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Luffy.....YU MUFTI KHPAL ZWAY BANDAY 10 Kala Elam wakru ....
haga chay Raghlu na BAYAN ya wakru chay pa Ghwag hem wangrwalu....
Baba ya hem nast wu chay kala da MUNZ wakht shu nu Baba ya Pasdalo awo
yo takay ya wakru chay
CHAY MA PARON DA TAHJUD MUNZ wANRKU ......
tol pa jara shu...
dalta ka GHWAG khalak da ma garawi bya mung khpal FEKER AWO EHSAS khu
nashu wajalay
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I think it's pretty obvious.
Most of these Pashtun forums are nationalist forums that have an anti-Panjabi bias, yet are strangely pro-Tajik, or at least Tajiks not as bad as the Panjabis.
If you'd want to be more popular then you'd have to apply the same criticism of Tajiks as you would to Panjabis (who so far appear less responsible for the mess in Afghanistan from the questions I've posed).
Why should an Afghan Pashtun/Nationalist Pashtun (which on the internet are one and the same) expect a Pakistani Pashtun to be more anti-Panjabi than anti-Tajik? You don't mind Dari words, but if a Panjabi word is spoke, you act like the sky is falling down.
Being fair would be a start.
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Also no one want to be considered as an inferior kind of pashtun. Here on this forum afghans mock KP pashtuns, and label them as pakis who can not count in pashto and that their pashto is not pure and that their culture is diluted.
On pakistani forums kp pashtuns can proudly say that they are pashtuns while on afghan forums they are looked down upon. So obviously they will prefer sites where they are accepted as equal people...which ofcourse are pakistani forums.
Also a common pashtun of pakistan would want to discuss pakistan related topics, which are absent from pashtun forums.
Forexample i want to discuss strike of docters in punjab but here no one is even aware of it and would nt discuss the topic. So naturally i would go to a pakistani site for discussing this topic
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That is not the point.....if you have noticed even in Paki forums pashtuns are called Pathans ....stupid jokes regarding pathans are posted in each and every forum and they are considered as idiots, ullu key pattey, and even terrorists........a pashtun who doesn't know about Bacha khan, Samad khan achakzai etc are well fit to join those paki forums because you would always find them calling our heroes as Traitors.......a true pashtun will argue with them and at the end of the day he will be banned .....You will find many topics on small incidents and events taken place in islamabad, Lahore, Karachi etc (even you would find a topic on the killing of a dog in the streets of Lahore) but hardly there would be a topic regarding the drone attacks in Waziristan and the killings of innocent pashtuns..........Originally posted by Luffy View PostAlso no one want to be considered as an inferior kind of pashtun. Here on this forum afghans mock KP pashtuns, and label them as pakis who can not count in pashto and that their pashto is not pure and that their culture is diluted.
On pakistani forums kp pashtuns can proudly say that they are pashtuns while on afghan forums they are looked down upon. So obviously they will prefer sites where they are accepted as equal people...which ofcourse are pakistani forums.Na soz sho na saaz sho,
Bas hasy jwand tamam sho
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I have always defended afghanistan and pashtuns on pakistani forums but i never get banned, while i have seen those pashtuns/afghans getting banned who joined just for sake of bashing pakis and punjabis. Ask bls, he was member on pakistani forum and he never got banned. I am a member of largest pakistani forum and ethnic jokes are banned there.Originally posted by Yousafzai Pakhtun View PostThat is not the point.....if you have noticed even in Paki forums pashtuns are called Pathans ....stupid jokes regarding pathans are posted in each and every forum and they are considered as idiots, ullu key pattey, and even terrorists........a pashtun who doesn't know about Bacha khan, Samad khan achakzai etc are well fit to join those paki forums because you would always find them calling our heroes as Traitors.......a true pashtun will argue with them and at the end of the day he will be banned .....You will find many topics on small incidents and events taken place in islamabad, Lahore, Karachi etc (even you would find a topic on the killing of a dog in the streets of Lahore) but hardly there would be a topic regarding the drone attacks in Waziristan and the killings of innocent pashtuns..........
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There is a basic flaw in this forum, it is not an actual pashtun forum, it is forum of pashtun disapora who are disconnected from their original countries. News section has minimum participation, if there is news about forexample khyber medical college then nokia, yousafzipashtun and shehbaz may take interest in topic as they live here but those in west would have no idea what is kmc and what the hell is going on in kmc.
When a bannuchi was beaten to death by islami jamiat talba students in peshwaer university then this news was not posted at all on this forum while on pakistani forums it was discussed with more than 40 posts.
Shah hasan khel blast was huge news in which 105 were killed but here only two replies were given to the thread while on paki forum the topic on lakki blast had more than 100 posts.
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What you say is accurate, luffy.
But I'd add, I think all this Bollywood stuff is negative for Pakistan (including KPW). But then it's similar to the Darified culture of a Kandahari Pashtun.
I just consider it amusing how the Pashtuns posting on here cannot consider that they might be less of a Pashtun than a pakified one in KPW, and they consider Pakifiedness to be a bigger evil than Tajikifiedness. As if a Pakistani Pashtun with more links to something from the Panjab than somewhere in Ghor would agree.Last edited by Guest; 04-06-2011, 05:29 AM.
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You can call it a lie to make yourself feel better but that's reality. Paklinks, gupshup, defencepk, pakdef ALL have more Pak Pashtuns participating on it than here. You won't notice their "pashtuness" simply because they're not interested in it. Nor will you recognize their "pashtuness" because their identity is Pakistani 1st (or Muslim) and then ethnicity, or the fact that they won't be able to fully conversate in pashtu. They are ethnic pashtuns, Pakified. The issues in Pakistan are more interesting to them. Like i said, the pashtuns from Pak you get here are mainly nationalists and those more concerned with Pashtun "unity" than those that are concerned about their country, Pakistan. Some can brave the virulent hatred against their country, like Shehbaz and Luffy, most won't.Originally posted by Admin Khan View PostThat's a lie.
Name 1 Forum that has more Pashtun members of Pakistan than PashtunForums itself. I understand that you as a non-Pashtun, would wish that was true, but the reality is far from it. Heck, PashtunForums has even attracted non-Pashtuns of Pakistan such as yourself and many others. We are one people, and it does not matter if a Pashtun is from Pakistan and Afghanistan. At the end of the day, we are one ethnic group. As Tor_Khan said, we are Pashtun/Afghan but this thread was for research purposes only. Oh, and he too hails from the other side of the line. :-)
No one is denying you your ethnic links. Torkhan can say whatever he wants, and be from wherever he wants, he isn't a rep of the majority of Pak Pashtuns. You have a habit of reading way too much into internet personalities and what it translates to in real life. Simply stating that there are more Pak Pashtuns on Paki forums is a fact.
Seems like we get into this all the time.
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lol @ darified kandahariOriginally posted by roadrunner View PostWhat you say is accurate, luffy.
But I'd add, I think all this Bollywood stuff is negative for Pakistan (including KPW). But then it's similar to the Darified culture of a Kandahari Pashtun.
I just consider it amusing how the Pashtuns posting on here cannot consider that they might be less of a Pashtun than a pakified one in KPW, and they consider Pakifiedness to be a bigger evil than Tajikifiedness. As if a Pakistani Pashtun with more links to something from the Panjab than somewhere in Ghor would agree.
u really dont know anything about afg do u.There are people today who think that admitting God’s absolute greatness decreases the value and importance of humans in the creation, as if God and mankind are rivals competing in greatness and power. Meanwhile I feel that whenever our perception of God’s greatness increases, with it we become greater, because we are the creation of a great God.
Sayyid Qutb
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Originally posted by Yousafzai Pakhtun View PostThat is not the point.....if you have noticed even in Paki forums pashtuns are called Pathans ....stupid jokes regarding pathans are posted in each and every forum and they are considered as idiots, ullu key pattey, and even terrorists........a pashtun who doesn't know about Bacha khan, Samad khan achakzai etc are well fit to join those paki forums because you would always find them calling our heroes as Traitors.......a true pashtun will argue with them and at the end of the day he will be banned .....You will find many topics on small incidents and events taken place in islamabad, Lahore, Karachi etc (even you would find a topic on the killing of a dog in the streets of Lahore) but hardly there would be a topic regarding the drone attacks in Waziristan and the killings of innocent pashtuns..........
Ta mata WAGORA Pegham GAWAH awo tol khalak jwandey di
tapos waka
ta chay Halta Cha Janguna karey di ......AWO wos shuker da
sok khu da BAKWAS waki da kabul ya da Pekhwar pa hakala
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ya da PATHAN jok awo nor sa
Awo Wos da Sok okey chay za yam pkay
mannnnnnnnnnnnna.....
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A Dari speaker wanting to learn Pashto should go to Kandahar. He/she will be more at ease with the less rough non kh type of Pashto. The rougher kh type Pashto is spoken by the tribes. There's a lot of good evidence the tribes without the Dari influence are the pure form.Originally posted by randolph85 View Postlol @ darified kandahari
u really dont know anything about afg do u.
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that is when you bring your royal ass in and make it useful. if we don't know about something, we don't know about it. it's not going to come to us in a dream over night.Originally posted by Luffy View PostWhen a bannuchi was beaten to death by islami jamiat talba students in peshwaer university then this news was not posted at all on this forum while on pakistani forums it was discussed with more than 40 posts.
Shah hasan khel blast was huge news in which 105 were killed but here only two replies were given to the thread while on paki forum the topic on lakki blast had more than 100 posts.
I am no bird, and no nest ensnares me.
non commercial would cost less if he was in charge himself which he plans on doing. right now it's n herat but soon it will be in qanadahar.
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and they dont know a ward of pashtu
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