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  • #76
    Originally posted by Zarawar View Post
    I called it back biting, because you wrapped this dude in nothing but bad deeds and gave his wives a good image.
    The wife leaving him part, I didn't even notice lol

    Exactly my point, wroraa.
    Allah is my witness I need not prove a thing to anyone but Him, inshAllah. =)

    Originally posted by MeemWawMeemNoon View Post
    But how? They each have 23 chromosomes from each parent. Not every child is intelligent and capable even if he or she put all of his or her efforts together and studied day and night. Plus, how can one do anything without the help of Allah? You can say that you give the mother a lot of credit.

    However, my paradox/contradiction question had to do with the fact that a man who married multiple wives ended up helping society. Would you not say so?

    I don't think so. The mothers by chance were good women. Had they not been such, he could've easily have fathered 36 psychopaths due to the circumstances they grew up in.

    What my point is that whatever the children turned out like was not because of the father marrying 3 women. It was because those 3 women happened to be good women - he fathered the children but did very little in actually raising them. Had he truly wanted to contribute to society, he could have done so by marrying one woman. No need to marry three women and have one sit all the way across the globe.

    Daa zma lewanay Zrra gorah, daa sta lewanee Mina..
    Za ba da Sahra warnakam da Iran pa Golestan,
    Dalta za yao & yakta yam, halta zar zma pa Shaan
    .

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    • #77
      Even when you marry one woman, most of the time it is her who raises that children, no?
      Islam will prevail, a promise made by the Creator of this universe:

      [61:8] They desire to extinguish the light of Allah with the breath of their mouths, but Allah will perfect His light, even if the disbelievers hate it.

      [61:9] He it is Who has sent His Messenger with the guidance and the Religion of truth, that He may cause it to prevail over all religions, even if those who associate partners with God hate it.

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      • #78
        DAD or MOM is not an issue here guys

        guys u have stepped into the issue of oediphal and electra complexes as described by sigmond freud.. a girl cant help lovin har dad no matter how many skies fall, so is a boy who wil side with his mom against all odds. the issue here is two three or four marriages. in my view the reasons are

        1. lack of physical capacity in the wake of the polluted food stuff eaten by men in this so called modern age as against the men of the past who use to consume a complete pitcher of water in one go..

        2. women's want for ease and facilities like AC and heated rooms which a man cant afford as against the men of the past whose wives never demanded any such facilitation..

        3. impact of media on the minds both of men and women cos love has been idealized rather realized...

        4. act on the knowledge of Quran is extinct in these days.. cos Quran says "masnaa wa sulaasa wa rubaa" but our women wont ever agree to this quranic verse.. many men can afford even 10 wives, but their 1st wife wont allow him to do even the 2nd...

        hope my point is clear enough..

        Regards,

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        • #79
          Can the next person relate this question to Auguste comte?

          Awal ye Max weber well,
          Bya Sigmond Frued show

          looks like everyone is a sociologist in here...

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          • #80
            Originally posted by Mayana View Post

            Exactly my point, wroraa.
            Allah is my witness I need not prove a thing to anyone but Him, inshAllah. =)



            I don't think so. The mothers by chance were good women. Had they not been such, he could've easily have fathered 36 psychopaths due to the circumstances they grew up in.

            What my point is that whatever the children turned out like was not because of the father marrying 3 women. It was because those 3 women happened to be good women - he fathered the children but did very little in actually raising them. Had he truly wanted to contribute to society, he could have done so by marrying one woman. No need to marry three women and have one sit all the way across the globe.
            I dont get you

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            • #81
              Originally posted by shlombay
              Ghani Khana, aslee Ghani khan ya, good post wrora.


              Zarawara dont you love PF lol? We have psychologists, atheists, sociologists,nationalists,biologists,doctors lol.

              This is what happens when you make these good threads.


              I asked my dad about this and he said this is popular only in the villages.
              Da atheist de pa haya na3lat sheee

              Aw pa agha rozana chey doi ta ye mor aw plar warkarey

              Be adabi ma3f thats something I cannot stand, and I wish to hurt someone's feelings by saying this.

              Manana

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              • #82
                Sure ... though they're very relevant, and I'm sure we'd end up have the same discussion in both threads . . . no?

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                • #83
                  Originally posted by PashtunQueen
                  Zarawar thank God this custom is no longer as possible as it was in the past in my opinion.
                  Well,

                  A very small number of Pashtuns are outside their native lands, millions still practice this.
                  But, I do agree with the problems it comes with, specially if the poor girl is forced to marry.

                  I have uncles that have 2 3 and 4 wives, and they just got married.

                  Last time I checked one had 18 and the other had 22 kids.

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                  • #84
                    Originally posted by Zarawar View Post
                    Well,

                    A very small number of Pashtuns are outside their native lands, millions still practice this.
                    But, I do agree with the problems it comes with, specially if the poor girl is forced to marry.

                    I have uncles that have 2 3 and 4 wives, and they just got married.

                    Last time I checked one had 18 and the other had 22 kids.

                    whats the big deal about having too many children... so that they stay uneducated, don't get enough food to eat, one becomes charsi, another sharabi... brother! its better to have 2 or 3 kids and raise them well and i think people that can't afford to have children and raise them well shouldn't even have kids.

                    now u r gonna say that ur uncles are filthy rich and his 22 kids are all doctors and engineers... whatever... not everyone is like that. i have seen many many families back home having 5 or 6 kids but can't even feed them.

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                    • #85
                      Originally posted by eyeliner View Post
                      your acting as though your doing some kind of favour on them.
                      Well I am if you think more about it.
                      Originally posted by Jasmine
                      Master Khan, think twice about what you said. You do know you need permission from your 1st wife right?
                      I will and I am sure she won't mind.

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                      • #86
                        Originally posted by Feroza_Banu View Post
                        whats the big deal about having too many children... so that they stay uneducated, don't get enough food to eat, one becomes charsi, another sharabi... brother! its better to have 2 or 3 kids and raise them well and i think people that can't afford to have children and raise them well shouldn't even have kids.

                        now u r gonna say that ur uncles are filthy rich and his 22 kids are all doctors and engineers... whatever... not everyone is like that. i have seen many many families back home having 5 or 6 kids but can't even feed them.
                        Feroza khorey,
                        you have a point..

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                        • #87
                          Originally posted by Feroza_Banu View Post
                          whats the big deal about having too many children... so that they stay uneducated, don't get enough food to eat, one becomes charsi, another sharabi... brother! its better to have 2 or 3 kids and raise them well and i think people that can't afford to have children and raise them well shouldn't even have kids.

                          now u r gonna say that ur uncles are filthy rich and his 22 kids are all doctors and engineers... whatever... not everyone is like that. i have seen many many families back home having 5 or 6 kids but can't even feed them.
                          This is something which the Quran objects to.

                          The key is to maintain a life where all the basic needs are met.
                          Islam will prevail, a promise made by the Creator of this universe:

                          [61:8] They desire to extinguish the light of Allah with the breath of their mouths, but Allah will perfect His light, even if the disbelievers hate it.

                          [61:9] He it is Who has sent His Messenger with the guidance and the Religion of truth, that He may cause it to prevail over all religions, even if those who associate partners with God hate it.

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                          • #88
                            everyone is allowed to have kids but you got to be a men to rise them

                            Only a fool can make a baby but a men can rise one.

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                            • #89
                              Originally posted by MeemWawMeemNoon View Post
                              This is something which the Quran objects to.

                              The key is to maintain a life where all the basic needs are met.
                              i consider education and even higher education a very basic need!

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                              • #90
                                Originally posted by Feroza_Banu View Post
                                i consider education and even higher education a very basic need!
                                Yes English is important...umm.. How about a second wife here in UK .

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