What Islam has given to the world?

[Badlun]

I was thinking on these lines that was world better before Islam or after? I need your honest feedback on this issue.

Was Mecca not better before Muhamamd. A vibrant city with a lot of culture, art, music, sculpture, dance, commerce, festivals, social life, happiness, values, traditions, cutoms, brotehrhood and many other aspects of civilization.

After Islam, all these were banned and replaced with pure unqualified monotheism, a dull boring life, segregation of sexes, making women subordinate to men and imprisoning them in the 4 walls of their houses.

And a lot of blood shed, killings, wars, fights that even Ali and Ayesha did not spare each other and even the grandson of Muhamamd was brutally murdered. Even today Muslim world is the poorest one, with a lot of wars and terrorism and no science , no philosophy and no worthy contribution to the over all welfare and development of the world.

The only achievement of Islam may be Sufism, but the rest is all negativity.

[Karachi]

in honest opinion very little, the mullahs have taken away all the achievements that were done before in the middle east/central asia region and now all those countries are living in the dark ages. Even the so called "islamic inventions" in the middle ages were done by muslims who were hardly religious, they were not mullahs

Now, one can argue, that the Islam that is practiced in countries like Pakistan, Afghanistan, Saudi Arabia etc... is completely wrong, as it is anti life. But how can one proof what is real Islam? it is very hard, because every person or mullah has a different version of Islam out there.

The western muslims are ok, and generally peaceful, but one can argue that this is because they live in the west and have been influenced greatly by the western culture

The whole thing is a mess, and thats why 99% of muslims are confused today

[Badlun]

in honest opinion very little, the mullahs have taken away all the achievements that were done before in the middle east/central asia region and now all those countries are living in the dark ages. Even the so called "islamic inventions" in the middle ages were done by muslims who were hardly religious, they were not mullahs

Now, one can argue, that the Islam that is practiced in countries like Pakistan, Afghanistan, Saudi Arabia etc... is completely wrong, as it is anti life. But how can one proof what is real Islam? it is very hard, because every person or mullah has a different version of Islam out there.

The western muslims are ok, and generally peaceful, but one can argue that this is because they live in the west and have been influenced greatly by the western culture

The whole thing is a mess, and thats why 99% of muslims are confused today

Then it means, Islam was or is an error. It has not contributed positively rather negatively. If there were no Muhammad or Islam, the world would be a better place to live. If a Muslim leaves Islam, and he or she can escape from the death sentence for apostasy, then they will not miss any thing of Islam rather they will lead a better life.

If there were no Islam , then today's Middle East and Muslim Africa and Asia would be peaceful and comparatively more developed.

Is it possible to have a world without Islam now and the problems related to Islam or it is too late and the world has to suffer because of Islam or Islamism.

[Karachi]

Then it means, Islam was or is an error. It has not contributed positively rather negatively. If there were no Muhammad or Islam, the world would be a better place to live. If a Muslim leaves Islam, and he or she can escape from the death sentence for apostasy, then they will not miss any thing of Islam rather they will lead a better life.

If there were no Islam , then today's Middle East and Muslim Africa and Asia would be peaceful and comparatively more developed.

Is it possible to have a world without Islam now and the problems related to Islam or it is too late and the world has to suffer because of Islam or Islamism.

No doubt muslim regions would have been a lot different, I can't say better, because there is no way to predict what would have happened

as for your last point, I am seeing a lot of muslims questioning a lot things now. Even myself I was very hardcore muslim some 10 years ago, but I have completely changed my thinking. I think some sort of revolution is taking place in the muslim world, however unfortunately a lot of muslims are still going to the extremist/terrorist path. There is huge divide opening up in the muslim societies, it may result in years wars and bloodshed between extremists and the more liberal muslims

[Shamlawar Khurasani]

interesting question.

Islam is monotheism. Monotheism existed on this planet since Adam alayhi salam. The purpose of religion is to guide humanity to be better human beings. Islam made billions of people better human beings.

those who have rejected Islam and turned to the paths of misguidance have only caused more harm and evil.

so if you consider Islam as something that hasn't contributed anything positive its due to your own ignorance and moral corruption.

[Karachi]

interesting question.

Islam is monotheism. Monotheism existed on this planet since Adam alayhi salam. The purpose of religion is to guide humanity to be better human beings. Islam made billions of people better human beings.

those who have rejected Islam and turned to the paths of misguidance have only caused more harm and evil.

so if you consider Islam as something that hasn't contributed anything positive its due to your own ignorance and moral corruption.

show me the evidence of that?

also show me the evidence about your second sentence, those rejecting have some how caused great evil. lol

[کیش]

the only people who are "confused" are the blind, deaf, and dumb. Especially the dumb, who are obtuse in holding their anti-tawhid faith.

[کیش]

People like [MENTION=2329]Karachi[/MENTION] and [MENTION=1034]Badlun[/MENTION] are the worse of the worse of the coconuts. They are the kind of people who, if alive during the Prophet's pbuh time, would act like t their muslims but for some money or power would spy for the Quraysh.

A modern Judah, you could also say.

A modern Bani Israel who would not help Moses (as), you could also say.

Modernly, they are the kind of people who would love to see Muslims get tortured and put in jail for being a Muslim

[Karachi]

People like @Karachi and @Badlun are the worse of the worse of the coconuts. They are the kind of people who, if alive during the Prophet's pbuh time, would act like t their muslims but for some money or power would spy for the Quraysh.

A modern Judah, you could also say.

A modern Bani Israel who would not help Moses (as), you could also say.

Modernly, they are the kind of people who would love to see Muslims get tortured and put in jail for being a Muslim

There is where wahabhi filth like you is wrong. I have been always a promoter of charity and justice, be it forums like these or in real life. I could never sell my soul for money, I know that for sure.

The problem with wahabhi filth like you is that you judge people without even knowing anything about them, you judge all other muslims and non muslims as evil, even though they may be very good people. You think you are the only one who is on the correct path. This is pure arrogance/ignorance, which even Islam warns against. No wonder ISIS does what it does. it represents your kind the best

[کیش]

There is where wahabhi filth like you is wrong. I have been always a promoter of charity and justice, be it forums like these or in real life. I could never sell my soul for money, I know that for sure.

The problem with wahabhi filth like you is that you judge people without even knowing anything about them, you judge all other muslims and non muslims as evil, even though they may be very good people. You think you are the only one who is on the correct path. This is pure arrogance/ignorance, which even Islam warns against. No wonder ISIS does what it does. it represents your kind the best

Why are you getting so excited for? look how many times you called me "a wahabbi filth" you do not even know what "Wahabbi" is. There is no such thing as a "Wahabbi". This isn't 19th century Arabia. You have learned this derogatory term from your new master, the anti-Muslim media.

Minus the money and power, my apologies on that.

you would backstab a Muslim for acceptance by Atheists, and their likes and sleep well at night because in your head you will tell yourself that they were "Wahabbi filth"

[Karachi]

Why are you getting so excited for? look how many times you called me "a wahabbi filth" you do not even know what "Wahabbi" is. There is no such thing as a "Wahabbi". This isn't 19th century Arabia. You have learned this derogatory term from your new master, the anti-Muslim media.

Minus the money and power, my apologies on that.

wellyou would backstab a Muslim for acceptance by Atheists, and their likes and sleep at night because in your head you will tell yourself that they were "Wahabbi filth"

If a person is a good person, muslim or not, why would I be against them??? I believe in being good humans first, before being muslim, christian, atheist etc.. this is the different between you and me. you will accept a terrorist/criminal muslim any day as your brother, over a good christian, or a good atheist. This is the problem with your kind.

and please, dont tell me that Wahabhis not existing again, this is a very old trick. I lived in Saudi Arabia in the 90's and there was a wahabhi craze over there back then, everyone, including myself called ourselves wahabhis. Now the term has been changed to Salafi, same s_it

[کیش]

If a person is a good person, muslim or not, why would I be against them??? I believe in being good humans first, before being muslim, christian, atheist etc.. this is the different between you and me. you will accept a terrorist/criminal muslim any day as your brother, over a good christian, or a good atheist. This is the problem with your kind.

and please, dont tell me that Wahabhis not existing again, this is a very old trick. I lived in Saudi Arabia in the 90's and there was a wahabhi craze over there back then, everyone, including myself called ourselves wahabhis. Now the term has been changed to Salafi, same s_it

There you go calling Muslims as terrorists/criminal. have you ever met, talked to, known a Muslim who has been labeled a "terrorist/criminal" by Atheists? How do you somehow know aren't good humans? being an Atheists is as much as a perversion as being Gay. They're clearly and purposely transgressing against nature.

Islam, is an ummah. It is a family, and everyone is your brother and sister, as any of your parents children.

I haven't left America, so i wouldn't know what they do in Arabia. I am an autodidact and read the Qu'ran, and hadiths without a mediator to bring me closer to the creator.

[کیش]

When God asked Ibliss to prostrate to Adam. He declined stating he is superior. When Atheists blindly deny the existence of God. They state they are a superior animal. See the correlation.

I'm sure Ibliss was a good Jin.

[Karachi]

There you go calling Muslims as terrorists/criminal. have you ever met, talked to, known a Muslim who has been labeled a "terrorist/criminal" by Atheists? How do you somehow know aren't good humans? being an Atheists is as much as a perversion as being Gay. They're clearly and purposely transgressing against nature.

Islam, is an ummah. It is a family, and everyone is your brother and sister, as any of your parents children.

I haven't left America, so i wouldn't know what they do in Arabia. I am an autodidact and read the Qu'ran, and hadiths without a mediator to bring me closer to the creator.

who is calling all muslims as (terrorists) at least learn to read

to you even ISIS are your brothers, you will always support them over good (non muslims). This is my problem with your kind. To you good non muslims dont exist, you will treat all of them as your enemy and you will treat the worst of muslims as your brothers. This to me is insanity, this is why your kind is doing all sort of crazy things in the world

[کیش]

who is calling all muslims as (terrorists) at least learn to read

to you even ISIS are your brothers, you will always support them over good (non muslims). This is my problem with your kind. To you good non muslims dont exist, you will treat all of them as your enemy and you will treat the worst of muslims as your brothers. This to me is insanity, this is why your kind is doing all sort of crazy things in the world

You have wrote Muslims as Terrorists/criminals grouped together.

I never said good non-muslims don't exist. I said good Atheists dont exist. they all are copying exactly the logic of Ibliss. like i mentioned in above post. please read, before you you label me as "your kind"