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  • #61
    so why do you keep insisting I am lying or using a bad source? I posted something which shows that Khushal Khan Khattak's son tried to kill him for the Mughals. His own son.

    You can be proud of this fake exaggerated and frankly over-rated history all you want. I want to look to the future. The future is NOT Pashtunwali....the future is science.
    [QUOTE=Afghanistan2010;658085][B]He is no different [COLOR="Red"]than us[/COLOR][/B],[B]he[COLOR="Red"] blindly believes [/COLOR]in the words [COLOR="Red"]of other men[/COLOR][/B],:[/QUOTE]

    2010 Admitting he's a blind believer not in God, but what other men says.

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    • #62
      you cant transfer his sons actions on him plus the alleged "tried to kill" him is false.

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      • #63
        Originally posted by RevolutionThroughReason View Post
        so why do you keep insisting I am lying or using a bad source? I posted something which shows that Khushal Khan Khattak's son tried to kill him for the Mughals. His own son.

        You can be proud of this fake exaggerated and frankly over-rated history all you want. I want to look to the future. The future is NOT Pashtunwali....the future is science.
        wtf is wrong with you ? you keep on hammering on the pashtuns .

        Will you read my posts again and don't try to ignore it .
        U are ignoring many things so please shut up about ur bad source cause you didn show any source at all u moron.
        you are not listening , do you even have a proper mind for your ''science'' to understand my posts?

        Stop this stupid act of you thinkin ur half afghan u know everything about afghans/pashtuns.
        Cause u are full of **** and ur mind is verry low for making such stupid insultings valid against afghans/pashtuns.
        Last edited by Shahidulla; 12-05-2012, 07:48 AM.
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        Pull out your swords and slay anyone that says Pashtun and Afghan are not one. Arabs know this and so do Romans: Afghans are Pashtuns and Pashtuns are Afghans!

        Khushal Khan Khattak (1613–1689) was a prominent Afghan(pashtun) poet, warrior, charismatic personality and tribal chief of the Khattak tribe of the Afghans.He is the first Afghan mentor who presents his theories for the unity of the Afghan resistance against the foreign parts, and the creation of a nation-state.

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        • #64
          Originally posted by khushal View Post
          you cant transfer his sons actions on him plus the alleged "tried to kill" him is false.
          I can say he failed miserably by the fact his own son was willing to sell him out. He ran away ...like a wimp.
          [QUOTE=Afghanistan2010;658085][B]He is no different [COLOR="Red"]than us[/COLOR][/B],[B]he[COLOR="Red"] blindly believes [/COLOR]in the words [COLOR="Red"]of other men[/COLOR][/B],:[/QUOTE]

          2010 Admitting he's a blind believer not in God, but what other men says.

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          • #65
            Originally posted by Shahidulla View Post
            wtf is wrong with you ? you keep on hammering on the pashtuns .

            Will you read my posts again and don't try to ignore it .
            U are ignoring many things so please shut up about ur bad source cause you didn show any source at all u moron.


            Actually I did, I quoted from the same source Khushal (the poster) used, why is it when he posts from those sources its a good source ..and you're jacking off to how Pashtuns are awesome? .....but when I do it point out severe flaws in the Pashtun narrative ...you go into histrionics? talk about emo
            [QUOTE=Afghanistan2010;658085][B]He is no different [COLOR="Red"]than us[/COLOR][/B],[B]he[COLOR="Red"] blindly believes [/COLOR]in the words [COLOR="Red"]of other men[/COLOR][/B],:[/QUOTE]

            2010 Admitting he's a blind believer not in God, but what other men says.

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            • #66
              Originally posted by RevolutionThroughReason View Post
              Actually I did, I quoted from the same source Khushal (the poster) used, why is it when he posts from those sources its a good source ..and you're jacking off to how Pashtuns are awesome? .....but when I do it point out severe flaws in the Pashtun narrative ...you go into histrionics? talk about emo
              then what did you mean lets not call such guys hero's or that ahmad shah abdali was not a good leader, dude (afghans inc me) know more about them then u could ever learn out of a book.And im sure of that every other afghan would wreck your teeths in ur mouth if u said that, cause they know alot more then you.
              You have no ****ing right to mark any afghan leader as not deserving the hero title, Afghans have decided that ahmad shah abdali was a hero, khushal khan,mirwais khan and many more were heroes and they are still till now remaining heroes . People are waiting for such great leaders to come back . You don't have any ****ing idea of what you are saying about afghan leaders so easily, u are just searching for flaw points in some books and changing them to attack our afghan leaders.

              If you talk about afghan leaders then ****ing speak with respect u moron, change ur goal in this forum into critic not hate and insulting.

              lol you did? ye you really did put something else on what he said, you backed it up with bull**** against pashtuns , and don't bother to denie that i already quoted you serveral times of your stupid insulting.

              sever flaws? yes i know , but you also have a problem with afghans/pashuns its clearly u are talking against pashtuns/afghans.
              You are still not getting my point why ignore everything i said?
              and i didn jack anything up lol, u are just an emo . All the hate must be brushed of of emo's like you.
              Youre seeking every flaw point in pashtun/afghan history and ur pulling it out with **** in ur mouth, ur changing factive sentences into calling names.
              it would be better if you just said the facts quotes from the book and not, pashtuns are useless, or khushal khan was a rich bitsch or that ahmad shah abdali was also not a real hero.

              So that means u really are here in this forum to put a hate on afghans/pashtuns. And bitch please try it in reall life.
              Last edited by Shahidulla; 12-05-2012, 12:08 PM.
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              Pull out your swords and slay anyone that says Pashtun and Afghan are not one. Arabs know this and so do Romans: Afghans are Pashtuns and Pashtuns are Afghans!

              Khushal Khan Khattak (1613–1689) was a prominent Afghan(pashtun) poet, warrior, charismatic personality and tribal chief of the Khattak tribe of the Afghans.He is the first Afghan mentor who presents his theories for the unity of the Afghan resistance against the foreign parts, and the creation of a nation-state.

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              • #67
                Originally posted by RevolutionThroughReason View Post
                I can say he failed miserably by the fact his own son was willing to sell him out. He ran away ...like a wimp.
                So the scholars are wrong then? You promoting of nuking pashtuns while claiming to be a prophet is couragous in your cookoo world.

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                • #68
                  Originally posted by Shahidulla View Post
                  then what did you mean lets not call such guys hero's or that ahmad shah abdali was not a good leader
                  Because he's not, he preferred Qizilbsh over Pashtuns, and helped the Persians to remove Pashtun authority over Qandahar.

                  dude (afghans inc me) know more about them then u could ever learn out of a book.
                  That's because you only believe nicely polished easy to digest fairy tales told by our elders to soothe the Pashtun ego, and this over hyped/inflated driven ego makes you think you know something that is only 1/3 fact and 2/3's hot air

                  This is what happens when people are beswad and backwards as is sadly the problem in Pashtun culture today. and why they desperately need education from an early age.

                  .And im sure of that every other afghan would wreck your teeths in ur mouth if u said that
                  More example of typical hot air by the ignorant, sounds like a woman who is having an emotional breakdown and starts flailing her arms violently. That's very emo.

                  You have no ****ing right to mark any afghan leader as not deserving the hero title
                  No sir, YOU have no right to tell me or dictate to me what I'm allowed to say. This is a free society where people are allowed to openly express the TRUTH and not hide their ideas because backwards and insecure idiots cannot cope with them. You're not any authority over me. you can't tell me a damn thing. Either take it or you don't.

                  sever flaws? yes i know , but you also have a problem with afghans/pashuns its clearly u are talking against pashtuns/afghans.
                  Yes I do, we're backwards, uneducated, woman hating, amotivated, gullible, would rather believe false things if they sound good, rather than here the truth if it may seem unpleasant. we don't know how to create a functional society, we live in a hallucination of false glory from the past, which itself was largely misrepresented, we're used as pawns by international entities, and yet we never take responsibility for anything. Just live by a big ego.

                  it's time more people said something about it.


                  And bitch please try it in reall life.
                  or what? you'll continue behaving like a eunuch as you have been this whole time?
                  [QUOTE=Afghanistan2010;658085][B]He is no different [COLOR="Red"]than us[/COLOR][/B],[B]he[COLOR="Red"] blindly believes [/COLOR]in the words [COLOR="Red"]of other men[/COLOR][/B],:[/QUOTE]

                  2010 Admitting he's a blind believer not in God, but what other men says.

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                  • #69
                    Originally posted by khushal View Post
                    So the scholars are wrong then? You promoting of nuking pashtuns while claiming to be a prophet is couragous in your cookoo world.
                    An emotonal opinion is something separable factual analysis.


                    sort of like what you're doing in this post by repeating the same debunked claims you passed forward.
                    [QUOTE=Afghanistan2010;658085][B]He is no different [COLOR="Red"]than us[/COLOR][/B],[B]he[COLOR="Red"] blindly believes [/COLOR]in the words [COLOR="Red"]of other men[/COLOR][/B],:[/QUOTE]

                    2010 Admitting he's a blind believer not in God, but what other men says.

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                    • #70
                      you repeating the same thing about the quizilbash which has been debunked is disfunctional not to mention promoting the idea of nuking pashtuns while claiming to be a prophet. You belong in a mental institution, your cookoo for dismissing Scholars that have far superior intellect than a moron like yourself..

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                      • #71
                        When has the Qizilbash claim been debunked? I just recall you reguritating some statement made by Barakzai, of a document that you never read, And then you gave some nonsensical explanation which I countered by reversing your argument to demonstrate your explanation wouldn't prove anything. How is that debunking again?

                        You seem to believe your creative writing is a "refutation" but the problem is; when you present a case, you have to demonstrate that IS THE ONLY POSSIBLE case and that no other equally valid explanation would suffice. However the existence of Shi'a in an allegedly zealously Sunni environment is falsified by the fact Sunni Ahmad Shah worked with Zealously Shi'a Qizilbash. Checkmate

                        So no there was no debunking of the Qizilbash claim ; just an idiot who keeps trying skirting past a very uncomfortable fact which shoots hole in the Pashtun Narrative of our sadly bogus history.

                        So much like your claims of me claiiming I'm a prophet, something that even FAYE debunked you on .....your current claims are just idiotic delusions.
                        [QUOTE=Afghanistan2010;658085][B]He is no different [COLOR="Red"]than us[/COLOR][/B],[B]he[COLOR="Red"] blindly believes [/COLOR]in the words [COLOR="Red"]of other men[/COLOR][/B],:[/QUOTE]

                        2010 Admitting he's a blind believer not in God, but what other men says.

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                        • #72
                          haha Faye, the mentaly challenged defending the mentaly ill.

                          you never refuted anything. you keep repeating the same thing over and over again. Abdali was nurtured by them but sacked them. It is evident by the sacking of herat and northeastern Iran and incorporating them into the duranni empire and if your claims have any shred of truth, then why were the qizilbash the first to ally themselves with the brits. They considerred the brits their saviors. In fact before the british invasion, the brits armed the persians in a battle that they lost against the afghans which made the brits paranoid to think the russians were already in afghanistan forcing them to invade. your claims are the product of your mental illness sorry to say.
                          Last edited by khushal; 12-05-2012, 11:43 PM.

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                          • #73
                            Originally posted by khushal View Post
                            haha Faye, the mentaly challenged defending the mentaly ill.

                            That's just ad-hominem, and the only mentally ill are people here are people who have delusions of pashtun history and suffer hallucinations of some grandeur that never existed ahem ahem

                            you never refuted anything. you keep repeating the same thing over and over again. Abdali was nurtured by them but sacked them.
                            No he didn't read up; the revolt was by Qizilbash who assasinated Nader Shah Qoli, until then, he had zero ambitions, he merely wanted to serve Nader Shah.



                            It is evident by the sacking of herat and northeastern Iran and incorporating them into the duranni empire and if your claims have any shred of truth,
                            wrong, he was trying to prevent other Qizilbash from rebelling against Nader Shah's state, he never "sacked" Herat, do you know what the word sacking means? he reclaimed it from the Qizilbash rebels, he didn't go further west because the Pashtun tribe were revolting he wanted to squash that.



                            then why were the qizilbash the first to ally themselves with the brits

                            People love power, whoever offers them a chance of greater power wins out

                            . They considerred the brits their saviors
                            .

                            That's the Hazaras not the Qizilbash.


                            In fact before the british invasion, the brits armed the persians in a battle that they lost against the afghans which made the brits paranoid to think the russians were already in afghanistan forcing them to invade. your claims are the product of your mental illness sorry to say.

                            you're on a tangent



                            in summary you're wrong.
                            [QUOTE=Afghanistan2010;658085][B]He is no different [COLOR="Red"]than us[/COLOR][/B],[B]he[COLOR="Red"] blindly believes [/COLOR]in the words [COLOR="Red"]of other men[/COLOR][/B],:[/QUOTE]

                            2010 Admitting he's a blind believer not in God, but what other men says.

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                            • #74
                              qizilbash and hazaras were allies you dumbass. He took Herat from Nadir Shahs grandson by force, man your stupid. And your contradicting yourself, on one hand your saying he created a qizilbash centric state and on the other hand your stating that he squashed qizilbash rebellions.
                              Last edited by khushal; 12-07-2012, 02:52 PM.

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                              • #75
                                Originally posted by RevolutionThroughReason View Post
                                Because he's not, he preferred Qizilbsh over Pashtuns, and helped the Persians to remove Pashtun authority over Qandahar.



                                That's because you only believe nicely polished easy to digest fairy tales told by our elders to soothe the Pashtun ego, and this over hyped/inflated driven ego makes you think you know something that is only 1/3 fact and 2/3's hot air

                                This is what happens when people are beswad and backwards as is sadly the problem in Pashtun culture today. and why they desperately need education from an early age.



                                More example of typical hot air by the ignorant, sounds like a woman who is having an emotional breakdown and starts flailing her arms violently. That's very emo.



                                No sir, YOU have no right to tell me or dictate to me what I'm allowed to say. This is a free society where people are allowed to openly express the TRUTH and not hide their ideas because backwards and insecure idiots cannot cope with them. You're not any authority over me. you can't tell me a damn thing. Either take it or you don't.



                                Yes I do, wekere backwards, uneducated, woman hating, amotivated, gullible, would rather believe false things if they sound good, rather than here the truth if it may seem unpleasant. we don't know how to create a functional society, we live in a hallucination of false glory from the past, which itself was largely misrepresented, we're used as pawns by international entities, and yet we never take responsibility for anything. Just live by a big ego.

                                it's time more people said something about it.




                                or what? you'll continue behaving like a eunuch as you have been this whole time?
                                nah il continue bringing of that emo behavior and hate against afghans/pashtuns away from your cheap filled mind, which has nothing to deliver but only saying backward things about pashtuns. Its not a false glory our previous leaders were hero's, history has proven that and u are just a virus sneaking in into their background facts and try to make direclty a statement that :

                                were backwards, uneducated, woman hating, amotivated, gullible, would rather believe false things if they sound good, rather than here the truth if it may seem unpleasant. we don't know how to create a functional society, we live in a hallucination of false glory from the past, which itself was largely misrepresented, we're used as pawns by international entities, and yet we never take responsibility for anything.

                                but the fact is afghans were never leaved alone invasion after invasion , and our leader which u are insulting they tried not to bow their head, infact they did but as soon as they gained enough power they destroyd them.

                                youre a a psyco, you talk easily and mark too easily you should learn way more about afghans, in the first place you shouldve talked about critic only on afghans but i saw u were insulting that means u were blinded by ur emo attack.

                                THEN ****ING TELL ME WHO THE **** TOLD YOU TO TALK ABOUT AFGHANS/PASHTUNS IN SUCH AN INSULTING WAY AND INSULT OUR LEADERS?

                                Ur parents? UR DEAR BOOK? Did u ever go to afghanistan and asked people there?or wait why would you hate them so much. 1 thing is sure that i know u don't know much enough about afghans, maybe u do about turks but not afghans my dear friends.
                                Last edited by Shahidulla; 12-06-2012, 04:25 AM.
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                                Pull out your swords and slay anyone that says Pashtun and Afghan are not one. Arabs know this and so do Romans: Afghans are Pashtuns and Pashtuns are Afghans!

                                Khushal Khan Khattak (1613–1689) was a prominent Afghan(pashtun) poet, warrior, charismatic personality and tribal chief of the Khattak tribe of the Afghans.He is the first Afghan mentor who presents his theories for the unity of the Afghan resistance against the foreign parts, and the creation of a nation-state.

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