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  • #76
    Originally posted by Mayana View Post
    Oh I see what you're trying to say.
    You're using 'nor' to introduce a chain of actions, such as:
    I read a book. Also, I ate an apple, went for a walk and talked to XY.
    In that sense, yes, 'nor' would make sense as it'd mean "furthermore" if you are introducing a chain of actions rather than just one action. But then again, that might just be our dialect. If you say that 'nor' is what you've heard people around you use for 'then', I'll take your word for it.
    Bear in mind, Pakhtano speak really fast so I mix stuff up a lot LOL; I could be totally wrong and if I ask my dad he might say that's not what he said.

    Don't blame your dialect, blame my ignorance

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    • #77
      [QUOTE=graveyardofempires;317778]
      Originally posted by ScimitarXEdge View Post
      ok based on my understanding of the usage of "nor"

      it means "more over" like "in addition" not simply just "more"

      and yes "no" seems to imply "thus" or "so on", I don't hear "bia" except in more farsi influenced dialects like in the Qandahari one.

      Well that's cool you seem to have a very cogent analysis of them.

      like once I heard my dad say something like "no khpel wak sa mi jorr wakarr", so I understood "no" ; "and such"

      also on the phone he might say "nor staso khabaro chishi di?"[/QUOTE
      nor means others(other peole or things) or when you say anything else you say nor se when you say other people it is nor sok.NO means so No se ba wekoo=so what should we do.it also means thus .
      bia has nothing to do with farsi ,it is pashto lughat.
      bia or as we in the east say bay means again:bay dey da kar weko?have you done it again?

      what does your last sentence in pashto mean?
      the last sentence means so what other news is there? something to that effect.

      I've heard Bia in farsi so I don't know. My dad is Pakhtoon but he can speak Dari too.

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      • #78
        Originally posted by ScimitarXEdge View Post

        the last sentence means so what other news is there? something to that effect.

        I've heard Bia in farsi so I don't know. My dad is Pakhtoon but he can speak Dari too.

        Biaa in Farsi/Dari means "Come!"
        Biaa in Pashto means "then"

        Daa zma lewanay Zrra gorah, daa sta lewanee Mina..
        Za ba da Sahra warnakam da Iran pa Golestan,
        Dalta za yao & yakta yam, halta zar zma pa Shaan
        .

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        • #79
          Originally posted by Mayana View Post

          Biaa in Farsi/Dari means "Come!"
          Biaa in Pashto means "then"
          is it borrowed from Dari?

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          • #80
            Originally posted by ScimitarXEdge View Post
            is it borrowed from Dari?
            no

            nor se khaberey dey
            nor kom khabar dey

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            • #81
              is your father from Kandahar?

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              • #82
                Originally posted by graveyardofempires View Post
                is your father from Kandahar?
                Ghazni

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                • #83
                  Originally posted by graveyardofempires View Post
                  no

                  nor se khaberey dey
                  nor kom khabar dey
                  Staso Khabaro is plural possessive

                  kom means which, from what I know. like "kom zai dai?"

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                  • #84
                    Originally posted by ScimitarXEdge View Post
                    is it borrowed from Dari?
                    No, as far as I know, it is not.. because the word has two distinct meanings in the two different languages.

                    And yes, you're very right, 'kom' means 'which.

                    Daa zma lewanay Zrra gorah, daa sta lewanee Mina..
                    Za ba da Sahra warnakam da Iran pa Golestan,
                    Dalta za yao & yakta yam, halta zar zma pa Shaan
                    .

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                    • #85
                      How would you say:

                      Like if someone says to you "Tsë khabari di"? How would you replay?
                      I think I would say "Ze______Ghoram" is that correct?

                      "What do you wanna do"
                      "I would like to _____"

                      "are you going to _____"
                      "yes/no, i am going/not going there"

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                      • #86
                        Originally posted by Mayana View Post
                        No, as far as I know, it is not.. because the word has two distinct meanings in the two different languages.

                        And yes, you're very right, 'kom' means 'which.
                        fair enough; but I also notice in Pakhto the use of Arabic words in ways which are not the original meaning.

                        for example Khair in Arabic is an adjective mainly, but in Pakhto it's used mainly as a noun. like PA Khairoona, Arabic has the same thing like "Bi-Khair" Insha'Allah biKhair, but more commonly it's used like this "jami3ah khairah" (best university)

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                        • #87
                          Originally posted by Idiot View Post
                          How would you say:

                          Like if someone says to you "Tsë khabari di"? How would you replay?
                          I think I would say "Ze______Ghoram" is that correct?

                          "What do you wanna do"
                          "I would like to _____"

                          "are you going to _____"
                          "yes/no, i am going/not going there"

                          Tsa Khabari di? ~ What's up?/ What's going on?

                          I would just replay, "Hets, Khair au Khairyat day." as in "nothing much" - or, of course, tell them what's going on lol

                          Za _____ ghoarram - I want _____
                          Za ghoarram chi ______ - I want to _____



                          _______ ta zeh? - Are you going to _____ (place)?
                          Wo/ho, _______ ta zam. - Yes, I am going to ____
                          Ya'a, ______ ta nazam. - No, I am not going to _____
                          (Note that ta here means "to")

                          Last edited by Mayana; 01-17-2011, 07:39 PM.

                          Daa zma lewanay Zrra gorah, daa sta lewanee Mina..
                          Za ba da Sahra warnakam da Iran pa Golestan,
                          Dalta za yao & yakta yam, halta zar zma pa Shaan
                          .

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                          • #88
                            Originally posted by ScimitarXEdge View Post
                            fair enough; but I also notice in Pakhto the use of Arabic words in ways which are not the original meaning.

                            for example Khair in Arabic is an adjective mainly, but in Pakhto it's used mainly as a noun. like PA Khairoona, Arabic has the same thing like "Bi-Khair" Insha'Allah biKhair, but more commonly it's used like this "jami3ah khairah" (best university)
                            Yes, you're right, we use many words from different languages and alter/reduce their meaning.
                            Solha means peace and nothing else although I was told that it has other meanings in Dari/Arabic as well.
                            Salam means 'hello' and nothing else, while in Arabic it clearly has a different meaning.

                            But, I guess, that happens in every language, I mean just open an English dictionary lol

                            Daa zma lewanay Zrra gorah, daa sta lewanee Mina..
                            Za ba da Sahra warnakam da Iran pa Golestan,
                            Dalta za yao & yakta yam, halta zar zma pa Shaan
                            .

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                            • #89
                              Originally posted by Idiot View Post
                              How would you say:

                              Like if someone says to you "Tsë khabari di"? How would you replay?
                              I think I would say "Ze______Ghoram" is that correct?

                              "What do you wanna do"
                              "I would like to _____"

                              "are you going to _____"
                              "yes/no, i am going/not going there"
                              hits khabarey nishta or " kha khabarey shta" or " tola kha di"

                              Ghoram or Ghwarum means "I want"

                              What do you want to do= ta chishi ghwarey chi kawey? (I'm probably wrong on this one)

                              "za ghwarum chi staso sara khabari kawum" = I want to converse with you guys"

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                              • #90
                                Originally posted by ScimitarXEdge View Post
                                hits khabarey nishta or " kha khabarey shta" or " tola kha di"

                                Ghoram or Ghwarum means "I want"

                                What do you want to do= ta chishi ghwarey chi wakeh? (I'm probably wrong on this one)

                                "za ghwarum chi staso sara khabari wakam" = I want to converse with you guys"

                                With verbs that express wishes, possibilities, necessity, doubts, emotions etc. the subjunctive sense has to be used.. just like in French or Spanish.. maybe in Arabic as well? I'm not sure, I don't speak Arabic lol

                                Daa zma lewanay Zrra gorah, daa sta lewanee Mina..
                                Za ba da Sahra warnakam da Iran pa Golestan,
                                Dalta za yao & yakta yam, halta zar zma pa Shaan
                                .

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