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  • #91
    Originally posted by Kakar-Wardak View Post
    Angles are created from light, that is how they travel at great speeds.
    Isn't IT futile to ascribe physical features on non-physical entitites?

    Light is a physical entitity, it's limited by the physical laws of the universe. Light, while very fast, Isn't really that fast considering the vastness of space and time. IT takes 8 minutes for the Light particles from the sun to reach your eyes.

    When you observe distant stars, and galaxies, you are potentially looking at light particles that are millions/billions of years "old" once they reach your eyes.

    Non-physical entitites by definition do not need to be defined and limited by the physical laws of the universe.
    Last edited by SpiritualBeast; 05-01-2017, 08:34 AM.

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    • #92
      Originally posted by کیش View Post
      Thats a great question. Allah the great and glorious's hand, Allah and his messenger (peace be upon him) know better.

      But when it comes to Angels having wings. The Prophet (PBUH) saw gabriel (PBUH) with 600 wings. and he (PBUH) rode with him in Mi'raj.
      we can clearly answer this, No God's not a human being, the "hand" is something used to relate the concept of action and movement.

      The wings are just things that relate to being able to travel through seemingly enumerable states. I mean 600 wings? Why 600?

      Let's stop being brain dead please, not even early Muslims thought this way.

      Also, as economist Kaushik Basu says: "For a nation to progress it is important for people to spend time on science, mathematics and literature instead of spending time showing that 5,000 years ago their ancestors did science, mathematics and literature."


      Originally posted by ذو الفقار
      don’t try to be smart.

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      • #93
        Originally posted by Iblis_Efreetzai View Post
        we can clearly answer this, No God's not a human being, the "hand" is something used to relate the concept of action and movement.

        The wings are just things that relate to being able to travel through seemingly enumerable states. I mean 600 wings? Why 600?

        Let's stop being brain dead please, not even early Muslims thought this way.
        You're moving towards a grey area to to fit your intellect by doubting the words of the Prophet (Peace be upon him). We all know his (PBUH) signs of the minor hour have all been extremely accurate but your doubting ideas you think are riduclous. I don't know about that.

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        • #94
          The existence of thyself is more doubtful than the existence of God. All the atheists out there can't even prove their own existence. The best Descartes could come up with was "I think therefore I am" and he even concluded the "I think" needed an extra premise.

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          • #95
            Mahmoud,

            What is your opinion on the numerical miracles of the Qu'ran? I have been watching a few debates with Dr. Shabir Ally Vs. Richard Lucas (Link below).

            Debate: Numerical Miracles in the Quran, Shabir Ally vs. Richard Lucas - YouTube

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            • #96
              Originally posted by کیش View Post
              Mahmoud,

              What is your opinion on the numerical miracles of the Qu'ran? I have been watching a few debates with Dr. Shabir Ally Vs. Richard Lucas (Link below).

              Debate: Numerical Miracles in the Quran, Shabir Ally vs. Richard Lucas - YouTube
              It's a bit hoaky.

              Also, as economist Kaushik Basu says: "For a nation to progress it is important for people to spend time on science, mathematics and literature instead of spending time showing that 5,000 years ago their ancestors did science, mathematics and literature."


              Originally posted by ذو الفقار
              don’t try to be smart.

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              • #97
                Originally posted by khushal View Post
                The existence of thyself is more doubtful than the existence of God. All the atheists out there can't even prove their own existence. The best Descartes could come up with was "I think therefore I am" and he even concluded the "I think" needed an extra premise.
                exactly, they take for granted a-priori their existence based on cognizance. But I say ...fine, let's agree on that premise, then we can extand cognizance as central to existence itself, otheriwse we couldn't take it apriori. Hence, if consciousness is a prerequisite to know something exists, then cognizance becomes a condition for existing, and thus Consciousness causes existence. so it exists apriori. God is a consciousness that causes existence, so God exists.

                Q.E.D.

                Also, as economist Kaushik Basu says: "For a nation to progress it is important for people to spend time on science, mathematics and literature instead of spending time showing that 5,000 years ago their ancestors did science, mathematics and literature."


                Originally posted by ذو الفقار
                don’t try to be smart.

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                • #98
                  Originally posted by Iblis_Efreetzai View Post
                  It's a bit hoaky.
                  another random question. What do you think of Adnan Oktar (Harun Yahya)? I wasn't feeling him at first, but i have grown to respect him. I am a full-time student of Knowledge. Which takes me all over.

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                  • #99
                    Originally posted by کیش View Post
                    another random question. What do you think of Adnan Oktar (Harun Yahya)? I wasn't feeling him at first, but i have grown to respect him. I am a full-time student of Knowledge. Which takes me all over.
                    They have some shady business ....that guy creeps me out.

                    Also, as economist Kaushik Basu says: "For a nation to progress it is important for people to spend time on science, mathematics and literature instead of spending time showing that 5,000 years ago their ancestors did science, mathematics and literature."


                    Originally posted by ذو الفقار
                    don’t try to be smart.

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                    • #100
                      Originally posted by Iblis_Efreetzai View Post
                      They have some shady business ....that guy creeps me out.
                      Every self will taste death. The hearts of people who do not think the bravity of this world - YouTube

                      One of his students. What she is saying is the truth. But is it our job to judge her by her appearance? I think it would be hypocritical of me or you to tell her to cover up. I have been thru a whole bunch of religious Youtube videos before i found this one
                      Last edited by کیش; 05-02-2017, 10:45 PM.

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                      • #101
                        Originally posted by کیش View Post
                        Every self will taste death. The hearts of people who do not think the bravity of this world - YouTube

                        One of his students. What she is saying is the truth. But is it our job to judge her by her appearance? I think it would be hypocritical of me or you to tell her to cover up. I have been thru a whole bunch of religious Youtube videos before i found this one
                        Never mind covering up, the fake blonde hair is weird af.
                        Originally posted by Kaushika

                        majority of Hilly Rajputs are the product of these cross breeding and want to disassociate with their past. rajputs with rajwadi surnames consider themeselves superior but those native kings who look darker gets mocked as "gola" (mix breed, son of rakhile) so they actually invite light skinned rajputs and kshatriya tribes from Jammu region such as jamwals to sleep with their women so that their wives can give birth to pure white looking Native Child.

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                        • #102
                          Originally posted by Traveller View Post
                          Never mind covering up, the fake blonde hair is weird af.
                          Took the words out of my mouth. Her not covering her hair is the least of my worries. the rest of what she projects is what worries me.

                          Also, as economist Kaushik Basu says: "For a nation to progress it is important for people to spend time on science, mathematics and literature instead of spending time showing that 5,000 years ago their ancestors did science, mathematics and literature."


                          Originally posted by ذو الفقار
                          don’t try to be smart.

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                          • #103
                            Those women look like Russian prostitutes you see at the lobby of fancy hotels.
                            Originally posted by Firdousi
                            Never talk with Afghans about politics. All their political knowledge is limited to conspiracy theories, political demonization and contradictions. No logic, no reason.

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                            • #104
                              Originally posted by Shamlawar Khurasani View Post
                              Those women look like Russian prostitutes you see at the lobby of fancy hotels.
                              Mama taa kho bala "russian prostitutes" ba ledley ee pa hotel lobbies key.

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                              • #105
                                Originally posted by ZarakDurrani606 View Post
                                Mama taa kho bala "russian prostitutes" ba ledley ee pa hotel lobbies key.
                                Sure. I have even seen Russian prostitutes at the metro station back in Moscow more than 25 years ago.

                                I've also seen quite a few here on the streets and in hotel lobbies here. What's your point?
                                Originally posted by Firdousi
                                Never talk with Afghans about politics. All their political knowledge is limited to conspiracy theories, political demonization and contradictions. No logic, no reason.

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