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Barakzai, why did God tell Muhammad to have several wives/concubines
The stories of each of his marriages are fascinating and in no way point to a sex starved ideologue. William Muir and countless orientalists in centuries prior did not even view these as deficiencies in character. Sauda for instance was a widow without looks, Hafsa was to forge stronger links to Omar (similarly Uthman would marry sequentially two daughters of the Prophet in sequence after one's passing for the same reasons), Maryam was an Egyptian leaders gift un requested, Aisha was suggested by Khawlah Bint Hakim, and so on and so forth.
As we said, just because you and Dumbeer are pervs doesn't mean all historical figures are! looool
and split the moon, but not free the slaves?
Seriously? Are you really this deficient mentally? Splitting the moon versus inculcating and changing the minds of men, most of who are not at all yet your followers with a single order? I bet Gibbons would joke its easier to do the former than the latter which once again, Meccans saw a split moon and still viewed as magic (meaning it still did not foment conversion). Even still we see the Quran saying:
It almost seems as if your rasulullah was just using Allah as an excuse to get away with doing whatever he wanted without getting questioned…
Nah, I genuinely am laughing. Here we have an alcoholic ex commie atheist who is inventing Pashtun leaders (next we will hear that Alexander was a Pashtun based on some monkey gibberish he finds somewhere that's been thoroughly been debunked) to "get away with doing whatever he wants" in creating Azaaaaad Retardedistan that could never incorporate a people according his perverted psychopathic vision of Islam. Thats what we have with him on the left hand and on the other hand we have a Quran that says:
Worship Allah and join none with Him in worship, and do good to parents, kinsfolk, orphans, Al-Masakin (the poor), the neighbour who is near of kin, the neighbour who is a stranger, the companion by your side, the wayfarer (you meet), and those (slaves) whom your right hands possess. Verily, Allah does not like such as are proud and boastful [Translation of the meanings of Quran 4:36 by Muhsin Khan]
The one is a dancing monkey that is trying to simultaneously claim descent from Ghurids, Genghis, Alexander, etc and the other makes total sense.
The stories of each of his marriages are fascinating and in no way point to a sex starved ideologue. William Muir and countless orientalists in centuries prior did not even view these as deficiencies in character. Sauda for instance was a widow without looks, Hafsa was to forge stronger links to Omar (similarly Uthman would marry sequentially two daughters of the Prophet in sequence after one's passing for the same reasons), Maryam was an Egyptian leaders gift un requested, Aisha was suggested by Khawlah Bint Hakim, and so on and so forth.
As we said, just because you and Dumbeer are pervs doesn't mean all historical figures are! looool
and split the moon, but not free the slaves?
Seriously? Are you really this deficient mentally? Splitting the moon versus inculcating and changing the minds of men, most of who are not at all yet your followers with a single order? I bet Gibbons would joke its easier to do the former than the latter which once again, Meccans saw a split moon and still viewed as magic (meaning it still did not foment conversion). Even still we see the Quran saying:
It is not righteousness that you turn your faces toward East or West; but it is righteousness . . . to spend of your substance . . . for the ransom of slaves. (2:177)
Never should a Believer kill a Believer; but (if it so happens) by mistake, (compensation is due): if one (so) kills a Believer, it is ordained that he should free a believing slave, and pay compensation to the deceased's family . . . For those who find this beyond their means, (is prescribed) a fast for two months running: by way of repentance to Allah. (4:92)
Allah will not call you to account for what is futile in your oaths, but will call you to account for your deliberate oaths: for expiation, feed ten indigent persons . . . or clothe them; or give a slave his freedom. If that is beyond your means, fast for three days. (5:89)
Alms are for the poor and the needy, and those employed to administer the (funds); . . . for those in bondage and in debt . . . (9:60)
But for those who divorce their wives . . . then wish to go back on the words they uttered, - (it is ordained that such a one) should free a slave before they touch each other: this you are admonished to perform . . . And if any has not (the wherewithal), he should fast for two months consecutively before they touch each other. But if any is unable to do so, he should feed sixty indigent ones. (58:3-4)
Verily We have created Man into toil and struggle. . . . And what will explain to you the path that is steep? - (It is
freeing the bondman . . . (90:4-13)
Never should a Believer kill a Believer; but (if it so happens) by mistake, (compensation is due): if one (so) kills a Believer, it is ordained that he should free a believing slave, and pay compensation to the deceased's family . . . For those who find this beyond their means, (is prescribed) a fast for two months running: by way of repentance to Allah. (4:92)
Allah will not call you to account for what is futile in your oaths, but will call you to account for your deliberate oaths: for expiation, feed ten indigent persons . . . or clothe them; or give a slave his freedom. If that is beyond your means, fast for three days. (5:89)
Alms are for the poor and the needy, and those employed to administer the (funds); . . . for those in bondage and in debt . . . (9:60)
But for those who divorce their wives . . . then wish to go back on the words they uttered, - (it is ordained that such a one) should free a slave before they touch each other: this you are admonished to perform . . . And if any has not (the wherewithal), he should fast for two months consecutively before they touch each other. But if any is unable to do so, he should feed sixty indigent ones. (58:3-4)
Verily We have created Man into toil and struggle. . . . And what will explain to you the path that is steep? - (It is
freeing the bondman . . . (90:4-13)
Nah, I genuinely am laughing. Here we have an alcoholic ex commie atheist who is inventing Pashtun leaders (next we will hear that Alexander was a Pashtun based on some monkey gibberish he finds somewhere that's been thoroughly been debunked) to "get away with doing whatever he wants" in creating Azaaaaad Retardedistan that could never incorporate a people according his perverted psychopathic vision of Islam. Thats what we have with him on the left hand and on the other hand we have a Quran that says:
Worship Allah and join none with Him in worship, and do good to parents, kinsfolk, orphans, Al-Masakin (the poor), the neighbour who is near of kin, the neighbour who is a stranger, the companion by your side, the wayfarer (you meet), and those (slaves) whom your right hands possess. Verily, Allah does not like such as are proud and boastful [Translation of the meanings of Quran 4:36 by Muhsin Khan]
The one is a dancing monkey that is trying to simultaneously claim descent from Ghurids, Genghis, Alexander, etc and the other makes total sense.
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