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  • #16
    In 58 Muslim countries and thousands of ethnic groups why the hell only Pashtuns have to be devout Muslims and have to be the so called Mujahideen or Taliban.This is what I am crying at.

    My aim and goal is to make Pashtuns like Tajiks, Uzbeks, Panjabis, Turks, Balochs even Arabs who practise religion as a spiritual activity but does not make it a political , economic , cultural or social cause.

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    • #17
      i think osho, that just 1 civillian death caused by foreign forces would create at least 1 more person who wants to fight against the invaders. father, cousin, brother, son etc, of the deceased.

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      • #18
        Originally posted by osho View Post
        In 58 Muslim countries and thousands of ethnic groups why the hell only Pashtuns have to be devout Muslims and have to be the so called Mujahideen or Taliban.This is what I am crying at.

        My aim and goal is to make Pashtuns like Tajiks, Uzbeks, Panjabis, Turks, Balochs even Arabs who practise religion as a spiritual activity but does not make it a political , economic , cultural or social cause.

        We are proud of being the most brave and most devout Muslims.

        The entire Muslim world salutes us for our courage and bravery.
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        • #19
          Originally posted by faye View Post
          i think osho, that just 1 civillian death caused by foreign forces would create at least 1 more person who wants to fight against the invaders. father, cousin, brother, son etc, of the deceased.
          Again we confuse the war on Terror with invasion or occupation. Afghanistan has an elected government and the foreign forces are there with the consent of the government and the elected parliament. Its not an invasion. they are not occupying forces. They are fighting against the common enemy. The ruler of Afghanistan is not Obama but Karzai.

          If a talib dies and his family is also talib then its understandable. The son of enemy can be enemy. Innocent first should not be killed but if killed then its the collateral efect of a war and to avoid such casualties the international forces are not launching a full scale war but have limited combat zones.

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          • #20
            Originally posted by شمله ور خراساني View Post
            We are proud of being the most brave and most devout Muslims.

            The entire Muslim world salutes us for our courage and bravery.
            This false sense of grandeur is destroying Pashtuns. The whole Muslim world does not salute us but consider the allies of Alqaida and taliban as wild beasts and stupids who have provided the only refuge to these terrorists and where the violent extremist Islam is in vogue. Why they dont have this in other Muslim countries why only in Pashtunland.

            We are one of the most impoverished, backward, underdeveloped, illiterate people of the world and others instead of saluting us may help us that we become great nations like others not just a terrorist, obscurantist bunch of indivisuals.
            Last edited by Badlun; 02-15-2011, 09:01 AM.

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            • #21
              Originally posted by osho View Post
              This false sense of grandeur is destroying Pashtuns. The whole Muslim does not salute us but consider the allies of Alqaida and taliban as wild beasts and stupids who have provided the only refuge to these terrorists and where the violent extremist Islam is in vogue. Why they dont have this in other Muslim countries why only in Pashtunland.

              We are one of the most impoverished, backward, underdeveloped, illiterate people of the world and others instead of saluting us may help us that we become great nations like others not just a terrorist, obscurantist bunch of indivisuals.
              you are the actual terrorist supporter here ms/mr.

              you are supporting terrorising pukhtane,you support rape of pukhtun women,you support invasion of pukhtunlands,you support terrorists who wipe out villages.you are nothing more than a filthy mouthpice for emperialist who have an agenda of subdueing the afghan nation and use Afghans as their slaves.
              shame on you

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              • #22
                Originally posted by graveyardofempires View Post
                you are the actual terrorist supporter here ms/mr.

                you are supporting terrorising pukhtane,you support rape of pukhtun women,you support invasion of pukhtunlands,you support terrorists who wipe out villages.you are nothing more than a filthy mouthpice for emperialist who have an agenda of subdueing the afghan nation and use Afghans as their slaves.
                shame on you
                GOE,

                this osho is not even pashtun, she or he is just pissed that Pashtuns are coming back to power, and their fantasy vacation is over

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                • #23
                  The international forces are fighting againt the terrorists not against Pashtuns. this is very clear and simple. If people die as side line effect or some soldiers violate the rules and regulations and norms of the warfare and commit acts like rapes etc then its not the policy of the forces fighting against the terror.

                  On the other hand Taliban and Alqaida have Terrorism , suicide bombings as their policy and strategy. This is the only tools in their hands. They are noin state actors. they dont have government, state, legitimate terrotiry, population, cabinet, ministers, parliament, institutions,nothing. they dont have any international recognition. Their struggle is not recognized as a genuine sttruggle for freedom by international community. They dont have any respect in the comity of nations.

                  In the 200 countries of the world do you see a single country or nation who support Taliban or Alqaida including the so called Muslim world!How come here in internet forums we see few indivisuals supporting these enemies of humanity.

                  Pashtuns must come out with a clear declaration that they no more support these terrorists. Instead they consider Islam only their faith, worship and morality while for politics and economics they will learn from the developed world and will make a beautiful amalgam of Pashtunwali, Islam and secularism.

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by osho View Post
                    The international forces are fighting againt the terrorists not against Pashtuns. this is very clear and simple. If people die as side line effect or some soldiers violate the rules and regulations and norms of the warfare and commit acts like rapes etc then its not the policy of the forces fighting against the terror.

                    On the other hand Taliban and Alqaida have Terrorism , suicide bombings as their policy and strategy. This is the only tools in their hands. They are noin state actors. they dont have government, state, legitimate terrotiry, population, cabinet, ministers, parliament, institutions,nothing. they dont have any international recognition. Their struggle is not recognized as a genuine sttruggle for freedom by international community. They dont have any respect in the comity of nations.

                    In the 200 countries of the world do you see a single country or nation who support Taliban or Alqaida including the so called Muslim world!How come here in internet forums we see few indivisuals supporting these enemies of humanity.

                    Pashtuns must come out with a clear declaration that they no more support these terrorists. Instead they consider Islam only their faith, worship and morality while for politics and economics they will learn from the developed world and will make a beautiful amalgam of Pashtunwali, Islam and secularism.
                    Osho stop talking BS and whoring for the invaders of my country.
                    otherwise you will be reported cuz you have crossed the line

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                    • #25
                      We also then report Karzai,the olasi jerga, Loya jerga , all the governors of all the provinces of Afghanistan, all the ministers, the supreme court, all the Afghan police and forces, more than 90% population of Afghanistan, all who belong to the legislative, execucive and judicial machinery of Afghanistan. Can you ban them from Afghanistan! All of them support the international forces in Afghanistan.

                      If you dont support the fighters against the terror and you suppoirt the Taliban, the Alqaida then please continue supporting them but dont terrorise others who dont support Alqaida and Taliban. Please dont take all this emotionally. Read and comment on the contents and never on the one who writes it. Just refute what is said not targetting who says it. let there be freedom of expression and not taliban tactics to ban, stop, control and punish. Yes those who insult some one personally then disciplinary action may be taken.

                      Lets have free exchange of ideas and view. Lets learn, share, criticize , analyze in a friendly way.

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                      • #26
                        Osho you are a liar.

                        Check any poll, mostly all Afghans are against the foreigners.

                        It is clear you are ant-Muslim and anti-Pashtun.

                        This member ought to be banned.

                        Filthy filth

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                        • #27
                          You have taken some political science courses that have filled your head up with nonsense.

                          You have no supporting facts to back up your false claims.

                          All Afghans are against the foroeigners. Even the US media you love so much has done polls in which Afghans have clearly made their opposition to the foreigners clear.


                          Keep your liberal views back in punjab or Iran, wherever the hell your from.

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by osho View Post
                            In 58 Muslim countries and thousands of ethnic groups why the hell only Pashtuns have to be devout Muslims and have to be the so called Mujahideen or Taliban.This is what I am crying at.

                            My aim and goal is to make Pashtuns like Tajiks, Uzbeks, Panjabis, Turks, Balochs even Arabs who practise religion as a spiritual activity but does not make it a political , economic , cultural or social cause.

                            thats like saying in 100's of car manufacturers why does Buggati have to build the fastest car?? or why out of 195 countries in the world do all the best long distance runners happen to be from Kenya?? or why out of all the countries in the world is there more people interested in rock climbing in france than anyware else?? or why out of 6 billion people in the world do you have to fail in realising your first sentance can be said about anything. you'l prolly be crying forever.
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                            *You cannot climb the ladder of success with your hands in your pockets*

                            Originally posted by Karachi
                            like I said, there was only one reason I pretended to be pathan, for a girl, who was from Afghan forums and also registered here

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by Manzareh View Post
                              thats like saying in 100's of car manufacturers why does Buggati have to build the fastest car?? or why out of 195 countries in the world do all the best long distance runners happen to be from Kenya?? or why out of all the countries in the world is there more people interested in rock climbing in france than anyware else?? or why out of 6 billion people in the world do you have to fail in realising your first sentance can be said about anything. you'l prolly be crying forever.
                              All these things are positive and I would be the happiest man on earth if Pashtuns are the the manufacturers of the best cars of the world, the best long distance runners etc but they should not be the world best terrorists or Taliban or supporters of Alqaida. they should be famous not notorious.

                              And we are all against foreigners if they come and occupy our land. I have discussed in detail that we understand the raison d'etre of the presence of the international forces in Afghanistan. They are here to fight against the terrorists with the full consent of the state of Afghanistan. Go and ask the state to oust the international forces. rather when the forces want to go as the Canadians are going, the government request them to stay back as if they go the terrorists will make the lives of the innocent Afghans miserable once again.

                              Those who misunderstand the presence of the International forces are against them considering them as invaders. Others argue that their presence augment the strenght of the Terrorists thats why they are against the foreigners but they should wait till the time when the Afghan forces are strong enough to fight and extirpate the terrorists.

                              Just tell me a simple thing. Are you in favour of Taliban and Alqaida. If you are then no need of further discussion and if you are not then please suggest how can we combat these menices.

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by єѕαρχαι
                                Al qaeda=taliban= terrorists.

                                They kill random people (innocents). Even if they take over the govt the situation will go worse. Their idealogy is to be in constant war.

                                A stable democratic govt with proper pashtun representation, thats what we need in Afghanistan.
                                Per Matthew Hoh, their ideology does not appear to be constant war... but rather war against an outsider.... per Scheuer, they appear to have bought incorruptible stability to the region.

                                Proof sir... proof in the future please as opposed to anecdote.

                                As We noted before, Mr Hoh says the following regarding your claim of what actually causes the deaths of innocents:

                                http://www.thenation.com/article/157...-insider-talks

                                "We add more troops, which strengthens the Taliban and weakens support for the government. Suicide attacks, IEDs, military and civilian dead or wounded—all rise commensuratelywith eachincrease in foreign troop or Afghan government presence."

                                So perhaps, per the evidence your sentence should read:

                                Taliban kill innocent troops because of their low resolution weaponry that they must utilize when a nonmuslim invader, or an army funded by a nonmuslim invader (Pakistan's army) enter their territory.
                                "2 crackheads don't become any better or stronger by sharing the same crack pipe." - Greatest PF quote

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