Slavery intrinsic to Arab Culture?

[khushal]

Not you actually just verified it; Your argument was to show that obedience to the constitution implicates being a Nation; the Government doesn't obey the constitution and they're still apart of the nation.

so your claim is debunked; obedience to a constitution is not proof of not being nation.

where you err is that the militias and the government have a dispute becasue the governmnet thinks the militias are violating the constitution. that is completely different from how the pashtun tribes dont recognize the constitution at all, they follow pashtunwali.

[faye]

those bacha bazi boys are sex slaves from the video i saw.

[RevolutionThroughReason]

what are you talking about. you use so many fallacies, I cant even count them. your original argument was the follwoing:

and? your original request was this.

show me proof that pashtun culture has changed since abdur rahman. they only parts that have changed are the big cities. my village is the same. my grandfather was born in 1895 and he never told me his family owned slaves. show me a pashtun that has stories of thier families of being slave owners.
arabs and europeans, I can show you many.

then you said this

We are talking about society not some family. your changeing goal posts

Talk about Fallacies and Changing goal posts!!!!

I think it's abundantly clear you're just in denial; and the evidence stands.

The debate is over.

[RevolutionThroughReason]

those bacha bazi boys are sex slaves from the video i saw.

Ah yes, I wasn't even thinking about that.

[khushal]

of course the debate is over, you couldnt prove anything. all you have is some commentary as the smokinng gun and even then you cant priove it is no more intrinsic to arabs as it is to pashtuns.

[RevolutionThroughReason]

If that was true; you would have shown evidence that my evidence was false; instead of inventing your own speculations as to why they weren't valid. And if wasn't evidence you wouldn't have shifted goal posts as I demonstrated.You haven't proven it's merely a commentary. This is merely a speculation. The fact it existed as socially accepted norms for both Pashtuns and Arabs; shows that it is no more or less intrinsic for either.




Something is proven by evidence; not whether Khushal lives in denial or not.

[R3SISTANC3]

This article was written by a pro-Zionist bigot who did not prove his point by showing how slavery is intrinsic to present day Arab cultures (he thinks Arab culture = Saudi or Gulf elite and royal families behavior). All he did is show how the corrupt tyrants his own Western governments support treat other human beings.

I don't see Arabs occupying foreign nations with massive armies, pillaging resources, and then continuing with "nation building" for which the host nation is indebted forever. The World Bank, IMF, are not owned by Arabs.

[khushal]

haha, your living in denial. show me real evidence not some commentary. your evidence is not evidence, its a commentary by some clueless idiot. from a book that is hundreds of pages long, all you could find is some commentary. whatever makes you sleep at night.

[RevolutionThroughReason]

I showed you both; and you're merely saying it's a commengtary to ease your conscience. It's a book written by Amir Abdur Rahman; and your claim the annotation is written by someone else is merely a speculation without any support. Thus it is evidence. The examples of the Barakzai lineages possessing concubine women fulfills your request for specific examples. Thus it's been verified without a doubt

you sir are just in denial.

[khushal]

come on. I said at the beginning that pashtun married women of the people they conquered, so I never denied that. you never showed both, all you did was show a commentary. its like the argument we had about you showing some quote about some joe shmoe talib saying that the russians support them and you turn it into fact as if the russians do actually support them. that was also just a commentary not backed by evidence just like this one is.

just because I wont beleive a comment by joe shmoe, that means I am in denial.

[RevolutionThroughReason]

You saying somethin isn't evidence! it's a hypothesis! You claiming something is a commentary doesn't make it so; especially if that supposed "commentary" is by the author itself; which you haven't shown otherwise

repeating the same logical fallacies won't make them true. What are you going to do; make another ad-hominem as you usually do when you want to scapegoat reality? The Taliban admitting russian assisistance also isn't commentary; when the perpetrator of a crime ADMITS his crimes, it isn't a commentary of his crimes; it's proof by self incrimination!. It's astonishing how desperate you are to avoid everything!

[faye]

if he isn't the one to make a particular statement then it is not true. if the hazaras say they were murdered, abused and their families bodies left out for the dogs, under force by taliban, he don't believe. no-one knows the truth of any matter, but khushal.

[RevolutionThroughReason]

Faye you looked at the evidence presented; does it confirm that evidence exists that slavery has existed amongst Pashtuns?

[khushal]

You saying somethin isn't evidence! it's a hypothesis! You claiming something is a commentary doesn't make it so; especially if that supposed "commentary" is by the author itself; which you haven't shown otherwise

repeating the same logical fallacies won't make them true. What are you going to do; make another ad-hominem as you usually do when you want to scapegoat reality? The Taliban admitting russian assisistance also isn't commentary; when the perpetrator of a crime ADMITS his crimes, it isn't a commentary of his crimes; it's proof by self incrimination!. It's astonishing how desperate you are to avoid everything!

ok from now on well take all commentaries as fact. lol

[faye]

i couldn't open that book.