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  • Originally posted by Manzareh View Post
    It's called a discussion and a valid point, stop being intolerant and butthurt because you are on the receiving end for a change, I can speak about what I want to here, freedom of speech.

    We are Pashtuns not katchee's from Karachi, we value our religion so get used to these kind of discussions. If you want to engage with us then answer the topic/post at hand instead of winging.


    You don't agree with anything he says unless it suits your narrative.
    Discussion? Freedom of Speech?
    How good of you to finally embrace it.

    No, Pashtuns don't value Islam.
    Only Muslims Pashtuns value Islam.
    I am Pashtun in case you forgot and there are many like me.

    You don't agree with anything he says unless it suits your narrative
    Sounds a lot like you & Religious people in general.



    "False beliefs influence our actions and degrade our character."

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    • Originally posted by Manzareh View Post
      It's called a discussion and a valid point, stop being intolerant and butthurt because you are on the receiving end for a change, I can speak about what I want to here, freedom of speech. We are Pashtuns not katchee's from Karachi, we value our religion so get used to these kind of discussions. If you want to engage with us then answer the topic/post at hand instead of winging.



      You don't agree with anything he says unless it suits your narrative. How very convenient this piece of shiit statistic is all of a sudden lol. Damn fool



      You weren't religious at all I remember your posts because of how shallow they were in terms of Islamic knowledge. I was not religious AT ALL but compared to your lack of basic understandings and idiotic questions I felt like I was. You are a lier. First you say you was a Mullah now you say you was religious. It's all a load of crap like your fairytale trip to Cuba.




      'To me a good thing is a good thing and a bad thing is a bad' LOL what kind of kintergarden statement is this. It exposes how futile your thinking is, you cannot comprehend context. Not everything is black and white, there are a lot of complex subjects in Islamic jurisprudence. You do not have the mental capacity to research into matters further than their titles.
      You're the one who is getting buthurt, I just responded to your idiotic thread, I mean just look at the title, and since when are majority of Pashtuns great muslims? being conservative doesn't mean you are a great muslim. Hardly anyone knows anything about the Quran, hadiths or even the 5 prayers they do. do you call that being a great muslim? stop being stupid, Shamlawar is exactly right in this sense, most are fake muslims pretending to be great

      and again, are you denying all the those aspects of Islam that I mentioned? is Islam so complicated that no normal human being can understand it?, whats the point of this religion if no one can understand it? this is the bull crap argument I hear from Sufi type muslims all the time. While I hate Salafis/Wahabhis, at least I will give them this that they are honest about Islam and very literal about the meaning of Islam

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      • Originally posted by Damir9000 View Post
        Discussion? Freedom of Speech?
        How good of you to finally embrace it.

        No, Pashtuns don't value Islam.
        Only Muslims Pashtuns value Islam.
        I am Pashtun in case you forgot and there are many like me.

        You don't agree with anything he says unless it suits your narrative
        Sounds a lot like you & Religious people in general.
        Freedom of speech and freedom to insult is 2 different things, learn them son. Pakhtun da kamzay ye halaka, da kum zaat yey?
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        *You cannot climb the ladder of success with your hands in your pockets*

        Originally posted by Karachi
        like I said, there was only one reason I pretended to be pathan, for a girl, who was from Afghan forums and also registered here

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        • Originally posted by Karachi View Post
          You're the one who is getting buthurt, I just responded to your idiotic thread, I mean just look at the title, and since when are majority of Pashtuns great muslims? being conservative doesn't mean you are a great muslim. Hardly anyone knows anything about the Quran, hadiths or even the 5 prayers they do. do you call that being a great muslim? stop being stupid, Shamlawar is exactly right in this sense, most are fake muslims pretending to be great

          I did't say we are great muslims, i said we are all known to be proud Muslim based on statistics. The likes of you are just spurting conspiracy theory's that we are not Muslims or take pride in our faith in order to give your rubbish arguments some weight.

          "hardly anyone knows anything about Quran and Hadiths" where is this "hardly" from, from who, you? what survey have you carried out? again, baseless claims.


          Originally posted by Karachi View Post
          and again, are you denying all the those aspects of Islam that I mentioned? is Islam so complicated that no normal human being can understand it?, whats the point of this religion if no one can understand it? this is the bull crap argument I hear from Sufi type muslims all the time. While I hate Salafis/Wahabhis, at least I will give them this that they are honest about Islam and very literal about the meaning of Islam
          You haven't given anything for me to deny apart from mere titles. Just because YOU don't understand it or able to grasp concepts doesn't mean nobody else does. It's a fact that there are millions of practising Muslims which practice their faith and understand it, for you to deny this is further exposing your naivety. Truth is you are too lazy to worship your lord, too arrogant to constructively research into Islamic jurisprudence from that which makes you uncomfortable.
          People like you share the same analogy of a spoilt brat kid - just after an easy life able to do non-Islamic things, and when you are not allowed to then you throw tantrums and make out your master to be unjust not being grateful for all the blessings you have received..mark my words sooner or Allah will take away what you have and your unappreciative attitude will be compensated for, you will search for peace and contentment in your life but deep down will never be happy. Some of your types are so far away from spiritual consciousness that you blame God for forbidding you to do certain things because it interferes with your social life or ethics at work, unbelievable.
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          *You cannot climb the ladder of success with your hands in your pockets*

          Originally posted by Karachi
          like I said, there was only one reason I pretended to be pathan, for a girl, who was from Afghan forums and also registered here

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          • This karachi guy is similar to the new generation of our local atheists but still no matter how hard they try,whites consider them hardcore muslims.

            They are mentally unstable and perhaps also suffering from established depression.

            i feel sorry for them
            "[B][SIZE="3"]Seer Speen Wazeer[/SIZE][/B]"

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            • Originally posted by Manzareh View Post
              I did't say we are great muslims, i said we are all known to be proud Muslim based on statistics. The likes of you are just spurting conspiracy theory's that we are not Muslims or take pride in our faith in order to give your rubbish arguments some weight.

              "hardly anyone knows anything about Quran and Hadiths" where is this "hardly" from, from who, you? what survey have you carried out? again, baseless claims.




              You haven't given anything for me to deny apart from mere titles. Just because YOU don't understand it or able to grasp concepts doesn't mean nobody else does. It's a fact that there are millions of practising Muslims which practice their faith and understand it, for you to deny this is further exposing your naivety. Truth is you are too lazy to worship your lord, too arrogant to constructively research into Islamic jurisprudence from that which makes you uncomfortable.
              People like you share the same analogy of a spoilt brat kid - just after an easy life able to do non-Islamic things, and when you are not allowed to then you throw tantrums and make out your master to be unjust not being grateful for all the blessings you have received..mark my words sooner or Allah will take away what you have and your unappreciative attitude will be compensated for, you will search for peace and contentment in your life but deep down will never be happy. Some of your types are so far away from spiritual consciousness that you blame God for forbidding you to do certain things because it interferes with your social life or ethics at work, unbelievable.

              Lol oh yes very proud muslims you are, what does that do when you know nothing about Islam. are you telling most people in Afghanistan/Pakistan area follow Quran/Hadiths on a daily basis? you are a fool if you believe that. Most people in those countries can't even read or write, they only follow whatever their mullahs are telling them, without researching anything themselves. This is a fact anyone sane will agree on

              Again, you may call me whatever, but to deny those things are there in Islam, you are simply lying or you are not a true muslim. You just pick and choose things to follow in Islam. which doesn't make you a good muslim, like majority of muslims
              Last edited by Karachi; 04-22-2016, 01:41 PM.

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              • Originally posted by Da Bannu Mazdigar View Post
                This karachi guy is similar to the new generation of our local atheists but still no matter how hard they try,whites consider them hardcore muslims.

                They are mentally unstable and perhaps also suffering from established depression.

                i feel sorry for them

                I am no athiest and you being a illegitimate child of a Pakistani General is the last person who should talk about Islam, go worship your Pakistani army that is your God

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                • Originally posted by Karachi View Post
                  I am no athiest and you being a illegitimate child of a Pakistani General is the last person who should talk about Islam, go worship your Pakistani army that is your God
                  BC teri to saari adatain bhartio wali hai.Karachi mai rehnay ka kia faida.
                  "[B][SIZE="3"]Seer Speen Wazeer[/SIZE][/B]"

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                  • Originally posted by Da Bannu Mazdigar View Post
                    BC teri to saari adatain bhartio wali hai.Karachi mai rehnay ka kia faida.
                    Tu tera kia jata hai? I am bharti like most Karachities, what will you do about it? push us in the sea hahahahahah

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                    • Originally posted by Karachi View Post
                      Tu tera kia jata hai? I am bharti like most Karachities, what will you do about it? push us in the sea hahahahahah
                      pagal samjha hai,paani kharab ho jayga aur pani k andar makhlooqaat ki moat aa jaygi..

                      Mujhe abhi tak ye samajh ni aa rhi hai k tum logo ko ALLAH ne banaya kyon?kia ek shaitaan kafi ni tha
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                      • Originally posted by Da Bannu Mazdigar View Post
                        pagal samjha hai,paani kharab ho jayga aur pani k andar makhlooqaat ki moat aa jaygi..

                        Mujhe abhi tak ye samajh ni aa rhi hai k tum logo ko ALLAH ne banaya kyon?kia ek shaitaan kafi ni tha
                        Allah ne islye banaya hai, sirf tum Haramzadon ko khatam karne ke liye, simple as that.

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                        • Originally posted by Manzareh View Post
                          Freedom of speech and freedom to insult is 2 different things, learn them son. Pakhtun da kamzay ye halaka, da kum zaat yey?
                          Freedom to insult is a part of Freedom of Speech.
                          People who want to limit Freedom of Speech always try to label something they don't agree with as offensive.
                          Freedom of Speech requires individuals to grow thicker skins.
                          As the saying goes: Offense can only be taken, not give.
                          So yeah, deal with it.

                          I don't know what to answer to that...
                          I am Waziristani Pakhtun from Logar/Kabul.
                          Is that what you wanted to know?

                          Son, Halaka?
                          How old are you dude?
                          Last edited by Damir9000; 04-22-2016, 06:18 PM.



                          "False beliefs influence our actions and degrade our character."

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                          • Originally posted by Da Bannu Mazdigar View Post
                            no matter how hard they try,whites consider them hardcore muslims.
                            What do you mean?



                            "False beliefs influence our actions and degrade our character."

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                            • Originally posted by Damir9000 View Post
                              What do you mean?
                              He thinks that every non-white person who becomes atheist is just doing this so the white people will accept them. But white people still will see the atheist as brown savage muslims.
                              They see atheism as a white people culture. I guess they just follow Islam to please arabs, thats why they think being atheist is done to please white people.

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                              • Originally posted by Khostai View Post
                                He thinks that every non-white person who becomes atheist is just doing this so the white people will accept them. But white people still will see the atheist as brown savage muslims.
                                They see atheism as a white people culture. I guess they just follow Islam to please arabs, thats why they think being atheist is done to please white people.
                                Personnaly, I have trouble identifying who is a Muslim on the street when they don't wear islamic attire.

                                Even in High School, my fellow Muslim classmates were surprised when I told them I was Muslim.
                                Last edited by Damir9000; 04-22-2016, 06:19 PM.



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