Like flies around dung

[Damir9000]

I realize that, but most of them do move on with their lives, as there are a lot more people moving to atheism in western countries.(which is a fact so don't try to imply otherwise) But whenever you meet an ex-muslim they make it the focus of their lives.

Define move on with their lives?
I have read plenty comments on YouTube & Forums where people criticize Christianity.

[Khostai]

Can you explain?

He belives in lies and fooling the masses to abey the law by false teachings. He does not belive in God but uses Islam as a tool to controll the mases, he belives that western type of secularism will do more harm than good becuase everyone in muslim countries are just savages who will kill everyone if they become secular or atheist.

[Khostai]

Muslims are starting to tell the truth about Islam bits by pieces. Iblis claimed it was toxic, Manzareh called it dung, and Barakzai claimed that Muhammad owned sex slaves.

Iblis is a troll who wants to kill us dont trust that stinki paki.

[Firdousi]

So then why do you see westerners talking on the internet the most? Don't you realize most Afghan's don't have consistent internet access to constantly be posting stuff about how they leave Islam. It's obvious that the majority of these ex-muslims are westerners.

Westerner Afghans are much better educated than those living in Afghanistan so they will be much more liberal. Pretty obvious. The more educated the less religious.

Still does not change the fact that Muslims need to change. Just saying.

[Manzareh]

The more educated the less religious.

Don't make a fool of yourself please.

[Manzareh]

Ok we've got a few points, i guess for a majority of you guys you go through the same process of gay's..

The way they go through the stages of denial > decide what they want to be > suffer rejection from family's, friends > build up a big sense of animosity for people around them etc..

But i think Gay's are more civilised because they voice their anger and frustration out in real life, with you kafir's ex-muslims although you face the same level of hate you dont have the courage to be vocal in real time, instead you let it all boil up and swarm together in virtual reality and patronise people online. One person here described their apostasy as 'coming out the closet' .. interesting.

One thing i would say is, don't be surprised at religious people around you. The family & friends that choose to abandon you. Don't be surprised and confused why Muslims show intolerance to you as its all a natural reaction for any human being to oppose a member of society that actively works to demonise what you stand for. Its the same in alot of different situations, where family members are disappointed of what they see as betrayal fromthe kid turning out gay to the kid opting to study art instead of the expectation of studying medicine to marrying different races.

Ok we kind of know know why pashtunforums is full of kaafirs, but still doesnt answer the question of where the muslim pashtuns are online? there is much more muslim pashtuns than non-muslims so why do they abstain from this place. One of you said its 'because they have better things to do' if im honest, i kind of agree.. like myself i come here on/off when i'm bored, but the non-muslims are actively here day and night like its some sort of job, almost as though you are exhausting yourself to fight Islam.

[Da Bannu Mazdigar]

No matter how hard they try.For white people they are still muslims.

[Damir9000]

Except many of them are from Western countries where they do have the freedoms. If you actually ask a lot of these "ex-muslims", they're generally from western countries.

The ones who are visible yes.
But there are many in hiding in Islamic countries.
You can go onto Ex-Muslims forums and find out.

I was surprised there are so many ExMuslims in Saudi Arabia.

[Damir9000]

No matter how hard they try.For white people they are still muslims.

No that's not true.
My friends were surprised that I did Ramadan.

An Old Italian lady at the Bus stop was so shocked when I said to her that I am Afghan/Muslim.

Westerners are very open & welcoming compared people in Islamic countries.

[Firdousi]

Don't make a fool of yourself please.

My statement is backed by facts. Most religious countries use to be also the less developed ones. Just compare Pakistan, Sudan or Somalia with secular European countries. Centuries ahead. You hurt? Not my problem lol

[Firdousi]

No that's not true.
My friends were surprised that I did Ramadan.

An Old Italian lady at the Bus stop was so shocked when I said to her that I am Afghan/Muslim.

Westerners are very open & welcoming compared people in Islamic countries.

Westerners are more tolerant than Muslims. But they also hold a bitter hatred for non-Westerners. They just don't speak out because its taboo. But once they go online they speak freely and many of them are as racist and backward as Muslims.

[Firdousi]

No matter how hard they try.For white people they are still muslims.

Brother we are talking about Islam and Muslims. Since you Pakistanis are Hindus people please mind your own business lmao

[Damir9000]

Ok we've got a few points, i guess for a majority of you guys you go through the same process of gay's..

The way they go through the stages of denial > decide what they want to be > suffer rejection from family's, friends > build up a big sense of animosity for people around them etc..

But i think Gay's are more civilised because they voice their anger and frustration out in real life, with you kafir's ex-muslims although you face the same level of hate you dont have the courage to be vocal in real time, instead you let it all boil up and swarm together in virtual reality and patronise people online. One person here described their apostasy as 'coming out the closet' .. interesting.

One thing i would say is, don't be surprised at religious people around you. The family & friends that choose to abandon you. Don't be surprised and confused why Muslims show intolerance to you as its all a natural reaction for any human being to oppose a member of society that actively works to demonise what you stand for. Its the same in alot of different situations, where family members are disappointed of what they see as betrayal fromthe kid turning out gay to the kid opting to study art instead of the expectation of studying medicine to marrying different races.

Ok we kind of know know why pashtunforums is full of kaafirs, but still doesnt answer the question of where the muslim pashtuns are online? there is much more muslim pashtuns than non-muslims so why do they abstain from this place. One of you said its 'because they have better things to do' if im honest, i kind of agree.. like myself i come here on/off when i'm bored, but the non-muslims are actively here day and night like its some sort of job, almost as though you are exhausting yourself to fight Islam.

the same process of gay's.. ?
LOL

What do you know about what ExMuslims face?
Many are forced to live double lives because of them openly rejecting Islam will tear the family apart, get kicked out of family home or possibly endanger their life. Just look at news.
There are some lucky ones in the west that don't encounter any problems.

In my case, my parents are fully aware that I am not religious or care for it but not a full atheist.
My brother on the other hand knows.

The only reason why Ex Muslims "demonise" Islam so much is because of how evil it is.
You can't just leave it & be chill like in other religions.
Your family, friends, government & fellow countrymen turn against you and want to KILL you.
ExMuslims will leave Islam in peace, when Muslims/Islam will leave Exmuslims in peace.

Studying Art rather than Medicine? Hey that's me. lol

Haven't you heard of different Time Zones? Or are you one of those Muslims who think the Earth is flat?

Where are the religious Pashtuns?
I doubt they care enough to be on this site or are too scared to express themselves because of the CIA & Mossad hysteria.
But I doubt they actually have better stuff to do, they are probably watching TV.

[Damir9000]

Westerners are more tolerant than Muslims. But they also hold a bitter hatred for non-Westerners. They just don't speak out because its taboo. But once they go online they speak freely and many of them are as racist and backward as Muslims.

There are for sure some. But that is normal for every country.

Personally, I haven't met any like which you are describing.

[Firdousi]

There are for sure some. But that is normal for every country.

Personally, I haven't met any like which you are describing.

As I have pointed out previously its because racism is taboo. They don't dare to speak their thoughts. They can be as racist and violent as any of us.

West is a good role model for the rest of the world but should not idealize them.