Having multiple wives in Pashtun culture.

[Mayana]

Yeah, his kids are not going to be fun, once they grow up. If he really did what you said.

No mashAllah subhanAllah his children are the most amazing, the most intelligent, the most talented, the most achieving individuals I have ever met. They graduate from schools and universities among the top 20 of the country, his daughter is a doctor, his sons are engineers and doctors. But that's not even what you measure character by. They have such amazing principles, such strong personalities.. such an impressive understanding of Islam.. that all you can do is stand in front of them in awe.
And all this is due to the mothers, may Allah bless them and reward them for all their struggles and pain, inshAllah.

[MeemWawMeemNoon]

Have you presented a paradox or a contradiction, dearest Mayana?

[Zarawar]

No mashAllah subhanAllah his children are the most amazing, the most intelligent, the most talented, the most achieving individuals I have ever met. They graduate from schools and universities among the top 20 of the country, his daughter is a doctor, his sons are engineers and doctors. But that's not even what you measure character by. They have such amazing principles, such strong personalities.. such an impressive understanding of Islam.. that all you can do is stand in front of them in awe.
And all this is due to the mothers, may Allah bless them and reward them for all their struggles and pain, inshAllah.

Exactly, thats' why I tell people to marry more than one wife, the rest is in Allah's hands

[MeemWawMeemNoon]

Exactly, thats' why I tell people to marry more than one wife, the rest is in Allah's hands

You actually tell people that? You are very brave dear brother.

[MeemWawMeemNoon]

Exactly, thats' why I tell people to marry more than one wife, the rest is in Allah's hands

Yes.

[Millatpal Noorzai]

ودونه کړه ودونه دوه ؤ دری دغه دی شپی دی
پښتون لالا په دی کار کی میندلی ښی مزی دی

Thread reminded me of a song sung by Abdullah Maquri regarding the tradition of polygamy in Pashtuns.
I personally think,there is nothing wrong with it.
U.S. Constitution needs to be amended in this aspect

[Zarawar]

You actually tell people that? You are very brave dear brother.

I don't understand whats brave about this?

Getting married once, twice or three times, they all are the same.

Haven't you spoke or encouraged anyone to get married? (it doesn't has to be two wives)

I just think that if one is fair enough (to treat them equally) , should marry more than one wive.

Getting married once or getting married twice is the same, both are equal and Islamic processes.

There is nothing strange about it, in fact we have made it look like it's a strange deal.

[Mayana]

Have you presented a paradox or a contradiction, dearest Mayana?

Not that I know.. no.

Exactly, thats' why I tell people to marry more than one wife, the rest is in Allah's hands

LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL
They are not like that because their dad couldn't hold his horses together.
They are like that because they were lucky to have such an amazing mother. Had they not, they'd have become some mentally challenged, dense children of a man who fathered a few dozen children and wasn't even capable of raising a single one.

He didn't marry the women to "stabilize" their standing in society. He married them because he believed it was his God given right and DUTY to marry 4 women and that he must marry four women, no matter if he cant take care of them or not, no matter if he can even live with all of them or not, no matter if he can even afford to have that many children or not.
He married out of pure lust.

[Zarawar]

Not that I know.. no.



LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL
They are not like that because their dad couldn't hold his horses together.
They are like that because they were lucky to have such an amazing mother. Had they not, they'd have become some mentally challenged, dense children of a man who fathered a few dozen children and wasn't even capable of raising a single one.

He didn't marry the women to "stabilize" their standing in society. He married them because he believed it was his God given right and DUTY to marry 4 women and that he must marry four women, no matter if he cant take care of them or not, no matter if he can even live with all of them or not, no matter if he can even afford to have that many children or not.
He married out of pure lust.

Khorey,

pashtu matal dai

"ghwa ka tora da, shodey ye speeney dee"

It sums up what you just said...

Oh and quite back biting people. I bet he isn't as bad as you are trying to make him.

[MeemWawMeemNoon]

Not that I know.. no.



LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL
They are not like that because their dad couldn't hold his horses together.
They are like that because they were lucky to have such an amazing mother. Had they not, they'd have become some mentally challenged, dense children of a man who fathered a few dozen children and wasn't even capable of raising a single one.

He didn't marry the women to "stabilize" their standing in society. He married them because he believed it was his God given right and DUTY to marry 4 women and that he must marry four women, no matter if he cant take care of them or not, no matter if he can even live with all of them or not, no matter if he can even afford to have that many children or not.
He married out of pure lust.

The mother is not to be given 100% credit. That is why I asked you whether, by mistake, you have presented a paradox or a contradiction.

[MeemWawMeemNoon]

Khorey,

pashtu matal dai

"ghwa ka tora da, shodey ye speeney dee"

It sums up what you just said...

Oh and quite back biting people. I bet he isn't as bad as you are trying to make him.

I did not understand the rest, but the bolded part is well said.

[Zarawar]

The mother is not to be given 100% credit. That is why I asked you whether, by mistake, you have presented a paradox or a contradiction.

I'm not even going to try speaking for that guy, we don't even know the real story. She might be right, or she might be wrong.

[Mayana]

Khorey,

pashtu matal dai

"ghwa ka tora da, shodey ye speeney dee"

It sums up what you just said...

Oh and quite back biting people. I bet he isn't as bad as you are trying to make him.

I like how you called it backbiting when I talked about him but didn't call it backbiting when I said she left him
Allahu aleem about how he is and how he isn't. May Allah guide us all inshAllah.

The mother is not to be given 100% credit. That is why I asked you whether, by mistake, you have presented a paradox or a contradiction.

In this case, she is. And trust me - I never give a mother full credit, I am a daddy's girl. But in this case, trust me, she is to be given 100% credit for what she has made out of his children.

[Zarawar]

I like how you called it backbiting when I talked about him but didn't call it backbiting when I said she left him
Allahu aleem about how he is and how he isn't. May Allah guide us all inshAllah.



In this case, she is. And trust me - I never give a mother full credit, I am a daddy's girl. But in this case, trust me, she is to be given 100% credit for what she has made out of his children.

I called it back biting, because you wrapped this dude in nothing but bad deeds and gave his wives a good image.
The wife leaving him part, I didn't even notice lol

[MeemWawMeemNoon]

In this case, she is. And trust me - I never give a mother full credit, I am a daddy's girl. But in this case, trust me, she is to be given 100% credit for what she has made out of his children.

But how? They each have 23 chromosomes from each parent. Not every child is intelligent and capable even if he or she put all of his or her efforts together and studied day and night. Plus, how can one do anything without the help of Allah? You can say that you give the mother a lot of credit.

However, my paradox/contradiction question had to do with the fact that a man who married multiple wives ended up helping society. Would you not say so?