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  • Originally posted by khushal View Post
    First, I never denied Adam, don't falsely accuse people, that is a sin.

    Second, I understood your statement. So what your saying is that Science is an ibliss deceiving plan. So when Science explains why and how the plane flies, it is ibliss deceiving us. The plane is not actually flying. So when I fly from Kabul to Pashawar, I am being deceived by ibliss, I am imagining the whole trip or is it black magic. What your saying does not make sense.
    How can Adam, be the father of mankind, when an ape is according to evolution? You are denying Adam being built from clay, but of an ape.

    Who came first King-Kong, or Adam? Did Donkey Kong, evolve to Adam, or Adam turned to Donkey Kong, then humans came back?

    I cannot wait for Dajjal to finally appear. He has loyal servants already, ready to attend to him.
    Last edited by کیش; 07-11-2011, 01:27 AM.

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    • Originally posted by کیش View Post
      How can Adam, be the father of mankind, when an ape is according to evolution? You are denying Adam being built from clay, but of an ape.

      Who came first King-Kong, or Adam? Did Donkey Kong, evolve to Adam, or Adam turned to Donkey Kong, then humans came back?
      Why change the subject. Whats the matter, you cant argue your points, Go read the Quran, get some islamic education, then come back and well see if you can back up your claims.

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      • Originally posted by khushal View Post
        Why change the subject. Whats the matter, you cant argue your points, Go read the Quran, get some islamic education, then come back and well see if you can back up your claims.
        What are you blabbering about? Your Kabul to Peshawer flight has nothing to do with I was talking about. You also didn't understand what I was saying, or understand my comparison. Maybe you couldn't comprehend it.

        You thinking Donkey Kong is the father of man, is being deceived by Ibliss.

        Yes I could use more Islamic knowledge (who couldn't), maybe it is you who needs to put down "The Origins of Species", and pick up Sahih Bukhari. A book that can show you how to get to heaven.

        You are too concerned about Wordly knowledge, something that cannot help you in the grave. God isn't going to ask you on the DOJ, what your stupid worldy views are.

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        • Originally posted by کیش View Post
          What are you blabbering about? Your Kabul to Peshawer flight has nothing to do with I was talking about. You also didn't understand what I was saying, or understand my comparison. Maybe you couldn't comprehend it.

          You thinking Donkey Kong is the father of man, is being deceived by Ibliss.

          Yes I could use more Islamic knowledge (who couldn't), maybe it is you who needs to put down "The Origins of Species", and pick up Sahih Bukhari. A book that can show you how to get to heaven.

          You are too concerned about Wordly knowledge, something that cannot help you in the grave. God isn't going to ask you on the DOJ, what your stupid worldy views are.
          What are you blabbing about. Keep your debate with Scimitar separate from my debate with you. I never said those things that you are accusing me of saying, I told you before, false accusation is a sin. If you were a true Muslim, you would know that.

          Back to topic,
          Your saying that Science is an ibliss deceiving plan. I just gave you a reason that it is not. So either retort logically or concede humbly.

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          • Originally posted by ScimitarXEdge View Post
            did Prophet mention that Water is made of Hydrogen and Oxygen? If not

            why do you think Muhammad(saw) has to tell us EVERYTHING? If he leaves some things out, then so what? We're here to learn and discover. that's why God gave us a brain, not to just blindly follow but follow based on proof

            seriously you sound worse than a Wahhabi, you sound like a Christian; save yourself from such christian foolishness.
            i thought one just had to follow their animal instincts, scimitar. now you talk of using the brain. some brains might say that war is foolish and could be evolved beyond. some brains might say that women are also just as capable as men, to make correct decisions. seeing that there is no proof, scientifically or otherwise, to the contrary, then we shall take it as fact. you ok with that?

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            • Originally posted by ScimitarXEdge View Post
              did Prophet mention that Water is made of Hydrogen and Oxygen? If not

              why do you think Muhammad(saw) has to tell us EVERYTHING? If he leaves some things out, then so what? We're here to learn and discover. that's why God gave us a brain, not to just blindly follow but follow based on proof

              seriously you sound worse than a Wahhabi, you sound like a Christian; save yourself from such christian foolishness.
              According to Kaish, It is Ibliss deceiving us by making us think that water is made from hydrogen and oxygen. We can never ask Why or How otherwise Ibliss will deceive us. His whole line of thinking is against the teachings of the Quran.

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              • Originally posted by کیش View Post
                The Prophet did give us a good description of Adam (being 96 ft tall), but why not say being an ape?

                You are adding things to Islam, saying I am a fool because I belief Adam was the first human, and not king kong. Why don't you preach this to your local masjid, if you belief this is the truth? Go on ahead.

                Seriously, you don't sound like a slave of god, but an Atheist. You have same thoughts and arguments as an Atheist. Save yourself, it's your grave.

                The Nabi (saw) only said Adam (as) was 60 Cubuts Tall, IN JANNAH, keyword, so this height isn't a "real height" but supernatural reference. Therefore it has nothing to do with our physical reality. Which is what science is focused on.

                I do preach this; I tell Muslims we need to stop being blind and backwards and depend on kufar, we need to develop science for ourselves too. But science is nature.

                You're just so stubborn in your jahalat.

                I even proved the evolution idea existed with Muslims over 1000 years ago and you're still stubborn and ignorant.

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                • Originally posted by faye View Post
                  i thought one just had to follow their animal instincts, scimitar. now you talk of using the brain. some brains might say that war is foolish and could be evolved beyond. some brains might say that women are also just as capable as men, to make correct decisions. seeing that there is no proof, scientifically or otherwise, to the contrary, then we shall take it as fact. you ok with that?

                  Well that's the problem; you don't think, you don't comprehend things in their appropriate relevance hence in your mind you get confused because you think contextual applications are somehow macroscopic rulings. What better example of how you are lost in poor analytical assessment than this? There is a great deal fo science and you thankfully foolheartedly gave me an example in yourself. Furthermore when it comes to brain usage, We use our brains to serve our instincts; even our intellectual pursuits are ultimately to serve our instincts to develop a sense of order between ourselves and our surroundings.

                  In some ways men and women are equal in brain power such as academics, men and women are equal there, I see no problem with women doctors, engineers and mathematiciians, because lets be honest most of this stuff is merely going by a certain set of instructions, anyone can follow instructions, hopefully; when it comes to decision making men hold sway. Deal with it.
                  Last edited by ScimitarXEdge; 07-11-2011, 09:49 AM.

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                  • Originally posted by khushal View Post
                    According to Kaish, It is Ibliss deceiving us by making us think that water is made from hydrogen and oxygen. We can never ask Why or How otherwise Ibliss will deceive us. His whole line of thinking is against the teachings of the Quran.

                    Kaish has no logical basis for argument; and look who is coming to his aid even though this moron is saying science is just a huge deception. Alchemist

                    Wallah these people will hold Muslims back and keep us slaves forever.

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                    • Originally posted by ScimitarXEdge View Post
                      Well that's the problem; you don't think, you don't comprehend things in their appropriate relevance. We use our brains to serve our instincts.


                      ooooohhhhhh, reeeeeaaalllyyyyyy????????? yeah, yeah, we can see how you guys are running..i mean ruining, the world. that is evidence of blokey decision making at it's best.

                      In some ways men and women are equal in brain power such as academics, men and women are equal there; when it comes to decision making men hold sway. Deal with it.
                      evidence based is it?

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                      • Originally posted by ScimitarXEdge View Post
                        That's a weak analogy, fire water earth, blah blah are not coded in patterns and arrangements; of macromolecules with specific Amino-Acid pairings. What you're doing is like comparing a mud soup with a computer.

                        if your argument was correct that means you did not inherit your parents genes, you're merely similar; your claim is simply absurdity when examined in it's implications. The fact gene sequences are shared demonstrates relationship by the same biological premises.

                        therefore it does in fact demonstrate evidence for evolution ....if you actually understand the science behind it.
                        see, this is where your brainwashing really kicks in. this is you mimicking your teacher like a robot. earth air fire and water..lovely that'll do for us ignorant primitives. quite like the ozzie aboriginal 'rainbow serpent' creator too..colour and energy stick to your books and the indoctrination, oh hardwired one. another perfect robot along the lines of mdresden, coming up.
                        Last edited by faye; 07-11-2011, 07:57 PM. Reason: addition

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                        • I have warned you clowns enough, if you want to add things up to Islam go on ahead. You clowns have done nothing but feed your own egos.

                          Evolution was brought in the 18th Century by Lamarck, and Darwin. If it suites your ego, and bring in A-Rab as the founder then good for you. That man, including you clownes are only born "Muslim", but are not believers.

                          The only slave is, people who suck up to his white mans Philosophy.

                          Soon you losers, will deny god's existence. I'm sure "Scientific Evidence" will proof their is no god. Like Hawkings did, but you ignored that. If an A rab comes with it, your clown asses will believe him.

                          Slaves of Dajjal.

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                          • Originally posted by کیش View Post
                            I have warned you clowns enough, if you want to add things up to Islam go on ahead. You clowns have done nothing but feed your own egos.

                            Evolution was brought in the 18th Century by Lamarck, and Darwin. If it suites your ego, and bring in A-Rab as the founder then good for you. That man, including you clownes are only born "Muslim", but are not believers.

                            The only slave is, people who suck up to his white mans Philosophy.

                            Soon you losers, will deny god's existence. I'm sure "Scientific Evidence" will proof their is no god. Like Hawkings did, but you ignored that. If an A rab comes with it, your clown asses will believe him.

                            Slaves of Dajjal.
                            Kaish,
                            Your submitting to your masters who want to keep you ignorant so you may remain a slave forever.
                            You need study the "golden Age" of Islam when all people of the world were allowed to come to Baghdad and study to help free humanity from the clutches of ignorance.
                            Watch this documentary PART 2 at 3:45
                            Islam: Empire of Faith -Part 1
                            YouTube - ‪Islam: Empire of Faith. Part 2: The Awakening (full; PBS Documentary)‬‏

                            Its sad to see that you can not even argue your points logically and rationally but refuse to budge from your ideas of black magic and superstitions which is the biggest crime in Islam, you are going against the belief of Al Tawhid.
                            Last edited by khushal; 07-11-2011, 09:45 PM.

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                            • Originally posted by ScimitarXEdge View Post
                              Kaish has no logical basis for argument; and look who is coming to his aid even though this moron is saying science is just a huge deception. Alchemist

                              Wallah these people will hold Muslims back and keep us slaves forever.
                              What should be done is combine the teachings of the Quran and the study of Science and Mathematics similar to the time of the "Golden Age" of Islam, both were implemented together for the betterment of humanity, but the west has implemented the latter for selfish reasons and has no moral ground to stand on. They are morally corrupt using Science and Mathematics for the destruction of humanity.

                              One of the reasons that the Muslim Societies are behind is because people like Kaish have interests to hold the societies back because people like him prosper materially and politically. Instead of enlightening their society with knowledge of the Quran, they keep them ignorantly enslaved by teaching them superstition and black magic which is Shirk.
                              The English and the French have figured it out by duplicating their own societies as it was during their dark ages where the belief in superstition and black magic flourished and put those foolish ideas in the Muslim World.
                              Last edited by khushal; 07-11-2011, 05:53 PM.

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                              • the problem is that muslims see science and technology as "secular sciences" and don't realize that mastering and observing the laws of god is/should be a religious obligation.
                                There are people today who think that admitting God’s absolute greatness decreases the value and importance of humans in the creation, as if God and mankind are rivals competing in greatness and power. Meanwhile I feel that whenever our perception of God’s greatness increases, with it we become greater, because we are the creation of a great God.

                                Sayyid Qutb

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