why Creationism is farcical and Evolution is a meritable Scientific Concept

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so is Hanuman the transitional form or not?

wrong,dont you know telling lies is forbidden?
People out there quote the Quran and ahadeeth not some "ulama" or charles darwin.

You're lying, illiteracy is high in afghanistan, no way they're quoting Arabic. They dont teach Islam in Arabic there, either in Dari or in Urdu and maybe some in Pushto but those are khutbahs

Wrong

If you think someone who understands what he is studying doesnt know more than people who dont, you're a moron.

You must think people can learn by proxy lol

just to support your theory you would say anything.

that is an AUTHENTIC hadith...shows what a jahil you are to imply I made it up.

you make up things as you go.

read the Qur'an yourself.

[54:17] We made the Quran easy to learn. Does any of you wish to learn?


that's the problem with people like you, you run your mouth but know NOTHING about the Qur'an.

Well go tell that to over a billion muslims.

yeah and look at the condition of Muslims today; weak and incompetent, this is no coincidence, we started rejecting Islam and just taking what ignorant Mullahs say.

Our Nabi (saw) never taught evolution.

yeah duh he never taught computer science or math either

what is your point?

Muhamad(saw) mission was Islam and not evolution theory.

Exactly, therefore there's nothing explicitly against evolution in Islam.

Than why is there nothing knwon about this agreement,let me guess th eMongols burnt all the evidence ,yeah right.

There is, but the Mongols destroyed the learning centers and that is how Ignorant Jahils started claiming they're the Ulema but the real Ulema taught something different.

so you think this will make all muslims as child molesters or in this case all imam?

I posted 1 example I can post dozens more if it finally gets to through to you.

just look at the link you posted to support your hatred for muslims and blame all for this case.

I defended Islam against Toramana and other traitors; when all you could do is whine and cry to Admin to ban people because you're mentally weak to defeat their arguments

what I HATE is ignorant weaklings like you who bring Islam down by hiding under its name. You seem to equate your jahiliyah with Muslims in general

just like you equate your slavery to the Pakistani ISI to afghans in general; this is nothing but an intellectually dishonest smokescreen tactic

you cant even get rid of your snot and stop talking as if we are waiting for some coward such as you who tries to deny afghans right to resist.

I think you're either in denial or are intentionally obtuse; I think afghans should fight imperialists and also the Taliban who suicide bomb.

apparently you think Afghans dont have the right to fight the Taliban even though they're as bad as the Americans.

What is your problem with Mullahs?
Just make sure you dont spew this hatred when you are in Afghanistan if you ever dare to go,cuz you seem to be scared of even putting your step on your allegedly ancesral land.

Because most Mullahs pretend they have knowledge but really use it to manipulate social power

I'm not against all Mullahs, certainly great men like Mawlawi Yunus KHalis and Mawlawi Muhammad Nabi or Mawlawi Muhammad Faizani exist

but these are the Mullayan who teach people to THINK and use their brains not just blind following.

The Mullahs you support are ignorant and that's my problem, Ignorance.

Thats what you are saying to support your theory.

That's what Islamic History shows, read Tarikh Al Tabari.

I never supported suicide bombings,another amreekan type of argument.

so wait you dont support suicide bombings but you support the group that does them?

You're fooling no one here

So you are telling em you understand Quran,than why are you mutazalila?

Because if you understand the way the Qur'an is written the Mu'tazillah approach is most consistent with it.

Transitional form will do.

define a transitional form ...what would the phenotypical and genotypical characteristics be?

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You're lying, illiteracy is high in afghanistan, no way they're quoting Arabic. They dont teach Islam in Arabic there, either in Dari or in Urdu and maybe some in Pushto but those are khutbahs
so you are saying since illiteracy is high in Afghanistan so people are not real muslims?
you dont know anything about Afghanistan and have third party look at Afghanistan.Thats why most of what you say is inaacurate.
"dari,urdu and some in Pashto"
so according to you they play the Pashto dari card even in Mosques?
and where did you get urdu from?get real.

If you think someone who understands what he is studying doesnt know more than people who dont, you're a moron.
so if you understand what you are studying,than why do you need to study it.do you even make sense?


You must think people can learn by proxy lol
didnt your father taught you something,wouldnt that be learning by proxy?



that is an AUTHENTIC hadith...shows what a jahil you are to imply I made it up.
I was talking about you not any hadeeth,you are takiing things out of context.


read the Qur'an yourself.

[54:17] We made the Quran easy to learn. Does any of you wish to learn?

Beshak

but arent you making it complicated by implying that most muslism are jahils?

that's the problem with people like you, you run your mouth but know NOTHING about the Qur'an.

thats your opinion,you think Afghans and majority sunni muslims dont know their deen.



yeah and look at the condition of Muslims today; weak and incompetent, this is no coincidence, we started rejecting Islam and just taking what ignorant Mullahs say.
I thought it was you who was saying that the situation of muslims was due to imperialism and colonisation.
Make up your mind already.


yeah duh he never taught computer science or math either
these examples are false.
what is your point?

Whats your point?

Exactly, therefore there's nothing explicitly against evolution in Islam.
and your point is?



There is, but the Mongols destroyed the learning centers and that is how Ignorant Jahils started claiming they're the Ulema but the real Ulema taught something different.
so you know better than ullama?are you from the past when there was the Islamic Golden Age?


I posted 1 example I can post dozens more if it finally gets to through to you.
How do you knwo your that one example is not untrue?


I defended Islam against Toramana and other traitors; when all you could do is whine and cry to Admin to ban people because you're mentally weak to defeat their arguments

You cant defend Islam by lying nor can you by calling people jahil,women or whine.

what I HATE is ignorant weaklings like you who bring Islam down by hiding under its name. You seem to equate your jahiliyah with Muslims in general

You are contradicting yourself.
first you say that illiteracy is high in Afghanistan and people are taught in dari "urdu" and SOME pashto and call me jahiliya but than say its not muslims in general.
do muslims in general believe in theory of evolution?

just like you equate your slavery to the Pakistani ISI to afghans in general; this is nothing but an intellectually dishonest smokescreen tactic

So is that piece of false information the reason you hate Afghans who resist or is because they dont share you mutazila belief?
Intellectually dishonest?i never said i was an intellectual.

I think you're either in denial or are intentionally obtuse; I think afghans should fight imperialists and also the Taliban who suicide bomb.

So according to you its not Afghans who are fighting the imperialist you hate,werent you the one who was bragging about how mujahideen vs russia Najib etc?
So are you saying taliban are not Afghans?

apparently you think Afghans dont have the right to fight the Taliban even though they're as bad as the Americans.

its clear you dont agree with Afghasn cuz they arent mutazila but sunni muslims.

Because most Mullahs pretend they have knowledge but really use it to manipulate social power
any statistics on that one?
so according to you mullahs some sort of high priests?

I'm not against all Mullahs, certainly great men like Mawlawi Yunus KHalis and Mawlawi Muhammad Nabi or Mawlawi Muhammad Faizani exist
once you are than you are not?

but these are the Mullayan who teach people to THINK and use their brains not just blind following.
but you said they teach in dari urdu and some pashto so how can they be teaching good?and you also said that ullama are not real.
The Mullahs you support are ignorant and that's my problem, Ignorance.
I have never supported a Mullah,i dont knwo your obssesion with mullahs.I think you are misinformed about Mullahs and their social status.


That's what Islamic History shows, read Tarikh Al Tabari.


so wait you dont support suicide bombings but you support the group that does them?
i dont support anything,i have my opinion and its clear,suicide bombing is wrong since it is suicide.
So does that mean all fo the Afghan resistance against an occupation is wrong?

You're fooling no one here
you are just fooling yourself,you cant teach us about Islam or Pashtunwali or the political situation in Afghanitsna or the Afghan history or the who the tribes are.
btw learn Pashto if you are such a smart ass.



Because if you understand the way the Qur'an is written the Mu'tazillah approach is most consistent with it.
So according to you those generations before are not muslims?
how abotu the majority sunni muslims of Afghanistan aqnd Paksistan?


define a transitional form ...what would the phenotypical and genotypical characteristics be?

why dont you show one ,why are you asking me to define one?
so you can dodge the question?

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why dont you show one ,why are you asking me to define one?
so you can dodge the question?

because I can tell you don't know what you're talking about. You're merely peddling something some Creationist told you blindly.

so you are saying since illiteracy is high in Afghanistan so people are not real muslims?
you dont know anything about Afghanistan and have third party look at Afghanistan.Thats why most of what you say is inaacurate.

no I'm saying they dont have a deeper understanding of Islam, it's very superficial.

that's why? If it was inaccurate you'd prove me wrong. Yet you don't show anything that demonstrates the contrary. I can show you numerous research about literacy in Afghanistan.

Your best arguments are logical fallacies and conspiracy theories.

so according to you they play the Pashto dari card even in Mosques?
and where did you get urdu from?get real.

from Khutbas and halaqas I have attended here and overseas

didnt your father taught you something,wouldnt that be learning by proxy?

no, because my dad taught me to read books and study, not just take his word for things.

but arent you making it complicated by implying that most muslism are jahils?

No because how many Muslims try to learn Arabic? Very few, my point was when Muhammad(saw) taught Islam he just taught with a simple approach the details were things people learned over time and deep reflection. That is why you see a lack of things like evolution or quantum physics discussed with Early MUslims. As Muslims grew their understanding and depth grew.

thats your opinion,you think Afghans and majority sunni muslims dont know their deen.

They don't, I bet you none of these people know what are the masa'il of Aqidah Maturidi.

I thought it was you who was saying that the situation of muslims was due to imperialism and colonisation.
Make up your mind already.

I know you're beswad, but think about it, if Muslims weren't lazy and kept abreast of knowledge; how would the imperialists and colonialists ever have the upperhand? We would have defeated them the minute they stepped into the sea. So while yes it is imperialists and colonialists who are scheming and causing all this. It is Muslims lack of development which allowed it to happen.

Not hard to figure out. There's no false dichotomy here.

these examples are false.

are you saying Muhammad (saw) taught about computer science and math?
How would they then be false?

Whats your point?

Just because Muhammad(saw) didnt explicitly describe something doesn't men it wasnt our duty to seek knowledge of them for ourselves

so you know better than ullama?are you from the past when there was the Islamic Golden Age?

well actually I know the Corrupt People who call themselves Ulema know this stuff but they try to prevent Muslims from learning it because then they would lose their privileges.

I just did the reading and studying that I can spot those who do that.

How do you knwo your that one example is not untrue?

Because they have been corroborated.

You are contradicting yourself.
first you say that illiteracy is high in Afghanistan and people are taught in dari "urdu" and SOME pashto and call me jahiliya but than say its not muslims in general.
do muslims in general believe in theory of evolution?

NO contradiction; this is about context. MAdrassa students learn in Urdu or Dari. The general populace simply are in the dark. Nothing wrong with learning in dari or urdu but Arabic is more important for learning Islamic Subjects.

Muslims in general? We'll have to do a poll. Probably not, but Muslims in generl believe Osama Bin Laden was a hero when he was manufactured by the CIA.

They're misguided by false preachers. a new day will come when the masses will awaken.

So is that piece of false information the reason you hate Afghans who resist or is because they dont share you mutazila belief?
Intellectually dishonest?i never said i was an intellectual.

You're being intentionally dishonest, I dont hate Afghans who resist I repeated that several times

I hate phonies who pose as insurgents when really they're ISI stooges, which is an American Proxy Organization..

The true insurgents dont call themselves Taliban, only outsiders do.

You cant defend Islam by lying nor can you by calling people jahil,women or whine.

well if that's what you're doing, dont blame me for pointing it out.

So according to you its not Afghans who are fighting the imperialist you hate,werent you the one who was bragging about how mujahideen vs russia Najib etc?
So are you saying taliban are not Afghans?

I am very specific about what I say, Taliban are ISI proxies, the genuine Mujahideen are against suicide bombing Talibs/ISI and Imperialists.

I have never supported a Mullah,i dont knwo your obssesion with mullahs.I think you are misinformed about Mullahs and their social status.

Ok then if I said Mullah Omar is a one eyed cheat and scoundrel and is a traitor who has sold himself to the Pakistani ISI

it shouldnt bother you one bit.

you are just fooling yourself,you cant teach us about Islam or Pashtunwali or the political situation in Afghanitsna or the Afghan history or the who the tribes are.
btw learn Pashto if you are such a smart ass.

Yeah you say this but you cant provide anything to prove me wrong; strange how that works eh?

once you are than you are not?

No you moron; if you read what I was writing, I draw distinction between TRUE ULAMA and the fake ones Pakistan and the ISI create.

So according to you those generations before are not muslims?
how abotu the majority sunni muslims of Afghanistan aqnd Paksistan?

That's just your straw man argument. I never made that claim.

being Muslim is is basic, say La Ilaha Ill Allah Muhammad RasulAllah

having knowledge requires more effort, the people in Afghanistan and Pakistan are for the most part ignorant of their religon

even you ....you get bent out of shape for things Nabi(saw) never made a big deal out of .

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you are just making things up and avoid the questions.

it seems you dont know what you are talking abotu and are intolerant of muslism who dont speak arabic and call them jahils.

you are saying that pashtuns are taught in mosques in khutbahs in urdu and dari which is totally untrue and shows how you lack understanding of afghan society.

you believe in ISI connection as if there is any proof why the truth speaks against you,Afghans are known to resist they dont need arabs or pakis to help them out.


you should educate yourself ,Afghans are not that guilable to believe your false information based on lies and halftruths created to support the invasion fo the beloved nation.

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how about this mullah
‪Does Holy Quran goes against Darwin's Theory of Evolution? Dr Zakir Naik‬‏ - YouTube

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you are just making things up and avoid the questions.

it seems you dont know what you are talking abotu and are intolerant of muslism who dont speak arabic and call them jahils.

you are saying that pashtuns are taught in mosques in khutbahs in urdu and dari which is totally untrue and shows how you lack understanding of afghan society.

you believe in ISI connection as if there is any proof why the truth speaks against you,Afghans are known to resist they dont need arabs or pakis to help them out.


you should educate yourself ,Afghans are not that guilable to believe your false information based on lies and halftruths created to support the invasion fo the beloved nation.

Think about it if you dont know what denotes a transitional fossil how would you know the difference if I showed you one or not? You'd just deny anything I showed you pretending like you had a clue. That is why I need to see that you have the basic prerequisite understanding.

I never said AFghans didnt resist, I'm saying the Taliban are ISI stooges...two different things.


I have gone to halaqas and I have visited those Taliban factories before; that's how I became Anti Taliban

I used to blindly support the Taliban just like you until I saw what they really teach.

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how about this mullah
‪Does Holy Quran goes against Darwin's Theory of Evolution? Dr Zakir Naik‬‏ - YouTube

zakir naik is an idiot and he has NO scholarly credentials by the Evolutionary Theory of today is much more advanced than Darwinian evolution so your argument here is a red herring.

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zakir naik is an idiot and he has NO scholarly credentials by the Evolutionary Theory of today is much more advanced than Darwinian evolution so your argument here is a red herring.

you lose

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you lose

you know he has ABSOLUTELY zero qualifications right?

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you know he has ABSOLUTELY zero qualifications right?

are you talking about yourself?

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are you talking about yourself?

I have a degree, he doesn't

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Good for you, that you got a degree. That only proofs you paid tuition, and got a paper degree. You don't belief in Adam, nor Noah, that is why you don't answer my question. The Prophet (PBUH) dumbed things down? You fail.

Until you actually answer questions to suppose your bs, your just another A Rab.

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Good for you, that you got a degree. That only proofs you paid tuition, and got a paper degree. You don't belief in Adam, nor Noah, that is why you don't answer my question. The Prophet (PBUH) dumbed things down? You fail.

Until you actually answer questions to suppose your bs, your just another A Rab.

It also proves I have certified skills and that I pass measurable standards of competency in academic fields.

I did answer your question, you just want me to give you a specific answer, I won't answer things the way you want me to

(sorry just giving you a taste of your own medicine)

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No, it proofs your a fool. You also show yourself as one, every time. Your acting like a baby with your question , which I personally answered 8 times.

Your scared to answer questions, because your a non-believer. You do not want to expose yourself. You already do not belief in the Quranic story or Adam and Eve. What's next? Disbelieving in Noah

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I'm answering your questions 3 times!!!

I believe God Governs the Laws of nature which cause humans to evolve and that is how he created them.

Simple