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  • the turi tribe

    The Turi pakhtun tribe belong to the karlans branch but there is a bet confusion about their origin and we will look at that in our discussion.
    The Turi tribe maily living in Kuram agency and some accross the border in afghanistan,s paktia province.The Turi is the only pashtun tribe entirely Shai muslims.
    According to the Turi pashtuns their leader visited Makha for Haj in the 17th century and on his way back from Haj he also visited Iraq where he converted to shai sect of islam.Before that the tribe was Suni muslim.
    Today they care more for their Shai sect then their pashtun origin.They do,nt mixed up with other pashtuns-------------------------------------------

    this info from wiki here,,,
    The Turi or Torai is the name of a Pashtun tribe in the northeastern Paktia Province of Afghanistan[1] and extends to the Kohat border of the North-West Frontier Province of Pakistan. The Turis also inhabit the Kurram Valley, which adjoins the western end of the Miranzai Valley in Kurram Agency, Federally Administered Tribal Areas, Pakistan. They speak Pashto and practice the Shia sect of Islam.[1]
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    [edit] History

    [edit] Pre-Imperial history

    The original language of Turis was not Pashto, but due to the surrounding Pashtun tribes they adopted that language.[citation needed] The Turis occupied Kurram,[when?] which was part of the Mughal Empire, although the Mughals held nominal control over the region. During the latter years of Mughal rule the area came under the control of the Afghans. During this period the Turi displaced the Bangash, and the remaining Bangash became hamsayas (clients) of the Turi.[2]
    [edit] British annexation

    After the annexation of Kohat by the British, the Turis, in league with other tribes, repeatedly harassed the Miranzai border, attacking the Bangash and Khattak villages in Kohat. In 1854 they made a treaty, but their raids continued, though punitive measures were not resorted to, as the tribe was held to be under the control of the Amir of Afghanistan.[2]
    However their raids increased in audacity, and in 1856 a force under Brigadier-General Neville Bowles Chamberlain entered the valley. Following this, compensation (the payment of which was guaranteed by the Afghan governor Ghulam Jan) was exacted, the Turis agreeing to pay 8,630 rupees. In 1859 the Turis joined the British expedition against the Kabul Khel Wazirs, but their feud with that tribe subsequently gave much trouble, with reprisals being undertaken by Wazirs in British territory for Turi offenses. In 1816, serious disturbances arose between the Bangash of Lower Kurram and the British village of Thal out of a boundary dispute. In 1877 the Turis were discontented with the oppressive administration of Shahbaz Khan, governor of Kurram, and when the Amir demanded from them a contribution of 50,000 rupees (a poll tax of 5 rupees on every adult female) and 6,000 recruits for his war against the British, they revolted and fled to the hills.[3]
    Attempts to pacify the tribe were unsuccessful for a time, but the Turis at last agreed to send a jirga to Kabul and pay a benefaction of 25,000 rupees, while Shahbaz Khan was recalled by the Amir.[3]
    In November, 1878, a column under General Roberts entered Kurram from Thal, and occupied Kurram Fort on the 25th of that month. Following on from subsequent British conquests the Turis now co-operated with the British expedition against the Zaimukhts, whose hostility had been marked by the murder of Lieutenant Kinloch, and Kurram was held without further disturbance until its evacuation in October, 1880. The Turis throughout furnished supplies, their levies were employed in escorting convoys, and they, with the Bangash, petitioned that the British should take over the valley and free them from Afghan rule; but the British elected to evacuate the country and the tribe was declared independent.[3]
    Internal feuds broke out in a few months, and throughout 1882-4 the Turis were constantly fighting among themselves, as well as with the Jajis and Zaimukhts. The administration of the valley was finally undertaken by the British Government, at the request of the Turis themselves, in 1892.[3]
    Although their early dealings with the British government were inclined to turbulence, and they were involvedin the Miranzai expeditions of 1851 and 1855, the only expedition specially sent against them was the Kurram expedition of 1856. After this they settled down and engaged in trade. During the Second Afghan War they supplied Sir Frederick Roberts with guides and provisions. In 1892 they voluntarily accepted British administration and furnished a large part of the tribal militia in the Kurram Valley.
    [edit] Sub-divisions


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    The Turis, who are also called Turizais, have five divisions. These are known as Hamza Khel, Mastu Khel, Gondi Khel, Alizai and Duparzai. These are grouped into two main group or clans. The Hamza Khel and Mastu Khel are known as Sargullai, whereas the remaining three are called "Chardi".Detail of each division and the area occupied by them are given below:
    • Hamza Khel: They are also known as "Kuchis" because they mostly used to be nomadic. They used to migrate to Zarak-i-Kamal and Shobak during the winters.the Hamza Khel has Spinkai, Mallal, Tarakki, Jana Khel, Pari Khel, Sati Khel, Dreplari, Badi Khel, Jaji and Khashki Khel sub-divisions. The Spinkais have Jamal Khel and Adam Khel sections, whereas Tarakkis have Bailkai, Shakar Khel,Saragullai and Aka Khel sections. The Hamza Khel own lands in karman, Shakhana, Matudai, Mianji, Taida-Kotkai, Malana and Gorakmor. The Maqbal tribe lives between them in the Mallal area in Mianji, Nasardin, Joeri and Tseri hills of the Jajis.
    • Mastu Khel: The Mastu Khel are sub-divided into Pirzai Khel, Zakaria Khel, Hussain Khel, Haji Khel, Turka Khel, Biga Khel and Mina Khel. They live in Tezana, Maidanak, Menozai, Badshah, Ahmadzai, Hakim Qala, Karim Qala, Sadara, Tari Kot, Shakar Kot, Baliamin and Jalamic.
    • Gondi Khel: The main sub-divisions of the Gondi Khel are Ali Khel, Mamut Khel, Adin Khel, Kamil Khel and Alam Khel. The sub-sections of Mamut Khel are Shamshai Tanai Khel and Nandar Khel. They have occupied the left bank of the Kurram river from Malkot to Ibrahimzai in the villages of Peiwar, Agra, Makot, Amalkot, Ramak, Wali Muhammad Qala, Bangian, Walidad, Yakubi Sanderkot, Torpaki and Ibrahimzai. Thier Kurram right bank villages are Rana and Maura.
    • Alizai: Their three sub-divisions are Mir Hassan, Ahmad Khel and Malik Khel. The Mir Hassan sub-sections are Muhammad Khel and Chago Khel. The main villages of the Alizais are Peiwar, Habib Qala, Kunj, Gambir, Agra and Alizai.
    • Duparzai: The two sub-divisions of Duparzais are known as Saro Khel and Mirdad Khel. The Saro Khel sub-sections are Daolat Khel, Jafar Khel, Sultan Khel, Shubalan Khel, Baghdadiwar and Megak. The Mirdad Khel sub-sections are Kami Khel, Dreplara, Tar Khel, Lamikot Khel and Kachikana. The Duparzais live in the villages of Paiwar, Shubolam, Bughdi, Alam Sher Qala, Dangila, Shaikh Nur Qala Mathzai, Gidara, Shingak, Barukhai, Kharlachi and Tangi. It may be worth nothing here that these Turi villages and sub-sections existed in the early years of this century. With the increase of population, many changes have taken place in the people themselves and their settlements.



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    pa prady jaba khabarai pakhtun naka
    be laila bala soda kho majnon naka
    gero jabo kre lahoo pa khpal tahzeeb ki
    be pakhtu ba de bal hestsok rastoon naka
    hamza baba
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    • Zazai and Turi are Karlani like Khugyani/Khakwani and Wazir/Maseed and Afridi

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      • I'm a Zazai and from what we are told since childhood is that the Turi are our cousins(tre zaman). Zazai and Turi were brothers whose father was Khugyani.

        From what I understand the conflicts that arise between mongal/turi and wazir/turi and others are mainly because of land disputes and turn into shia/sunni conflicts mainly because the sunni tribes bring up Sunni/Shia difference to get support of neighboring sunni tribes. In the past there has been zazai/turi alliances against mongal over land disputes but whenever Mongal raises sunni/shia arguments, the alliance weakens or breaks.
        Last edited by khushal; 05-09-2011, 02:00 PM.

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        • Originally posted by gadoonwal View Post
          ahahaha,,khwaha de nada chi da kandara de nikona rashi?
          kala ,,ghabari shay,,,,kala yousuzay,,dna woka chi khabara khlasa shey.
          Stha pa shan Pukhthana kho za pa jab kai garzooma ...za dartha da courtesy na sa wayama na aow gap darsara lagoma aow tha musalsal offenses kai....

          Ghalai sha bas....
          Last edited by Toramana; 05-09-2011, 02:29 PM.

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          • Originally posted by Toramana View Post
            Stha pa shan Pukhthana kho za pa jab kai garzooma ...za dartha da courtesy na sa wayama na aow gap darsara lagoma aow tha musalsal offenses kai....

            Ghalai sha bas....
            I am not a low life paracha like you .Creating thread against other members for insult is your habit.
            zama pa shan pukhtana ta pa jab ki nashi garzolai zaka chi jab sara sara ba de grewan hum washlagi.yaw paracho ta gora aw pakhtun pa jab ki garzolo ta gora.
            staa jab kho hasai hum da ,,da cia da dollaro ,,na duk de nu insan ba pakai sanga zay kai.
            da kho ba haga waht maloma shey chi makhmakh dasai awti bawti woyai.
            hasai pa net rata zaan na chamni khan ma jora wah.staa rona mung dir ledali dey.
            keep licking the boots of punjabis and americans.
            I should,nt be wasting my time with parachi of mountain region of ,,dir,,torabana.



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            pa prady jaba khabarai pakhtun naka
            be laila bala soda kho majnon naka
            gero jabo kre lahoo pa khpal tahzeeb ki
            be pakhtu ba de bal hestsok rastoon naka
            hamza baba
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            • Who are the Tanolis are they pashtuns?
              and what is the background of Esa Khels which is the main tribe they belong to?
              Please shed the light on this

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              • ^
                welcome TURK
                i dont know about Esa khel but it sounds as if they are related to Esa(jesus)A.S.
                Dont knwo abotu Tanolis,lets hear it from the x perts.

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                • he is esakhel...

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                  • Originally posted by graveyardofempires View Post
                    ^
                    welcome TURK
                    i dont know about Esa khel but it sounds as if they are related to Esa(jesus)A.S.
                    Dont knwo abotu Tanolis,lets hear it from the x perts.
                    o_O

                    ...OR there could have been a Patrilineal ancestor with the name Esa Khan.

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                    • Originally posted by khashayar View Post


                      he is esakhel...
                      is he pashtun

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                      • my father's good friend and work colleague was a niazi from mianwali, pakistan. niazi family do not speak pashto but saraiki, a dialect of panjabi, however the family culture is similar to pashtun and they adhere to pashtunwali customs. they trace their ancestors to pashtuns. settled in panjab and PK border lands, they have forgotten pashto. my experience and dealing with tribal niazis has been very respectful. i find them amongst the most decent, moral, and dignified people of pakistan, with nang and izzat, in general.

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                        • Tanoli

                          According to some historains the Tanolis are pashtuns and belong to the ,,sarbani,,group of pashtuns.
                          They migrated from the ,,tanal,, a place between Gradez (paktya) and Gazni.There is also a river called ,,tanal,,.It is taniwal later change to tanoli.Some historain agree that the tanolis are pashtuns belong to different pashtun tribes and taniwal is the name of area not tribe.
                          The Tanolis are still present in paktya proince and gazni area.
                          After the Tanoli migration from afghnistan they settled in Topi,bunir,swat and upper tanawol(now part of tehsil oghi).In the 14th century the yousufzais,khalis etc pashtuns arrived from afghanistan to peshawar valley and after defeating the dilazak pashtun tribe they moved to topi/swabi area where the tanolis fought with them however the Tanolis were defeated by yousufzias pashtuns and pushed accross to the indus river.The Tanolis in pashtuns dominated areas speak pashtu and in hazara they speak khindko.
                          Sardar zabardast khan tanoli was famous leader of tanolis.
                          Sardar suba khan Tanoli (tanoli tribal chief) took part in the invasion of india and was leading the tanoli tribe in the army of ahmad shah baba.
                          The state of ,,amb,,,on the east bank of indus river was the tanoli country ruled by fareed khan tanoli family from tanawaol.
                          The father of famous bollywood star feroz khan was tanoli pashtun from gazni afghanistan.
                          There is another theory tanoli belong to a turkic tribe and migrated from ,,tanal pass,, in central asia but that is a not a papular one.
                          There is a book ,,tanoli ul afghan,,written by a tanoli historain.
                          Their cultur is similar to pashtuns.
                          waqar tanoli is famous pashtu singer from ,,oghy,,area of mansehra distt in uper tanawol.



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                          pa prady jaba khabarai pakhtun naka
                          be laila bala soda kho majnon naka
                          gero jabo kre lahoo pa khpal tahzeeb ki
                          be pakhtu ba de bal hestsok rastoon naka
                          hamza baba
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                          • Originally posted by KHORASAN.TAJIK
                            you pashtuns are very funny. u hate on those poor little hazara people when in fact u guys have mongol names for example baba, khan words like that are all traced back to mongols u actually adopted their names hahahaaaaaaaaa

                            AFGHANISTAN ZINDABAD!!!! NO PASHTUNISTAN WHAT IS THAT?
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                            • does anyone have details on Mamund tribe?
                              Not momand but mamund.

                              Mamund belongs to Tarkani

                              this is all i could find about us

                              The Mamund are a Pashtun tribe who are one of the four clans of Tarkanis. The tribe is located principally in the Watelai valley, but also owns villages on both sides of the Durand Line. Majority of Mamund live in one of the seven tribal regions of Pakistan "Bajour Agency", although Mamund also live in the Marawara District of Kunar Province in Afghanistan. Haji Hazrat Rehman is the current tribal head of Afghan Mamunds. Today the tribe population exceeds a little over a million.

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                              • ESA KHELS & Mohmands

                                Originally posted by torkham View Post
                                my father's good friend and work colleague was a niazi from mianwali, pakistan. niazi family do not speak pashto but saraiki, a dialect of panjabi, however the family culture is similar to pashtun and they adhere to pashtunwali customs. they trace their ancestors to pashtuns. settled in panjab and PK border lands, they have forgotten pashto. my experience and dealing with tribal niazis has been very respectful. i find them amongst the most decent, moral, and dignified people of pakistan, with nang and izzat, in general.


                                dera manana wrora, but what it mean with Esa Khel. Please tell me something about Esa Khels. I have heared that Esa Khels is a sub tribe of Mohmands. Is it true?

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