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  • #76
    Originally posted by khushal View Post
    there is no quote, it is a commentary done by somebody like him who knows nothing and does not make sense.

    Any proof that it's a commentary by somebody like me? ....you seem to be just making assumptions without any basis; prove that it's merely an arbitrary commentary.
    [QUOTE=Afghanistan2010;658085][B]He is no different [COLOR="Red"]than us[/COLOR][/B],[B]he[COLOR="Red"] blindly believes [/COLOR]in the words [COLOR="Red"]of other men[/COLOR][/B],:[/QUOTE]

    2010 Admitting he's a blind believer not in God, but what other men says.

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    • #77
      Originally posted by RevolutionThroughReason View Post
      Any proof that it's a commentary by somebody like me? ....you seem to be just making assumptions without any basis; prove that it's merely an arbitrary commentary.
      I already did, it does not make sense. go to pashtunland and ask someone that you would like to be their slave living in their home. they would slap you silly, but if you goto the area where I am from, you would get a bullet to the head.

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      • #78
        Originally posted by khushal View Post
        Dude his intention is not to criticize the arab slave trade but to criticize islam and make islam look like a religion that sanctioned the slave trade. His sworn enemy is Islam, not arabs. arabs are easy to defeat, he knows that, Islam is not and he knows that as well.
        His plan is to portray Islam as a tool that arabs used for their own interests.


        stop trying to play off of emotional black mail; and stop prancing around like a propgandist I know Toramana's agenda; but truth is the truth no matter who says it; even a Shi'a Maoist Hazara, and in this respect he's right in the critique of immoral practices accepted in our societies as normal. Even if his real goal is just to promote the moral decay of imperialistic hegemony

        is the sky no longer blue because Toramana said so?
        [QUOTE=Afghanistan2010;658085][B]He is no different [COLOR="Red"]than us[/COLOR][/B],[B]he[COLOR="Red"] blindly believes [/COLOR]in the words [COLOR="Red"]of other men[/COLOR][/B],:[/QUOTE]

        2010 Admitting he's a blind believer not in God, but what other men says.

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        • #79
          Originally posted by khushal View Post
          I already did, it does not make sense. go to pashtunland and ask someone that you would like to be their slave living in their home. they would slap you silly, but if you goto the area where I am from, you would get a bullet to the head.


          Your argument is not "proof" it's an argument; proof is actually showing something that confirms your argument; you asserted a HYPOTHESIS; a Hypothesis is not itself evidence.

          That's not a good example; since Pashtun culture has dramatically changed since then.

          Your hypothetical postulations aren't "proofs" ....remember a hypothesis is NEVER proof
          [QUOTE=Afghanistan2010;658085][B]He is no different [COLOR="Red"]than us[/COLOR][/B],[B]he[COLOR="Red"] blindly believes [/COLOR]in the words [COLOR="Red"]of other men[/COLOR][/B],:[/QUOTE]

          2010 Admitting he's a blind believer not in God, but what other men says.

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          • #80
            do you know the definition of an annotation--> commentary

            show me proof that pashtun culture has changed since abdur rahman. they only parts that have changed are the big cities. my village is the same. my grandfather was born in 1895 and he never told me his family owned slaves. show me a pashtun that has stories of thier families of being slave owners.
            arabs and europeans, I can show you many.

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            • #81
              Originally posted by RevolutionThroughReason View Post
              http://books.google.com/books?id=nbZ...ubines&f=false
              this book just talks about ghiljis, it does not confirm what toramana says about slavery in pashtun culture.

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              • #82
                Originally posted by RevolutionThroughReason View Post
                stop trying to play off of emotional black mail; and stop prancing around like a propgandist I know Toramana's agenda; but truth is the truth no matter who says it; even a Shi'a Maoist Hazara, and in this respect he's right in the critique of immoral practices accepted in our societies as normal. Even if his real goal is just to promote the moral decay of imperialistic hegemony

                is the sky no longer blue because Toramana said so?
                Its not emotional blackmail. your looking for allies. Like the US, you have none because like the US your spitting out non sense.

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                • #83
                  Originally posted by khushal View Post
                  do you know the definition of an annotation--> commentary

                  show me proof that pashtun culture has changed since abdur rahman. they only parts that have changed are the big cities. my village is the same. my grandfather was born in 1895 and he never told me his family owned slaves. show me a pashtun that has stories of thier families of being slave owners.
                  arabs and europeans, I can show you many.
                  http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/annotation

                  an·no·ta·tion   [an-uh-tey-shuhn] Show IPA
                  noun
                  1.
                  a critical or explanatory note or body of notes added to a text.
                  [QUOTE=Afghanistan2010;658085][B]He is no different [COLOR="Red"]than us[/COLOR][/B],[B]he[COLOR="Red"] blindly believes [/COLOR]in the words [COLOR="Red"]of other men[/COLOR][/B],:[/QUOTE]

                  2010 Admitting he's a blind believer not in God, but what other men says.

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                  • #84
                    Originally posted by khushal View Post
                    Its not emotional blackmail. your looking for allies. Like the US, you have none because like the US your spitting out non sense.
                    There's no need for allies; You have such a juvenile understanding of logic it's embarrassing. Just because you disagree with someone about other topics; doesn't mean you disagree with someone about everything on that basis; it's about truth not allies. The reason you believe that's the case is that's the mode by which you think and thus project it upon others.

                    all for the stupidity and ignorance of False Ethnic pride.
                    [QUOTE=Afghanistan2010;658085][B]He is no different [COLOR="Red"]than us[/COLOR][/B],[B]he[COLOR="Red"] blindly believes [/COLOR]in the words [COLOR="Red"]of other men[/COLOR][/B],:[/QUOTE]

                    2010 Admitting he's a blind believer not in God, but what other men says.

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                    • #85
                      Originally posted by khushal View Post
                      show me proof that pashtun culture has changed since abdur rahman. they only parts that have changed are the big cities. my village is the same. my grandfather was born in 1895 and he never told me his family owned slaves. show me a pashtun that has stories of thier families of being slave owners.
                      arabs and europeans, I can show you many.

                      so you proof? hmm ok

                      Naghma !!! Pashto New Tappey - YouTube

                      Shaista Sadat Lami INTW with Dr. Basharmal-VOA - YouTube

                      Women Empowerment by Shukria Barakzai/Afghanistan - YouTube

                      Interview with Dr. Ramazan Bashardost one of controversial Afghan MP in TOLO TV 2009 Part 1 - YouTube


                      should I continue or is this enough evidence?

                      You're asking for anecdotal references as evidence?

                      TELAI2
                      http://www.royalark.net/Afghanistan/telai2.htm

                      5) Sardar Muhammad Akbar Khan (s/o a concubine, full-brother of Bustan and Nek). He d.s.p. before 1880.
                      Afghan War of 1879-80 ...
                      http://books.google.com/books?id=bn6BAAAAIAAJ&pg=PA316&lpg=PA316&dq=barakzai+dynasty+concubines&source=bl&ots=0OK1xSN2IA&sig=c35WU1nGngyU08vV5tk3kmTLyyI&hl=en&sa=X&ei=Doe8T8emDonN6QH26rkt&ved=0CEsQ6AEwBA#v=onepage&q=barakzai%20dynasty%20concubines&f=false


                      Law in Afghanistan
                      http://books.google.com/books?id=ksC-BL2WivUC&pg=PA204&dq=Afghanistan+concubines&hl=en&sa=X&ei=EYi8T5WNFaPs6gGny9Ug&ved=0CFEQ6AEwBTgK#v=onepage&q=Afghanistan%20concubines&f=false


                      Modernist Islam, 1840-1940
                      http://books.google.com/books?id=W4OKaz5dzdYC&pg=PA126&dq=Afghanistan+concubines&hl=en&sa=X&ei=uYi8T4LSNPHH6AGhrdlJ&ved=0CGcQ6AEwCTgU#v=onepage&q=Afghanistan%20concubines&f=false
                      Modernist Islam was a major intellectual current in the Muslim world during the 19th and 20th centuries. Proponents of this movement typically believed that it was not only possible but imperative to show how "modern" values and institutions could be reconciled with authentically Islamic ideals. This sourcebook brings together a broad range of writings on modernist Islam from across the Muslim world. It makes available for the first time in English the writings of many of the activists and intellectuals who made up the early modernist Islamic movement. Charles Kurzman and a team of section editors, each specializing in a different region of the Islamic world, have assembled, translated, and annotated the work of the most important of these figures. With the publication of this volume, an English-speaking audience will have wider access to the literature of modernist Islam than did the makers of the movement themselves.



                      Land of the Unconquerable
                      http://books.google.com/books?id=MkdnBug7eW8C&pg=PA58&dq=Afghanistan+concubines&hl=en&sa=X&ei=mIm8T5WBFYnN6QH26rkt&ved=0CDgQ6AEwATge#v=onepage&q=Afghanistan%20concubines&f=false
                      Reaching beyond sensational headlines, Land of the Unconquerable at last offers a three-dimensional portrait of Afghan women. In a series of wide-ranging, deeply reflective essays, accomplished scholars, humanitarian workers, politicians, and journalists—most with extended experience inside Afghanistan—examine the realities of life for women in both urban and rural settings. They address topics including food security, sex work, health, marriage, education, poetry, politics, prisoners, and community development. Eschewing stereotypes about the burqa, the contributors focus instead on women’s empowerment and agency, and their struggles for peace and justice in the face of a brutal ongoing war. A fuller picture of Afghanistan’s women past and present emerges, leading to social policy suggestions and pragmatic solutions for a peaceful future.


                      and what were you saying earlier about why Amanullah banned slavery.....you seemed to have forgotten to address that and instead looked for a cowardly diversion. as usual.
                      Last edited by RevolutionThroughReason; 05-23-2012, 03:55 AM.
                      [QUOTE=Afghanistan2010;658085][B]He is no different [COLOR="Red"]than us[/COLOR][/B],[B]he[COLOR="Red"] blindly believes [/COLOR]in the words [COLOR="Red"]of other men[/COLOR][/B],:[/QUOTE]

                      2010 Admitting he's a blind believer not in God, but what other men says.

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                      • #86
                        and since you have a hard on for villages

                        Little girls dancing to Pashto music - YouTube

                        Village woman dance part 1.3gp - YouTube

                        Kaliwal Day Programe at Peshawar University 08 March 2012 - YouTube

                        doesn't look like the city to me

                        the guy looks like a Keliwal

                        horny pathan girls with their punjabi lovers in pakistan pashtunistan - YouTube
                        [QUOTE=Afghanistan2010;658085][B]He is no different [COLOR="Red"]than us[/COLOR][/B],[B]he[COLOR="Red"] blindly believes [/COLOR]in the words [COLOR="Red"]of other men[/COLOR][/B],:[/QUOTE]

                        2010 Admitting he's a blind believer not in God, but what other men says.

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                        • #87









                          Pashtun villages in 2012















                          Pashtun villagers of the 19th Century.
                          [QUOTE=Afghanistan2010;658085][B]He is no different [COLOR="Red"]than us[/COLOR][/B],[B]he[COLOR="Red"] blindly believes [/COLOR]in the words [COLOR="Red"]of other men[/COLOR][/B],:[/QUOTE]

                          2010 Admitting he's a blind believer not in God, but what other men says.

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                          • #88
                            Pathan Girl Pathan Lardi larki.flv - YouTube

                            Pashtun village girl in 2011
                            [QUOTE=Afghanistan2010;658085][B]He is no different [COLOR="Red"]than us[/COLOR][/B],[B]he[COLOR="Red"] blindly believes [/COLOR]in the words [COLOR="Red"]of other men[/COLOR][/B],:[/QUOTE]

                            2010 Admitting he's a blind believer not in God, but what other men says.

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                            • #89
                              Shadow .....are you suggesting that anyone who asserts that certain flaws or short comings exist amongst Pashtuns is anti Pashtun in other words

                              you believe Pashtuns are infallible? isn't that against Islam?
                              [QUOTE=Afghanistan2010;658085][B]He is no different [COLOR="Red"]than us[/COLOR][/B],[B]he[COLOR="Red"] blindly believes [/COLOR]in the words [COLOR="Red"]of other men[/COLOR][/B],:[/QUOTE]

                              2010 Admitting he's a blind believer not in God, but what other men says.

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                              • #90
                                all this does is prove that your a perverted individual, you still have not proved that pashtuns were slave owners like arabs and europeans.

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