Pashtun Marriage problem (need advice)

[gadoonwal]

@gadoonwal saab,

I did not mean to post this video to insult anyone. There are many Punjabi ladies that are bad too.

I just want these idiots to realize that they cannot find salvation in race, alone.The problem with Pashtuns is that they think anyone that is Pashtun is good, while others are bad.

I have to confess as a Punjabi, do you believe I think all Punjabis are ferishta?
I hate many Punjabis even though we share same language and culture. Every person is different.

There is no point in judging someone by what they cannot control. But you can judge people by their actions.

Bus.

Thats right.
A normal person with brain functioning would understand that pukthoons are human.Those who do not accept reality are coward.
Pashtuns are not angels but most pukhtanay are loyal,modest and respected.
They will die but would never go for hindu or even non-pashtun man.
If this girl ahmadzai is in my area wallah she will be killed along with her begerat family.
I wonder where are her brothers and other family members.
These kabalyan watched her wedding with hindu with great pleasure.
Watch her video with this southren hindu.
This is i called the influence of persain culture.
The pure pukhtoon of afghanistan are like us and gertmand.
We have kunari,paktyawal and other pashtuns from afghanistan honestly there is day and night differance among pure puhktoons and half breed.

[afghan]

she is sebra ahmadzai a pashtana not hindu.
Many afghans can speak hindi.
She is muslim pashtana fall in love with hindu.
That hindu soldier fooled her and refuse to convert to islam.
Lets be realistic and be brave to face the truth.
Pashtuns are human like others.She did ,,bepathi,, and benangi but a good and bad are everywhere.
All i can say she should be ashamed of her relation with hindu.This dose,nt mean all kabaly-pashtanay are like that.
Most pashtanay are loyal and modest.
A pashtun honour is same no matter anyside or area.
a pashtun is pashtun thats all i know.

Lol you get so emotional, i don't know her personally, just listened to the video that she was brought up in pakistan. and trust me there are many very honourable hindos in afghanistan far better than so called pashtuns. this girl can marry anybody she wants she isn't my sister or related to me. But for sure she is looking for something else. she is meeting ministers and ambassadors and journalists. why she doesn't go and talk to his family members and the man himself.
If she is a muslim what does she want from a hindo man? after she found out. what does islam says about that? why she doesn't have any relatives besides her? if she is a pashtun or afghan?Ahmadzai are all over the world now not necessarily she is a pashtun.

[Loy Afghanistan]

You sir are screwed up in the head. I don't get why you have to call us Hindu Muslim or Panj baboons Muslims. Just because I am from Karachi, makes me a Hindu? Do you know how absurd that sounds?

I respect that you believe that Pashtun should stay within their community, but reality is that with modernization people are moving out of this way of thinking. People are realizing that the value of culture is not as important as the value of religion. At the end of the day when you are in front of Allah on the day of judgement, he will not ask what you did for the Pashtun community, he will ask what good deeds you did and assess whether you were a good Muslim. Your good deeds and sins will be calculated and according to that you will either go to heaven or hell. Your ideology of embracing Pashtun community will not aid you in any way. Trying to put other people down will only bring you closer to the fire of hell.

I find it funny how you are talking about the Y-chromosome as if continuing a blood line is in the hands of mere humans. Allah decides the fate of humans, long before they are even born. If a Pashtun gets married to a "hindu-muslim" as you call it, then it is not the dishonor of a Pashtun, rather it is the blessing of Allah that they were destined for each other.

So next time you decide to call someone a Hindu-Muslim or Panj baboon Muslim, I'd like you to remember that you are not superior to us in any way. When day of judgement comes you will be assessed in the same way as we will be. You will not be given special treatment just because you belonged to a Pashtun community.

I hope you can learn to respect "Hindi-Muslims" and "Panj baboon Muslims" not for where they are from, rather for the reason that they are the same religion as you. Ideally, it should not even matter, you should treat all humans equally and with respect.

Please, did you really brought up Islam??? First of all you live in biggest kuffr country, gay porn loving smelly fags. Paki hindu-panj baboons are against Sharia and Islam. We need to bring Jehad on Islamabad so we can have strict Sharia law in whole Pakistan. Those who oppose Sharia law/Islam is kuffrs and need to be dealt with.

I will make project so we can donate as much of money to Mujahedding to bring Sharia law/100 % Islam to Pakis. You want to argue against Qur'an? be by guess, it will just make my point more clear.

Like I said, we don't talk about Panj babbons/ hindu culture who they should marry or not, you should stay out from Pashtun culture/traditions, who we should marry or not, it is we the 60 million community that does that. 99 % of Pashtuns follow this, let them be moderate or not, they follow their ancient traditions and culture. When someone step outside this, they become outsiders by 99 % of whole community doesn't even like to look at them or do anything with them.

[Loy Afghanistan]

if you just a muslim than in your introduction why did you mention you were a muhajir from india. typical paki response is when a paki has no other way out they grab Islam and give u lecture about islamic bhaichara .

btw why do you specifically want to marry a pathan , dont you like your own kind?

He makes a investment on his kids, because he is tired of buying white skin cream all the time, it COST SO MUCH. You know in their culture and traditions if you are light skin you get privileged, better job, better chances in society, no discrimination etc.

With lighter kids more successful, and he can retire easier. I hope you have been in those area. panj baboons, hindus etc in whole Hindustan (all former hindu provinces) still have this mindset. That's is because they buy white skin cream. This is HARAM. No wonder why gay porn nr 1 one Pakistan, these men are gays and fags. make up and this kind of stuff.

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THIS IS PAKISTAN! AND PAKISTANIS, LOOK AT THEIR WEEDING, CULTURE, TALK, LOOKS. Those Pashtuns call themselves pakis, means they follow this mindset and this kind of culture and traditions. Because that is what pakis means to themselves and the rest of the world.

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[Da Bannu Mazdigar]

You sir are screwed up in the head. I don't get why you have to call us Hindu Muslim or Panj baboons Muslims. Just because I am from Karachi, makes me a Hindu? Do you know how absurd that sounds?

I respect that you believe that Pashtun should stay within their community, but reality is that with modernization people are moving out of this way of thinking. People are realizing that the value of culture is not as important as the value of religion. At the end of the day when you are in front of Allah on the day of judgement, he will not ask what you did for the Pashtun community, he will ask what good deeds you did and assess whether you were a good Muslim. Your good deeds and sins will be calculated and according to that you will either go to heaven or hell. Your ideology of embracing Pashtun community will not aid you in any way. Trying to put other people down will only bring you closer to the fire of hell.

I find it funny how you are talking about the Y-chromosome as if continuing a blood line is in the hands of mere humans. Allah decides the fate of humans, long before they are even born. If a Pashtun gets married to a "hindu-muslim" as you call it, then it is not the dishonor of a Pashtun, rather it is the blessing of Allah that they were destined for each other.

So next time you decide to call someone a Hindu-Muslim or Panj baboon Muslim, I'd like you to remember that you are not superior to us in any way. When day of judgement comes you will be assessed in the same way as we will be. You will not be given special treatment just because you belonged to a Pashtun community.

I hope you can learn to respect "Hindi-Muslims" and "Panj baboon Muslims" not for where they are from, rather for the reason that they are the same religion as you. Ideally, it should not even matter, you should treat all humans equally and with respect.

proud of you brother.

We should treat everyones equal irrespective of his religion let alone nationality or ethnicity.

We are humans first.

It makes me really happy that if Pakistani pashtuns even living in Pakistani are more secular and human than similar from Afghanistan even born and raised in the west.

Even though Pakistan is still conservative society but for Afghanistan it will take atleast 5 decades more to reach Where Pakistan is now and for Pakistan atleast 2 decades more to reach Where turkey is now

[Loy Afghanistan]

proud of you brother.

We should treat everyones equal irrespective of his religion let alone nationality or ethnicity.

We are humans first.

It makes me really happy that if Pakistani pashtuns even living in Pakistani are more secular and human than similar from Afghanistan even born and raised in the west.

Even though Pakistan is still conservative society but for Afghanistan it will take atleast 5 decades more to reach Where Pakistan is now and for Pakistan atleast 2 decades more to reach Where turkey is now

Please don't SAY THAT YOU CALLED Pashtuns that doesn't live in "pakistan" for animals. Because you said, Pashtuns in "Pakistan" is more human than other Pashtuns. You know you can't be more human than human! It means hypothetical you call other Pashtuns for Animals. Tooba tobaa. But what can we expect for a poor kuni that doesn't follow Sharia law/Islam and is anti Islam.

It will be the most joy for that Pashtuns who will punish you for a loooong time before he let you go, without your legs and arms. Inshallah!

It shows what kind of fake/traitors wannabe Pashtuns we have in this world.

[Da Bannu Mazdigar]

Please don't SAY THAT YOU CALLED Pashtuns that doesn't live in "pakistan" for animals. Because you said, Pashtuns in "Pakistan" is more human than other Pashtuns. You know you can't be more human than human! It means hypothetical you call other Pashtuns for Animals. Tooba tobaa. But what can we expect for a poor kuni that doesn't follow Sharia law/Islam and is anti Islam.

It will be the most joy for that Pashtuns who will punish you for a loooong time before he let you go, without your legs and arms. Inshallah!

It shows what kind of fake/traitors wannabe Pashtuns we have in this world.

typo.i meant humane.

You dont even know pashto.and please stop giving me lecture about Islam and pashtuns.since in both i am superior to you.

Their is no comparision between a Wazir and Pavanda

[HalloIsBack]

you feel stalked by me? hmmmmm
why do you follow me? you stalke me!
i don't care about your looking and wealthy

[Niceguy91]

He makes a investment on his kids, because he is tired of buying white skin cream all the time, it COST SO MUCH. You know in their culture and traditions if you are light skin you get privileged, better job, better chances in society, no discrimination etc.

With lighter kids more successful, and he can retire easier. I hope you have been in those area. panj baboons, hindus etc in whole Hindustan (all former hindu provinces) still have this mindset. That's is because they buy white skin cream. This is HARAM. No wonder why gay porn nr 1 one Pakistan, these men are gays and fags. make up and this kind of stuff.

http://youtu.be/B-UzOeuclVM

THIS IS PAKISTAN! AND PAKISTANIS, LOOK AT THEIR WEEDING, CULTURE, TALK, LOOKS. Those Pashtuns call themselves pakis, means they follow this mindset and this kind of culture and traditions. Because that is what pakis means to themselves and the rest of the world.


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Funny how you say that, like there aren't light skin people from Karachi right? I am light skinned, since my grandpa was from Afghanistan and he married an Urdu speaking woman, but yea go on what ever makes you happy. I honestly find no point in arguing with you anymore, you obviously have a mindset that is backward and have a racist way of thinking. So yea go on rage all you want, while I sit here with laugh at your posts with my pukhtun girlfriend. I can even say her family isn't as backwards as you are haha.

[Loy Afghanistan]

Funny how you say that, like there aren't light skin people from Karachi right? I am light skinned, since my grandpa was from Afghanistan and he married an Urdu speaking woman, but yea go on what ever makes you happy. I honestly find no point in arguing with you anymore, you obviously have a mindset that is backward and have a racist way of thinking. So yea go on rage all you want, while I sit here with laugh at your posts with my pukhtun girlfriend. I can even say her family isn't as backwards as you are haha.

Karaci is Pasthun dominated city, you will find most light skinned people there. Panj baboons are not light skinned people. This is not about skin, this is about mentally, culture and traditions. Pashtuns should marry Pashtuns only, this has been since forever, no debate over this. No one have the right to talk about our affairs.

Okey, easy with the words now. In Pashtun culture, there is no girlfriend, boyfriend ****. You calling me backwards, 8000 years of strong culture ties and traditions evolving backwards? So tell me more about you new western lifestyle, how forward it is? Nice with disco, fairness, young couple getting pregnant, drugs, alcohol, SO MUCH disgusting diseases etc. I am so jealous on haramzadagi, boyfriend, girlfriend stuff. Please, calm down. 99% of Pashtuns would spit on your face, 80 % would beat you down, 10 % would slaughter you even dare to speak about "pashtun girlfriend".

This is what I mean, this is what I am afraid of. Girlfriend? Do you think if someone else will marry her if they find out she had a mix raced Hindu-panjbaboon-urdu boyfriend?? Stupid cunt, you may now destroyed one of our Pashtun sisters life. I hope her parents finds a beautiful Pashtun boy for her and FAST!!

[Niceguy91]

Karaci is Pasthun dominated city, you will find most light skinned people there. Panj baboons are not light skinned people. This is not about skin, this is about mentally, culture and traditions. Pashtuns should marry Pashtuns only, this has been since forever, no debate over this. No one have the right to talk about our affairs.

Okey, easy with the words now. In Pashtun culture, there is no girlfriend, boyfriend ****. You calling me backwards, 8000 years of strong culture ties and traditions evolving backwards? So tell me more about you new western lifestyle, how forward it is? Nice with disco, fairness, young couple getting pregnant, drugs, alcohol, SO MUCH disgusting diseases etc. I am so jealous on haramzadagi, boyfriend, girlfriend stuff. Please, calm down. 99% of Pashtuns would spit on your face, 80 % would beat you down, 10 % would slaughter you even dare to speak about "pashtun girlfriend".

This is what I mean, this is what I am afraid of. Girlfriend? Do you think if someone else will marry her if they find out she had a mix raced Hindu-panjbaboon-urdu boyfriend?? Stupid cunt, you may now destroyed one of our Pashtun sisters life. I hope her parents finds a beautiful Pashtun boy for her and FAST!!

Yea, just because we live in the western hemisphere we all go to discos, get girls pregnant, do alcohol and contract disgusting diseases right? There is no logic behind your assumption. You need to come over to the western world and see it for your self that there are good Muslims over here too. Lol ruined your Pashtun sisters life lol. We have Afghani girls here getting married to white guys and Afghan guys getting married to Caribbean and Spanish girls. Before you get all judgmental about "hindu-panjbaboons" you need to look at your own people first. I actally have few Afghan and Pukhton friends who consider the chicken from McDonalds okay to eat. Instead of telling "outsiders" not to come in, maybe you should educate your "insiders" not to go out or actually eat halal food. How is that for a thought? Pukhtoons here go to school with different type of people, they work with different type of people. Through this they learn to respect one another. You will never know how it is here, unless you were here. Sure you can run your ideologies in Pakistan where there is segregation among people but here everyone lives together.

[Loy Afghanistan]

Yea, just because we live in the western hemisphere we all go to discos, get girls pregnant, do alcohol and contract disgusting diseases right? There is no logic behind your assumption. You need to come over to the western world and see it for your self that there are good Muslims over here too. Lol ruined your Pashtun sisters life lol. We have Afghani girls here getting married to white guys and Afghan guys getting married to Caribbean and Spanish girls. Before you get all judgmental about "hindu-panjbaboons" you need to look at your own people first. I actally have few Afghan and Pukhton friends who consider the chicken from McDonalds okay to eat. Instead of telling "outsiders" not to come in, maybe you should educate your "insiders" not to go out or actually eat halal food. How is that for a thought? Pukhtoons here go to school with different type of people, they work with different type of people. Through this they learn to respect one another. You will never know how it is here, unless you were here. Sure you can run your ideologies in Pakistan where there is segregation among people but here everyone lives together.

I will make myself short. First of all you have no business in the traditions and ways of Pashtuns. Second you coward must come to PF to ask for guidelines, if you were a true MAN, a true guy with some ghairat, you would go to her parents the first time you felt something for your "girlfriend". You are no Pashtun, respect that please, stop being barbaric and force other your values on our community and society we don't do it to your community.

Second, way the rare few Afghan/Pashtun does this? Is because they are uneducated about their roots, identity loss and don't live under Pashtunwali and Pashtuns laws. If they were educated to fully in Pashtun culture, and traditions like we the few are, they would not go marry outsiders and the girls would behave like true Pashtun girls. I advocate not only for girls but for boys as well, I hate unequal men dominated society, I want my Pashtun sisters be the equal warrior type righteousness they were before these dark ages. If someone behave bad towards them, they shall have the courage and power to silence that dog herself with the weapon of choice.

[Niceguy91]

I will make myself short. First of all you have no business in the traditions and ways of Pashtuns. Second you coward must come to PF to ask for guidelines, if you were a true MAN, a true guy with some ghairat, you would go to her parents the first time you felt something for your "girlfriend". You are no Pashtun, respect that please, stop being barbaric and force other your values on our community and society we don't do it to your community.

Second, way the rare few Afghan/Pashtun does this? Is because they are uneducated about their roots, identity loss and don't live under Pashtunwali and Pashtuns laws. If they were educated to fully in Pashtun culture, and traditions like we the few are, they would not go marry outsiders and the girls would behave like true Pashtun girls. I advocate not only for girls but for boys as well, I hate unequal men dominated society, I want my Pashtun sisters be the equal warrior type righteousness they were before these dark ages. If someone behave bad towards them, they shall have the courage and power to silence that dog herself with the weapon of choice.

First of all I am in no way interfering with your culture. Secondly, I do have the guts to go to my girlfriends parents and ask for her hand in marriage, but she said right now is not the right time and I should wait a year and by that time she will be done her education. This is why I came here for advice that when I do go meet them, how can I create a positive image that their daughter is with a good guy. Third, I never claimed to be a Pashtun and am not enforcing anything on your people. You do not understand that in the western world no one really cares about the culture, rather people prefer their children to get married to people who speak the same language. Even my parents prefer me to get married to an Urdu speaking female but above that they want me to get married to a Muslim woman.

Who said your Pashtun sisters are not treated as equal? My girlfriend and I make mutually decided decisions and do not try to empower each other.

Lastly, I do respect the ways of your society, but it does not mean that everyone should follow that way. People here in the western world have left their home ideologies in the past and moving towards a more religious oriented lifestyle. I have seen afghans marry Urdu speaking Pakistanis, I have seen afghans marry Muslims from Trinidad. I have seen Punjabi Pakistani get married to Pukhtoon and even Panjabi Pakistani married to Indian Muslims. When people come to the western world and realize that Muslims are a minority here, we learn to live peacefully with each other and accept each other for who we are. This will not be the first time in history that a Pukhtoon woman got married to an Urdu speaking male, life goes on.

[DaZahroJaam.]

I will make myself short. First of all you have no business in the traditions and ways of Pashtuns. Second you coward must come to PF to ask for guidelines, if you were a true MAN, a true guy with some ghairat, you would go to her parents the first time you felt something for your "girlfriend". You are no Pashtun, respect that please, stop being barbaric and force other your values on our community and society we don't do it to your community.

Second, way the rare few Afghan/Pashtun does this? Is because they are uneducated about their roots, identity loss and don't live under Pashtunwali and Pashtuns laws. If they were educated to fully in Pashtun culture, and traditions like we the few are, they would not go marry outsiders and the girls would behave like true Pashtun girls. I advocate not only for girls but for boys as well, I hate unequal men dominated society, I want my Pashtun sisters be the equal warrior type righteousness they were before these dark ages. If someone behave bad towards them, they shall have the courage and power to silence that dog herself with the weapon of choice.

[Karachi]

First of all I am in no way interfering with your culture. Secondly, I do have the guts to go to my girlfriends parents and ask for her hand in marriage, but she said right now is not the right time and I should wait a year and by that time she will be done her education. This is why I came here for advice that when I do go meet them, how can I create a positive image that their daughter is with a good guy. Third, I never claimed to be a Pashtun and am not enforcing anything on your people. You do not understand that in the western world no one really cares about the culture, rather people prefer their children to get married to people who speak the same language. Even my parents prefer me to get married to an Urdu speaking female but above that they want me to get married to a Muslim woman.

Who said your Pashtun sisters are not treated as equal? My girlfriend and I make mutually decided decisions and do not try to empower each other.

Lastly, I do respect the ways of your society, but it does not mean that everyone should follow that way. People here in the western world have left their home ideologies in the past and moving towards a more religious oriented lifestyle. I have seen afghans marry Urdu speaking Pakistanis, I have seen afghans marry Muslims from Trinidad. I have seen Punjabi Pakistani get married to Pukhtoon and even Panjabi Pakistani married to Indian Muslims. When people come to the western world and realize that Muslims are a minority here, we learn to live peacefully with each other and accept each other for who we are. This will not be the first time in history that a Pukhtoon woman got married to an Urdu speaking male, life goes on.

I actually agree with Loy Afghanistan in this. You know in our societies having Boyfriend/Girlfriend relation is a big no no and taboo, yet you have the nerves too date a girl for a year without even telling your or her parents. This is a really bad thing you did on your part. It's not a matter of race/ethnicity but a matter of having a relationship before marriage. You are calling yourself muslim, yet you are doing the opposite by having a girlfriend for a year. If you liked the girl, you should have approached your parents and her parents long ago, yet you didn't. Know anything can happen. I am sorry, you could even loose her because of your mistake