Is being a Muslim a prerequisite for being a Pashtun?

[DaMalakandGhar]

Wa wa loooool da malakand khar aka tormana version 3.0! One need not like anchovies or sardines to know each belongs in it's own can you fool. You on the other hand are sitting on your fat hairy A-s's waiting for marines to kill your enemies. Man up

Stop diverting like a "kanjar mullah" the main questions asked of you i.e.,


-Are your sympathies for marines and concern for American tax-payer money sincere and out of genuine motives or are you working in disguise to find justification for Osama's action and promote his ideology of terror?

-You are asking all tolerant Pashtuns who disagree with your violent views to fight Mullah Omar's army of bandits themselves instead of having marines to fight them. Shouldn't the same principle apply to you as well i.e., instead of having poor Pashtuns to fight marines, you head for Afghanistan and Wana and fight the "infidels" yourself. You also have gotten ample opportunity of that on the "land of infidelity" you live on.

Instead, you have chosen the infidel land to be your permanent home, are extracting benefits from it, living like a parasite on its lavishes and resources, and taking advantage of the security that its system provides to better your life and lives of your kids even though you consider the land and its system to be infidel and evil and its people to be sinister and oppressors of Muslims.

Way chai mullah bal tha masalai kai aow pa khpala mazai kai. da mullano pa shan da kanjarthob praida aow da dai swaluno sayi sayi jawab warka

[Manzareh]

Amir al Ghaznavi, Khadem E Din E Rasool al-Lah, Nang E Afghan, presents:

The Many Stages of Pashtun

Level 1- Nicca, Please

1000 years ago your Pashtun ancestor left his native lands and settled where you live today. You refer to your history only when questioned, and even then youre just as confused as the person asking the questions.

Level 2- Barely Pashtun

Your great great grandfather was a Nang Pakhtun, possibly accompanying a Marauding army, and settled in northern Afghanistan or the Indian subcontinent. You have since long forgotten your Pashto, look exactly like the people you live with, and have Khan or a Persianized last name. Your ancestor was a hardcore Pakhtun, you are nothing close to it. The Pashto speaking Sikh in the markets of Ghazni is more Pakhtun than you.

Level 3- Pseudo Pashtun

Your parents speak Pashto, but they were useless as they found no need to teach it to you. You take pride in being a Pakhtun, defend them when needed, have a few Pashto songs on your Ipod and can dance the Attan. You even say a few words to sound cool. But when some real azz Pakhtuns starting checking you in Pashto, you sit there speechless, and then shameless reply "Ma Pashto yod na dorom". You are then forced to accept a lecturing from said real azz Pakhtuns who start questioning why you dont speak it. You cry yourself to sleep that night

Level 4- Certified Pashtun

You speak Pashto, your parents spoke Pashto, thats the way it is, and the way itll always be. You know your tribal history, and can say with confidence you are a Pashtun. However your love and pride in your people is shaky, and youre on marriage to a non Pakhtana away from condemning your descendents to Level 3 or below Pakhtuns. An eye must be kept on you

Level 5- Zmarai Pakhtun

You epitomize the saying "Pakhto lara, Pakhto gata, Pakhta kawa". You know all 3 levels of tribal background, speak Pashto with fluency, insist all your kids must speak Pashto, and make it a point to always speak in Pashto with Dari zabons, as you enjoy the awkwardness that ensues. You live with honour and are physically impressive. If you meet these criterias but are darker than a Sindhi farmer or shorter than 5"10, you are demoted to Level 4.

Level 6- Youre such a fukin Pakhtun, the ISI will kill you

You reach this level if you meet Level 5 criteria, meet the disclaimer set below*, and have fair skin, long hair and a beard.

*If you are a Muslim, it does not help you in any way. If youre a non Muslim and you are open and public about your Kafir status, you are demoted to Level 1. If you are smart enough to keep Islamic appearances, and only speak on Din when sarcastically mocking it over a drink, you maintain your status.

LOL this is almost as funny as the celebration of your 1000th post

[Dreamer]

One is to do with ethnicity the other with a set of beliefs... one can change one cant...

[faye]

actually being a pashtun seems to depend on if the other pashtuns agree with what you say or not. i have witnessed many pashtuns on pf, condemned as 'not a pashtun' simply because they said something someone else disapproved of.
same with muslim. if you are muslim and you do something other muslims disapprove, you are suddenly not a muslim. that way, muslims are never responsible for doind any wrong. i find it amusing.

[Manzareh]

I find it amusing when a white person commits a crime he's labeled as a "A person that did such and such" but when a Muslim commits a crime you see "A Muslim did such and such"

[Khostai]

I think this question is funny and stupid at the same time, being Pashtun is your ethnicity Islam is a religion, You can worschip a spaghety monster for my sake but still you will be a Pashtun.

Its like to say you can't be an arab if you are atheist or christian, becuase in Iraq you have christians, are they not Arabs anymore? There are also Arabs who are jewish what about them? And what about Iranians? if they are not Shia muslim are they sudenly not Persian?

What makes them so difrent that they can have any kind of faith they want but nobody questions there ethnicity but if a pashtun is not a muslim he is sudenly not a Pashtun anymore. :S Speaking of dubele standarts this is just the top

[Khostai]

Are you stupid your racist?

Those Christians (only a few thousand) in Iraq are NOT Arabs but Assyrians. They are also a Semitic people but not Arabs. They are called Syriacs in Syria where there are more of them.

No Arabs are Jews what are you talking about?

Stop spreading lies.

I am not, I knew a christian Arab family from Iraq they said that were christian the didn't say anything about Assyrians or what so ever, you are the stupid one to think that all arabs are 100% muslim, and do you see me discriminating someone, if you think that saing some arabs are christian is an insult then you are racist your self.

[Dreamer]

There is no 100% of anything (in terms of ethnic groups belonging to a religion)

[Khostai]

[QUOTE=shadowgoverner;589583]mind if i make my own top 5 list of who a Pashtun is








1. those who follow Islamic fundements,have taqwa ,pray 5 times a day and know about the world and here After and will not fall for lies and deceptions.

2. those who defend Islam and Afghanistan and its identity in a discussion yet dont practice Islam often.

3.those who are muslims but turn a blind eye to demtob and other muzakhirafath.

4.those who are fake nationalists and play ignorant

5. those who say they are the actual real muslims but love to help oppress fellow muslims while working for non muslims interests.

0. those who have forsaken their religion and identity, now think they are enlightend while heading for hell,they use the word spaghetti monster often .[/QUOTE




you are true arab ghulam who is liking his ass
peopel like you sold our country to the wahabist and inhumane pakis
and you dare to speak about who is a true Pashtun LOL
You are a LOSER

[Dreamer]

You are lying. They are probably Assyrians. I don't know any christian Arab and I don't think they exist other than people people who commited ridda.

Some brother's already posted a documentary about how the evil occupiers and their puppets tried to convert people to christianity in Iraq and Afghanistan and they failed miserable and some never returned, Alhamdulillah.

Now tell me which Arabs are Jews and Christians that are well-known.

Everything can say everything on the internet. Prove it with some link. We are not talking about those who commited ridda.

This has nothing to do with racism but when I smell a traitor and a person who spreads lies I react.

Yemini Jews... their ancestors converted to Judaism...

[Khostai]

You are lying. They are probably Assyrians. I don't know any christian Arab and I don't think they exist other than people people who commited ridda.

Some brother's already posted a documentary about how the evil occupiers and their puppets tried to convert people to christianity in Iraq and Afghanistan and they failed miserable and some never returned, Alhamdulillah.

Now tell me which Arabs are Jews and Christians that are well-known.

Everything can say everything on the internet. Prove it with some link. We are not talking about those who commited ridda.

This has nothing to do with racism but when I smell a traitor and a person who spreads lies I react.

Please visit Lebanon Syria or Marocco, you can find Jews there You have even Jews in Iran....

[Dreamer]

Those are not Arabs but Jews who settled in Yemen.

"One local Yemenite Jewish tradition dates the earliest settlement of Jews in the Arabian Peninsula to the time of King Solomon. One explanation is that King Solomon sent Jewish merchant marines to Yemen to prospect for gold and silver with which to adorn the Temple in Jerusalem.[1]

Look up Dhul Nawas (who is alluded to in the quran in the incident of the ditch where Early Christians where thrown into a fire ditch for refusing Judaism... even the Jews in the Prophets time some of the "Jewish" tribes where Arabs who had taken on the Jewish religion... others like Banu Qurayza could trace their lineage to Israel)

[badmash_khel]

If that is the case then Lebanese are also not Arab but are phoenicians, Egyptians are not Arabs but Copts and Algerians are not arabs but Berbers.

[Khostai]

[QUOTE=shadowgoverner;589596]

let me guess according to you muslim means arab slave?
ok son keep living in your lalaland.

Alhamdulilah Iam a winner because Iam a Muslim just like true Pashtuns.

You are born a ghulam and would die as one
Keep dreaming Loser

[badmash_khel]

A true pashtun is the one who follows pashtunwali and does pashto.

He can be atheist, christian, jew, hindu, budhist and any other religion on the face of the earth.

Just follow the pashtun way and principles of pashtunwali and you will be fine.

Ignore these seudo scholars who come up with their won definitions.