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  • Al Jahiz was a man of understanding, the more you keep clinging to this diversion of Darwin the more you show your debate has failed, I have shown you numerous times that Evolution existed amongst Muslim thinkers of the past too.

    Dajjal is the patron of ignorance being that the and no one else here has been hellbent on spreading ignorance than you, keeping Muslims perpetually incompetent and backgrounds, Muslims blinded from truth, and lacking progress in science; it seems you have taken the prize at being Dajjals favorite servant boy, congrats?

    The only true uncle tom between us is you, not only were you peddling Christian Creationism you were also Promoting their corrupted Bible, Science has no culture, it comes from Nature, so someone who uses science is not an Uncle Tom, Christianity on the other hand is pure European indoctrination to its core.
    Last edited by ScimitarXEdge; 07-29-2011, 09:50 AM.

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    • Originally posted by ScimitarXEdge View Post
      that's not true at all, Arabs and Pashtuns have good and bad aspects, at one time our ancestors who became Pashtuns used to worship many Gods or worship fire.
      This is not certain. You present it as a certain truth when it is not certain. Why? For all we know, our (Pashtuns) ancestors were Israelite Jews who later converted to Islam- that makes us believers even before the rise of Islam. Now, how are we so certain about the Israelite theory? We aren't, but neither are we certain about being descended from fire worshipers either.

      Scientific research has shown that the Israelite theory is starting to hold ground.

      Please, do not speak with certainty that which can not be verified.

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      • Originally posted by کیش View Post
        I belief you did not read my response clearly. Where did I say god is lying to humanity? Where did god say that Evolution is real? Then in "reality" it's true?

        Remember god created Adam from clay, then Eve from Adam's ribs. God created Jinns from fire.

        Hell will be filled with people, don't forget that.

        2:
        23. And if ye are in doubt as to what We have revealed from time to time to Our servant, then produce a Sura like thereunto; and call your witnesses or helpers (If there are any) besides Allah, if your (doubts) are true.

        24. But if ye cannot- and of a surety ye cannot- then fear the Fire whose fuel is men and stones,- which is prepared for those who reject Faith.

        8. Of the people there are some who say: "We believe in Allah and the Last Day;" but they do not (really) believe.

        (the last one could be said about evolutionists)

        13. When it is said to them: "Believe as the others believe:" They say: "Shall we believe as the fools believe?" Nay, of a surety they are the fools, but they do not know

        This is how you evolutionists think like. Saying creationism is "farcical". Did yu notice how all these surahs are from 2 buqarah? Such a complete book.

        God is seeing who is a real believer, it's the devil's world to play. Are you going to fall for his tricks? It seems Alchemist is real, he isn't falling for his tricks. I didn't know they were Afghans falling for this.

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        2:214

        Or do ye think that ye shall enter the Garden without such (trials) as came to those who passed away before you? they encountered suffering and adversity, and were so shaken in spirit that even the Messenger and those of faith who were with him cried: "When (will come) the help of Allah." Ah! Verily, the help of Allah is (always) near!
        Some important hadiths.

        Adam and Eve were the first humans on Earth, created from clay.

        Abu Musa narrated that the Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) said: "Allah created Adam from a handful of dust taken from different lands, so the children of Adam have been created according to the composition of the land. Therefore from mankind we have white, red, black and yellow ones; we have good and evil, ease and sorrow, and what comes in between them."

        Abu Hurairah narrated that the Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) said: "Allah created Adam from dust after He mixed the clay and left him for some time until it became sticky mud, after which Allah shaped him. After that Allah left him till it became like potter's clay. Iblis used to go past him saying 'You have been created for a great purpose.' After that Allah breathed His spirit into him. The first thing into which the spirit passed was his eye and then his nose. He sneezed. Allah said: "May your Lord have mercy upon you, O Adam! Go to those angels and see what they would say.' So Adam went and greeted them. they replied saying: "Peace be upon you and the mercy and blessings of Allah." Allah said: "O Adam! This is your greeting and that of your offspring."


        If you hold evolution as true, then you are guilty of apostasy.

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        • Belief in evolution is a form of apostasy since it directly conflicts and denies what has been told to us in the Quran and the verifying Hadiths.

          (Al-Imran 3: 59) " The similitude of Jesus before Allah is as that of Adam; He created him from dust, then said to him: "Be". And he was."

          This
          tells us that Adam was directly produced from clay (earth) and was not born to a father and a mother.

          Some important hadiths to further clarify the matter and put it to rest.

          Abu Musa narrated that the Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) said: "Allah created Adam from a handful of dust taken from different lands, so the children of Adam have been created according to the composition of the land. Therefore from mankind we have white, red, black and yellow ones; we have good and evil, ease and sorrow, and what comes in between them."

          Abu Hurairah narrated that the Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) said: "Allah created Adam from dust after He mixed the clay and left him for some time until it became sticky mud, after which Allah shaped him. After that Allah left him till it became like potter's clay. Iblis used to go past him saying 'You have been created for a great purpose.' After that Allah breathed His spirit into him. The first thing into which the spirit passed was his eye and then his nose. He sneezed. Allah said: "May your Lord have mercy upon you, O Adam! Go to those angels and see what they would say.' So Adam went and greeted them. they replied saying: "Peace be upon you and the mercy and blessings of Allah." Allah said: "O Adam! This is your greeting and that of your offspring."

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