pashtun tribes and their origin

[Admin Khan]

sooo??? who are the hotaks??

I don't know how accurate this is but:

http://www.nps.edu/programs/ccs/docs/tribal%20trees/hotak_tribe.pdf

[Amir al Ghaznavi]

sooo??? who are the hotaks??

as if a book and a pdf file wasnt enough, did you want Uncle Ghaznavi to read it for you too

my bad, i shouldve found you a pop up book with lots of colours

[IamDZJ]

as if a book and a pdf file wasnt enough, did you want Uncle Ghaznavi to read it for you too

my bad, i shouldve found you a pop up book with lots of colours

Shoo, get away from me.

[Amir al Ghaznavi]

An account of the Abdali legend

http://books.google.ca/books?id=NbMI...=0CDYQ6AEwAzge#

[Amir al Ghaznavi]

I cant copy and paste it, but I think everyone should read this passage written by a Brit about Afghans (Pakhtuns). Obviously it smacks of a condescending Orientalist tone, but there is some truth to it......bottom of page 43

http://books.google.ca/books?id=CJw9...0tribe&f=false

[ScimitarXEdge]

my family are Hotaks and my grandfather is from Moqur. Of course we originated from Qandahar, but then migrated to Zabul and then to Ghazni.

[Amir al Ghaznavi]

Ive come across some material that indicates a possible Kakar ancestry for the Jadoon

http://books.google.ca/books?id=S3YM...=0CDwQ6AEwBTge

I wonder how true this is

[khushal]

I cant copy and paste it, but I think everyone should read this passage written by a Brit about Afghans (Pakhtuns). Obviously it smacks of a condescending Orientalist tone, but there is some truth to it......bottom of page 43

http://books.google.ca/books?id=CJw9...0tribe&f=false

bottom of page 43 talks about steam bottling and aerated waters, what is so important about that.
But I believe you are talking about pg. 473, What truth is there to it. The way he is talking, Ghengis Khan could say the same thing about the English if he ever reached it at the time, or Ahmed Shaw Durrani could say the same thing about the Sikhs.
The Moors of North Africa probably said the same thing about the Spaniards and Italians, and 500 years later the Spaniards and the Italians probably then said it about the North Africans that ruled over them in the past.

The Author clearly has a racist attitude where he believe the Europeans not only have the right but are the only ones capable to efficiently manage and organize the asiatic races for their own interests. Ya Ok you have
convinced me.

[Amir al Ghaznavi]

bottom of page 43 talks about steam bottling and aerated waters, what is so important about that.
But I believe you are talking about pg. 473, What truth is there to it. The way he is talking, Ghengis Khan could say the same thing about the English if he ever reached it at the time, or Ahmed Shaw Durrani could say the same thing about the Sikhs.
The Moors of North Africa probably said the same thing about the Spaniards and Italians, and 500 years later the Spaniards and the Italians probably then said it about the North Africans that ruled over them in the past.

The Author clearly has a racist attitude where he believe the Europeans not only have the right but are the only ones capable to efficiently manage and organize the asiatic races for their own interests. Ya Ok you have
convinced me.

I already told you that it was orientalist and condescending. I think some truth can be found in it, especially the comment on organization, management and rule

[Amir al Ghaznavi]

Shoo, get away from me.

a thank you would have been nice, but ehhhh

Thanks Ghaznavi

anytime brother

[khushal]

I already told you that it was orientalist and condescending. I think some truth can be found in it, especially the comment on organization, management and rule

What truth is in it. The Taliban managed Afghanistan much better than NATO has done, even though NATO has more resources at their disposal.

Zahir Shaw did a better job than the Communists and Soviets did, even though the communists and the Soviets had more resources at their disposal. Your confused, the question is at whose interests can it be manged better. Oil rich Arab land is not managed at the interests of its people, but at the interests of it imperial masters. The Afghans are fully capable to manage their own resources for their own people but obstacles are put in place to prevent that.

[Toramana]

my family are Hotaks and my grandfather is from Moqur. Of course we originated from Qandahar, but then migrated to Zabul and then to Ghazni.

Da saway Bacha, tha kho yara amunga khpalwan okhthai..zamanga nikona ham da Maqur na raghali di kana.....

[khushal]

Here's a useful link about the four branches of the Pashtun linkeage.
Qais Abdur Rashid - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Sarban

Sherani,babar is from 1 of sons from sherani cast,as sherani is 1st cast in pashtoon originally

1. Durrani
2. Mohammedzai
3. Tarklani (Bajauri)
4. Tanoli
5. Tareen
6. Khalil
7. Daudzai
8. Chamkani
9. Mohmand
10. Shilmani
11. Kasi
12. Alizai
13. Yusufzai
14. Burki (Urmur)
15. Babore
16. Jaffar
17. Ustarana
18. Barech
19. Kakezai
20. Shilmani

Batan

1. Seyani
2. Dotanni
3. Niazi
4. Nasar
5. Swati
6. Shinwari
7. Suri
8. Lodi
9. Marwat
10. Baittani
11. Ghilzai

16.Udns Strikers
Ghourghusht

1. Daavi
2. Mandokhail
3. Gadoon/Jadoon
4. Kakar
5. Safi
6. Naghar
7. Pani
8. Daavi
9. Babai
10. Tarik

Karlani Afghan Tribes Genealogy & Family Tree.


Karlan

1. Dilazak khel
2. Afridi
3. Bangash
4. Dawari
5. Khattak
6. Khugyani (zazai and tori were the sons of Khugyani)
   
7. Mahsud
8. Orakzai
9. Wardak
10. Wazir
11. Mangal
12. Zadran

I corrected the khugyani branch, from what I understand the mahsud fall under the wazir branch. Mahsud was the great grandson of Wazir.

Where I am confused is are Sarban, Karlan, Ghourghusht, Batan the four sons of Abdul Rashid Quais Baba. can anyone explain this for me please.

[gadoonwal]

Da saway Bacha, tha kho yara amunga khpalwan okhthai..zamanga nikona ham da Maqur na raghali di kana.....

ahahaha,,khwaha de nada chi da kandara de nikona rashi?
kala ,,ghabari shay,,,,kala yousuzay,,dna woka chi khabara khlasa shey.

[gadoonwal]

Here's a useful link about the four branches of the Pashtun linkeage.
Qais Abdur Rashid - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Sarban

Sherani,babar is from 1 of sons from sherani cast,as sherani is 1st cast in pashtoon originally

1. Durrani
2. Mohammedzai
3. Tarklani (Bajauri)
4. Tanoli
5. Tareen
6. Khalil
7. Daudzai
8. Chamkani
9. Mohmand
10. Shilmani
11. Kasi
12. Alizai
13. Yusufzai
14. Burki (Urmur)
15. Babore
16. Jaffar
17. Ustarana
18. Barech
19. Kakezai
20. Shilmani

Batan

1. Seyani
2. Dotanni
3. Niazi
4. Nasar
5. Swati
6. Shinwari
7. Suri
8. Lodi
9. Marwat
10. Baittani
11. Ghilzai

16.Udns Strikers
Ghourghusht

1. Daavi
2. Mandokhail
3. Gadoon/Jadoon
4. Kakar
5. Safi
6. Naghar
7. Pani
8. Daavi
9. Babai
10. Tarik

Karlani Afghan Tribes Genealogy & Family Tree.


Karlan

1. Dilazak khel
2. Afridi
3. Bangash
4. Dawari
5. Khattak
6. Khugyani (zazai and tori were the sons of Khugyani)
   
7. Mahsud
8. Orakzai
9. Wardak
10. Wazir
11. Mangal
12. Zadran

I corrected the khugyani branch, from what I understand the mahsud fall under the wazir branch. Mahsud was the great grandson of Wazir.

Where I am confused is are Sarban, Karlan, Ghourghusht, Batan the four sons of Abdul Rashid Quais Baba. can anyone explain this for me please.

things from wiki can be wrong.
Somewhere i read that karlan was the son of ,,sarban,,but still not sure.
The sarbanis and karlanis may not be the decendants of Qais baba.Pashtun race is thousands years old and not that recent.
The Gharghasht and Betan are the tow sons of Qais baba .Qais baba was born in the mountain of ,,zjob,,south-pashtunkhwa(northren baluchistan) and most of the Gharghasht tribes still in the same region.
Pashtun history not clear so may be they are the four sons of Qais or the decendants of ,,afghana ibni armaghan ibni malak talot,,according to historains.