Some members in Religion section do not believe in preventing vice

[Muslimah]

Its funny that this thread was started by someone who keeps contradicting themselves and wanting to interpret Islam out of context. Sowwie to say.

Can we please stick to Islam, Qur'an and sunnah?

[Azmatullah]

Well, these verses are pertaining to battles that took place. Not about life in general. It was permissible in battles when Muslims were being attacked and massacred, and peace was not working. Hence the rules of declaring jihad.

I do have proper Qurans with proper information and background explanation, thank you very much!

Oh really missy, you must think you are above everyone else then, with all this immense knowledge you possess in regards to the ''proper'' explanation.

I'm glad there is someone here who has the ''proper'' understanding! Thank goodness.

[inqilab]

lol if you want to allow the spread of christianity. There would be shirk and total blood bath everywhere.

Christianity tells us to commit shirk. This alone is the worst crime.
Liken Allah to the creation.
Kill a son who curses his father.
Kill a child who mistreats his parents.
Kill a thief.
Kill fornicators.
Kill a bad neighbor.
Kill toddlers in war.
Preaches incest.
Preaches sodomy.

What else is there.... oh! And kill apostates!

[Muslimah]

^
yes you are very lucky!
Thank goodness for me!

[inqilab]

So if anyone likes the above. Please tell us so i may pray for protection of myself and others from you. And pray that kids do not come around you be under threat of molestation.

[Azmatullah]

lol, don't flatter yourself love.

[Muslimah]

lol if you want to allow the spread of christianity. There would be shirk and total blood bath everywhere.

Christianity tells us to commit shirk. This alone is the worst crime.
Liken Allah to the creation.
Kill a son who curses his father.
Kill a child who mistreats his parents.
Kill a thief.
Kill fornicators.
Kill a bad neighbor.
Kill toddlers in war.
Preaches incest.
Preaches sodomy.

What else is there.... oh! And kill apostates!

Where did this come from?

[inqilab]

Where did this come from?

New testament

[MeemWawMeemNoon]

lol if you want to allow the spread of christianity. There would be shirk and total blood bath everywhere.

Christianity tells us to commit shirk. This alone is the worst crime.
Liken Allah to the creation.
Kill a son who curses his father.
Kill a child who mistreats his parents.
Kill a thief.
Kill fornicators.
Kill a bad neighbor.
Kill toddlers in war.
Preaches incest.
Preaches sodomy.

What else is there.... oh! And kill apostates!

Does not Sangar's version of Islam says this too?

So, Sangar, what's wrong with Christianity?

[inqilab]

Well, these verses are pertaining to battles that took place. Not about life in general. It was permissible in battles when Muslims were being attacked and massacred, and peace was not working. Hence the rules of declaring jihad.

Actually that ayah he is talking about is general, just look at the wording and how it ends. We are commanded to fight them, until all worship is for Allah.

And in sunan nisai, book of fighting, from anas, Allahs Messenger [s] said "Strive against the people of shirk with your properties, your body and your tongues"

[inqilab]

Does not Sangar's version of Islam says this too?

So, Sangar, what's wrong with Christianity?

What is wrong with killing apostates? Allahs Messenger [s] did it. And this confirms that it is ok.

You cannot kill fornicators.

Why are you picking and choosing?

[MazloomyarMaseed]

Oh really missy, you must think you are above everyone else then, with all this immense knowledge you possess in regards to the ''proper'' explanation.

I'm glad there is someone here who has the ''proper'' understanding! Thank goodness.

Are you saying Mukhkasis has proper understanding of Islam, the man who speaks of dominating the whole world and enforcing Islam onto others, and going against the Quran which specifically states one must not compell Islam onto others.

Are you sure saying its halal to accept money from Kuffurs to kill Kuffurs is considered Proper understanding of Islam?

[MazloomyarMaseed]

What is wrong with killing apostates? Allahs Messenger [s] did it. And this confirms that it is ok.

You cannot kill fornicators.

Why are you picking and choosing?

Because sometimes killing is not the Answer to such things. And Quran does not give a specific detail of how to kill a person who leaves Islam. You see, if a Hadith contradicts the Quran, then its of every right of any Muslim to question it, as most of you guys are much more politically motivated than Relgionously.

Regards

[MazloomyarMaseed]

Hahah I sense desperation from a few of these Astrologists and tribalists




You and a few other members have been fussing and moaning about Taliban, yet couldn't even provide one shred of evidence to discuss over, so please shut up if you can't even do such a simple task at hand

Only monster here is you and those who pretend they follow the Qur'an while trying to downgrade the hadeeths, do you even know how the Qur'an was transmitted? Through hadeeths!

Mutakhasis, what if the Hadith contradicts the Quran, do you support that even if its guiding Muslims on the wrong Path or are your day dreams of ruling the world got you preoccupied?

[Badlun]

Maseed

I ll request you that whenever you can you may collect all the verses of the Holy Quran above you quoted about the peaceful Islam and start a new thread on the peaceful side of Islam otherwise these extremists will really create such a hateful environment that many including me may really feel very bad about Quran and Islam.

Momin can help you organizing the topic so that we can present a peaceful face of Islam to the world.

On hadith I follow Imam Abu hanifa approach that accept those hadith which dont contradict Quran and reason. Thats why he was called ahle raye, the man of reason.