uthman (i.e. Quran 33:33) [Eng/Arabic Subs] - YouTube
                    Angry omari refuted Umar and abu bakr(l.a) being destroyed on a daily basis - YouTube
                    Shia Scholar using foul language against Sahaba (ra) & Ahl-Sunnah [EngSubs] - YouTube


                    it is a fact that shias are trying to cause friction by trying to steal Ahle bayth for themselves and abuse Umar(r) Abu Bakr(r) and Aisha(r),they wish we sunnis will say something liek they say about these pious muslims towards Ali(r).We will never fall for this trap,we know very well that these do not and have never loved ahlel bayth but only using them for politics.

                    how about you tell us why shias have pictures of Ali(r) and almost worship him?

                    and why do they said that when Prophet (pbuh) went to heaven hussein (r) already sat there?

                    not just that now these misled people are calling ahlel sunnah bakri and omari.

                    why should i believe shia version of events of Karbala when they are saying that Aisha (r) poisoned Prophet Muhammad(pbuh),astaghfirullah.
                    Who killed the Messenger of Allah? - YouTube

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                    • #55
                      Alchemist is this historically accurate,do you believe this?
                      Omar killed lady Fatima, why Imam Ali did not kill him right there? - YouTube

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                      • #56
                        Alchemist and GOE, it's good to debate this..but.please do not start fighting...as that is what osho wants.

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                        • #57
                          Originally posted by Jamaludeen View Post
                          Alchemist and GOE, it's good to debate this..but.please do not start fighting...as that is what osho wants.
                          i do not want to debate i just want him to explain somethings to me as i see beating one's self bloody about someone having been killed 14 centuries ago is beyond me.

                          plus he made an accusation saying that we dont celeberate this day,and accused us of feeling guilty about it.

                          why should i feel guilty,the ones feeling guilty are th ones who are punishing them by beating themselves.

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                          • #58
                            There are extremists among both Shias and Sunnis. Those Shias who abuse Hazrat Ayesha or hazrat Umar etc then they do wrong . Those Sunnis who consider millions of Shia Muslims as infidels they are also wrong.

                            For me the differences between Shias and Sunnis are only political(in history) and jurisprudential. Political differences can be any where even within Sunnis or shias as Aurangzeb Alamgir a Sunni killed his Sunni brothers for power.

                            Jurisprudential differences can be even within Sunnis or Shias as the 4 schools of jurisprudence amongst Sunnis. Its interesting that the way Malikis offer prayers is very similar to that of Shias(no hands on chest).Imam Abu Hanifa was student of Imam Jafar Sadiq.

                            If we consider Shias as the fifth school of jurisprudence as Jafari along with Hanafi, Shafi, Hanbali and Maliki then a lot of hatred will go away with this. Nest step can be that Sunnis mourn Karbala like Shias.

                            The best friends of Shias among Sunnis are Hanafis while the worst enemies are Salafis and Slafism is now affecting Hanafis in this regard.

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                            • #59
                              Osho was a drug addicted,ill minded person,who raped women.
                              High achievement always takes place in the framework of high expectation.

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                              • #60
                                Originally posted by Luffy View Post
                                Only yum-e-ashura of moharam is sacred to sunni muslims, not just because hazrat imam hussain was martyred on that day...shias have wrong approach, what would one achieve by beating, torturing himself/herself...and if you visit their homes, plates of "ya ali" and "ya hussain" are on the wall. I mean they give them more status than prophets..
                                Yaum e Ashur should also be sacred to Sunni Muslims as it is to Shia Muslims because Imam Hussain was the grandson of the prophet of both Sunnis and Shias. Shias dont have wrong approach as mourning the cruel and inhuman murder of the family of the prophet is not a minor event. Sunnis should not let Shias to own the family of the prophet only for them exclusively.

                                What is wrong in saying Ya Ali or Ya Hussain? This is just to remember these two great personalities of Islam in one's home. Just by writing their names how they get greater status than prophets? They including Sunnis also write Ya Muhammad.

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