Islam and Women

[Dreamer]

you never heard of eunuchs?

oh I've heard of them... disgusting practice...

[RevolutionThroughReason]

served its purpose

[Dreamer]

^ so do u think Islam promotes this filthy practice?

[RevolutionThroughReason]

whether or not it does, people found a solution to the concern you mentioned.

[Dreamer]

whether or not it does, people found a solution to the concern you mentioned.

the religion of "peace"

[RevolutionThroughReason]

the religion of "peace"

I never said that, nor would I ever. "peace" is a relative term anyways..

[DaZahroJaam.]

You might be living in a country were women are considered to be equal to some extent, still you might have to fight for complete equality, but women living in different parts of the world suffer humiliating conditions! The World Economic Forum, which publishes the preeminent ranking on gender gap issues, ranked Saudi Arabia 10th from the bottom in its 2013 report — ahead of Mali, Morocco, Iran, Cote d’Ivoire, Mauritania, Syria, Chad, Pakistan and Yemen. Here are some of the “shameful” restrictions you can find in some countries in the year 2014:
1. India (some parts): Road safety rules don’t apply to women.

In some states of India, women are excepted from safety rules that mandate motorcycle passengers wear helmets — an exemption that kills or injures thousands each year. Women’s rights advocates have argued the exemption springs from a culture-wide devaluation of women’s lives. Supporters of the ban say they’re just trying to preserve women’s carefully styled hair and make-up — which isn’t exactly a feminist response.
2. Yemen: A woman is considered only half a witness.

That’s the policy on legal testimony in Yemen, where a woman is not, to quote a 2005 Freedom House report, “recognized as a full person before the court.” In general, a single woman’s testimony isn’t taken seriously unless it’s backed by a man’s testimony or concerns a place or situation where a man would not be. And women can’t testify at all in cases of adultery, libel, theft or sodomy.
3. Saudi Arabia and Vatican City: Women can’t vote… still.

This is amazingly the case in Saudi Arabia, though a royal decree, issued in 2011, will let women vote in Saudi elections in 2015. Vatican City is the only other country that allows men, but not women, to vote.
4. Ecuador: Abortion is illegal, unless you’re an “idiot.”

Begum says this is the policy in Ecuador, where abortions have long been outlawed for everyone but “idiots” and the “demented.” Politicians are considering a policy with the more politely worded term “mentally ill,” but that won’t change abortion’s legal status in Ecuador — or, more importantly, the fact that the law is frequently used to criminalize miscarriages.
5. Saudi Arabia and Morocco: Rape victims can be charged with crimes.

Many, many countries fail to protect the victims of rape, but some go a step further — punishing women for leaving the house without a male companion, for being alone with an unrelated man, or for getting pregnant afterwards. The most infamous case may be Saudi Arabia’s “Qatif girl,” but a recent suicide in Morocco also made headlines — 16-year-old Amina Filali killed herself after a judge forced her to marry her alleged rapist, in keeping with a policy that invalidates statutory rape charges if the parties marry.
6. Yemen: Women can’t leave the house without their husbands’ permission.

Yemen, where this law remains in force, does allow for a few emergency exceptions, Begum says: if the woman must rush out to care for her ailing parents, for instance.
7. Saudi Arabia: Women can’t drive.

The good news? According to the World Economic Forum’s most recent gender gap report, equality has made “modest” gains in the Middle East. And Begum, of Human Rights Watch, says there’s lots of agitation for more change. “Women in Saudi Arabia are highly educated and qualified,” she said. “They don’t want to be left in the dark.”
Source: Washington Post

[Al Hanif]

Also note about your statement that men and women can't control themselves in the west... One might say that muslim men can't control themselves hence the allowance in scripture for them to have four wives and numerous concubines/sex slaves who unlike people in the west wouldn't even have a choice in the matter of not having sex since they are considered property devoid of human choice

Slaves ARE property and there's nothing wrong with that.

Don't want to be the property of a muslim ? Don't collaborate with muderers.

The very moment you accepted to kill a muslim you gave the right to have you wife enslaved.

[Dreamer]

Thee goes your Islam is the religion of peace... So you now admit that some people have no humanity and in the case of sec slaves can be raped.. Such delightful beliefs you hold ... A wonder there is so much bad press regarding them!

[RevolutionThroughReason]

Thee goes your Islam is the religion of peace... !

Unless people here have said Islam is "the religion of peace" stop harping on that.. You just sound like you're rattling off some propaganda narrative.

[DaZahroJaam.]

so islam says it's okay to enslave someone's wife if the husband has murdered someone in your family and sleep with her??

you are all full of ****. every single one of you.

[Al Hanif]

Thee goes your Islam is the religion of peace... So you now admit that some people have no humanity and in the case of sec slaves can be raped.. Such delightful beliefs you hold ... A wonder there is so much bad press regarding them!

When I look at such videos of US soldiers coming back from war and being greeted by their wives.





And their wives cry because their husband came back from Iraq or Afghanistan, my heart is filled with disgust and I lose all faith in religion and I almost doubt about the existance of a God who could be so cruel to allow such things as women crying because their husband the murderer came back from his mischievous crimes.

But then, I remember that my religion says that these women can be legally enslaved by the Muslims they attacked and I immediately restore my faith in Allah Most High and in his Noble Religion.

Most certianly if Islam allowed these women to have big smiles on their faces after what they did to the Noble Advocates of the Unicity of Allah SWT, I would have apostazied from Islam.


If it were only for me, I would have prefered these satanic animals to be tortured and mutilated like the Mongolian Golden Hordes and Ancient Hebrews used to do but unfortuately, Islam doesn't allow such barbaric acts.


Don't want to be a sexual slave ? Don't attack Muslims. The choice is yours.

Muslims will never attack you in a million years and if a Muslim rapes a women, his punishment is death by stoning for adultery.

But the very moment you decided to kill muslims and launch a war against them, you lost the right to everything, your own body doesn't belong to you, you are a criminal and now the property of a Muslim.

I'm not going to cry if the Iraqis or the Afghans raped the wives of these US soldiers.

Not in a million years I would renounce to Islam for this.

[Dreamer]

Dude you have a victim mentality... Sick views on rape too ... You need help

[RevolutionThroughReason]

Al Khaneeth



Your argument doesn't make sense, why would people not guilty of the crimes being committed be subject to such punishment. Becoming Muslim property aside,, why would the wife who wasn't responsible for any crime be penalized? if you're against loose sexuality, why would you engage in acts like rape, where is rape sanctioned in Islam regardless of whether you have slaves? please provide references.

[Dreamer]

so islam says it's okay to enslave someone's wife if the husband has murdered someone in your family and sleep with her??

you are all full of ****. every single one of you.

Ask al hanif he will tell you with glee how his god allows him to rape women simply because they were "captured" they become property and any marriage that they may have had becomes void... Such warped beliefs he holds...