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Its so funy with this mullahs retards that they call secularist, liberals and even Shia kafir and enemies of Islam, despite them beliving in Allah and Islam, but a scientist who is slightly agnostic but does not belive in any relligion or what so ever is suddenly a faithfull beliver and relligious people are the ones who contributed to everything. The scientific discoveries were done despite relligion and not thanx to relligion. -_-
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That is a strawman fallacy.Originally posted by Karachi View PostIt took me a whole day because I was sleeping you dumbass, I live in Canada and I work. I am not a jobless, welfare taking taliban mullah like you.
Over all 50% of scientists may believe in God/higher power, but that doesn;t mean they are following religion, which this thread is about. In fact probably less then 2% follow religion. To a fat ass taliban mullah like you, that is disbelief. You will not rest, until everyone believes in Islam. Believing in God, having spirituality is completely different from believing in religion
Also I have never said I was atheist, I also believe in God. Stop putting words in my mouth like a typical jahil mullah. Go back to your cave
You said most of the worlds scientists are atheist which means over 50% and your own article proves otherwise.
It seems like your the welfare recipient since your too stupid to THINK before you TALK.
You actually assumed that most scientists were atheists because you think your made to believe that without actually checking the facts.
Also I never said I was mullah you jahil atheist. Stop worshiping your true master which is this guy->
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It is only you who is saying that and no one else. It seem that some atheist beef is up your arse and it is making your brain dense.Originally posted by Khostai View PostIts so funy with this mullahs retards that they call secularist, liberals and even Shia kafir and enemies of Islam, despite them beliving in Allah and Islam, but a scientist who is slightly agnostic but does not belive in any relligion or what so ever is suddenly a faithfull beliver and relligious people are the ones who contributed to everything. The scientific discoveries were done despite relligion and not thanx to relligion. -_-
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Unlike you, I can admit to my mistake, I didn't read the article enough to actually look at the numbers properly. There are many people who people believe in God, yet dont follow religion. To extremists these people are still unbelievers and atheists. it's the same thing, doesn't matterOriginally posted by khushal View PostThat is a strawman fallacy.
You said most of the worlds scientists are atheist which means over 50% and your own article proves otherwise.
It seems like your the welfare recipient since your too stupid to THINK before you TALK.
You actually assumed that most scientists were atheists because you think your made to believe that without actually checking the facts.
Also I never said I was mullah you jahil atheist. Stop worshiping your true master which is this guy->
Any you are a mullah, because you always support Taliban and extremism
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Who cares about who follows religion or not, no one claimed one or the other. You are using diversion tactics which dont work here, that is a strawman fallacy. You were wrong and you admitted it, thats all that matters.Originally posted by Karachi View PostUnlike you, I can admit to my mistake, I didn't read the article enough to actually look at the numbers properly. There are many people who people believe in God, yet dont follow religion. To extremists these people are still unbelievers and atheists. it's the same thing, doesn't matter
Any you are a mullah, because you always support Taliban and extremism
I am not a Taliban supporter, I am merely explaining why they are winning and the Afgan Gov is losing but you don't listen.
Start listening and stop assuming.
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Originally posted by khushal View PostWho cares about who follows religion or not, no one claimed one or the other. You are using diversion tactics which dont work here, that is a strawman fallacy. You were wrong and you admitted it, thats all that matters.
I am not a Taliban supporter, I am merely explaining why they are winning and the Afgan Gov is losing but you don't listen.
Start listening and stop assuming.
Where is the diversion, you stupidly claimed that all atheists are stupid, which is wrong, obviously you were making this out of your ass, with out any source.
I said most scientists are atheists (yes I was wrong about the numbers) however 49% of scientists are still atheists , and out of that 51% how many are religious? like 2%? This argument had nothing to do with the thread anyways, which is asking what has Islam done for muslims
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I said most atheist, not all and I never mentioned the Scientists, I was talking about the general atheist popualtion. Reread what I said you stupid paki and go get a real education.Originally posted by Karachi View PostWhere is the diversion, you stupidly claimed that all atheists are stupid, which is wrong, obviously you were making this out of your ass, with out any source.
I said most scientists are atheists (yes I was wrong about the numbers) however 49% of scientists are still atheists , and out of that 51% how many are religious? like 2%? This argument had nothing to do with the thread anyways, which is asking what has Islam done for muslims
No Dumbshyt, its 41% who are atheist, 7% are undecided or did not want to answer. 51% have a belief. Reread your own article before submitting it ghul.
Man, you guys are dumb.
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You haven't answered my prior question [MENTION=2329]Karachi[/MENTION]
Was not Ibliss a good jin. He hasn't done anything wrong. He just taught not prostrating (check the synanames for meaning) when he was told was more logical than God's command.
Atheists, agnostic, etc... have the same train of thought as Ibliss.
Think about it
What is going to happen to Ibliss? what was his purpose: a sign by the lord. A warning, a commandment.
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Haraam zade, write it clearly in the future then. When you say "Most" it basically means 80-90%, again what is your proof of this anyway? you seem to make S_hit out of your ass all the timeOriginally posted by khushal View PostI said most atheist, not all and I never mentioned the Scientists, I was talking about the general atheist popualtion. Reread what I said you stupid paki and go get a real education.
No Dumbshyt, its 41% who are atheist, 7% are undecided or did not want to answer. 51% have a belief. Reread your own article before submitting it ghul.
Man, you guys are dumb.Last edited by Karachi; 05-01-2015, 09:11 PM.
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That is your belief, just because you believe it doesn't mean I have to or anyone else. You can't force anyone to believe. I know you Wahabhi/Salafis and Mullahs in general would love to force religion down the throat of people, but it doesn't work that wayOriginally posted by کیش View PostYou haven't answered my prior question @Karachi
Was not Ibliss a good jin. He hasn't done anything wrong. He just taught not prostrating (check the synanames for meaning) when he was told was more logical than God's command.
Atheists, agnostic, etc... have the same train of thought as Ibliss.
Think about it
What is going to happen to Ibliss? what was his purpose: a sign by the lord. A warning, a commandment.
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Allie would be in tears at the joy of seeing a fellow Osho follower reach a higher plane of existence as Badlun has in this quote!Originally posted by Badlun View PostI was thinking on these lines that was world better before Islam or after? I need your honest feedback on this issue.
Was Mecca not better before Muhamamd. A vibrant city with a lot of culture, art, music, sculpture, dance, commerce, festivals, social life, happiness, values, traditions, cutoms, brotehrhood and many other aspects of civilization.
After Islam, all these were banned and replaced with pure unqualified monotheism, a dull boring life, segregation of sexes, making women subordinate to men and imprisoning them in the 4 walls of their houses.
And a lot of blood shed, killings, wars, fights that even Ali and Ayesha did not spare each other and even the grandson of Muhamamd was brutally murdered. Even today Muslim world is the poorest one, with a lot of wars and terrorism and no science , no philosophy and no worthy contribution to the over all welfare and development of the world.
The only achievement of Islam may be Sufism, but the rest is all negativity.
The Osho cult was so ahead of its time promoting sodomy and other acts.
One day a Safi Male and a Shinwari male would unit their seed to produce Badlun, the first creature to be dual tribal paternity as seen here in this thread
http://www.pashtunforums.com/showthread.php?t=46021
Some people may think he is out of his mind when he takes complex historical and ethnic disputes and confuses ethnohistorical sociological concepts with world religion. But the reality is that since two males mated to make him he is somehow at the same time both Shinwari and Safi.
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The proof is that they cant argue against pascals wager. Besides that the evolutionary biologist David Wilson has done extensive study on the subject and argues that religion is vital to human survival:Originally posted by Karachi View PostHaraam zade, write it clearly in the future then. When you say "Most" it basically means 80-90%, again what is your proof of this anyway? you seem to make S_hit out of your ass all the time
Your a moron, you dont know anything. You have no education. You just assume shyt that you hear from media and cant think for yourself.Wilson argues that religious systems (sets of belief and moral codes) are biological adaptations that allow individuals to act collectively and survive in distinct social and economic contexts relative to other groups. He uses evolutionary biology concepts, such as group level selection and fitness, to show that religion has a functional purpose that allows groups to survive and reproduce. He focuses on phenotypic variation (observable and measurable traits) as key to group selection. Here he points to the social sciences, particularly Durkheim and functionalist thinking, (which declined in popularity at about the same time in social sciences as group level selection declined in the sciences) to argue that religion has a secular utility, i.e. it gets people what they want inside and outside of religion. Moral systems, beliefs that articulate right and wrong conduct, are central to unifying groups and fostering their collective actions. Behaviors that lead to the “right conduct” depend on open-ended psychological and cultural processes that are intimately linked to local environment (social, political, economic context). Wilson says that moral systems are not only innate psychological mechanisms, but are traits that are finely tuned through selection to the environment.
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