Al Hanif's Shoutbox

[ScimitarXEdge]

i am more pashtun than your own dad.

impossible we're Hotak, you're from Punjab.

[ScimitarXEdge]

why aren't you suffi then?

MOST PPL ON THIS FORUM?who are they ? you masood and the rest dheads?

you are some Hypocrite.
you are such a waste of time.

may allah judge you on the Hypocrite act's you do. ameen.

be a man and don't act like that....this is Hypocrite, don't you feel shame about doing all this.

i am not suprised seeing islam down to the floor becuz of ppl like you.
you are shame to islam.

Because you can't just BE a Sufi; you have work hard and develop your soul and your Irfan.

also I have some criticisms about Sufi practices too; BUT I respect they focus on Spirituality and developing their Akhlaq

The only hypocrites are people who support the Taliban; they go around killing other Muslims, which is true nafaqa

[PakistaniAtheist]

okay there are atheists who say we dont know there is god and there are atheist say who completely reject the existence of god, they say you are fake atheist?
then you will convert to budhism ?

lol you are stupid.

Hi no atheist dont kill atheist with different views. Only Muslims kill other Muslims just like they are ordered to by magic sky god. If atheist disagree they have rational debate. They also make fun of each other and draw each other cartoons. Muslims will kill you just for not having bigger beard than what he suppose you should. Muslims will kill you because you dont show your ankles. Muslims will kill you because you place your hands differently while praying. Muslims will kill you if your azaan is on different timing or if you say takbeer loud.

So if atheist dont agree with me we will just respect each other opinion.

[Al Hanif]

Hi no atheist dont kill atheist with different views. Only Muslims kill other Muslims just like they are ordered to by magic sky god. If atheist disagree they have rational debate. They also make fun of each other and draw each other cartoons. Muslims will kill you just for not having bigger beard than what he suppose you should. Muslims will kill you because you dont show your ankles. Muslims will kill you because you place your hands differently while praying. Muslims will kill you if your azaan is on different timing or if you say takbeer loud.

So if atheist dont agree with me we will just respect each other opinion.

Atheists kill other atheists with different views. Except that contrary to believers, they don't do it because of religion but because of their idolatry to some man-made ideologies.

WWI & WWII, Vietnam and Soviet-Afghan war killed infinitely more in the name of atheistic ideologies than all muslim terrorists taken together since the beginning of the universe.

[IamDZJ]

Hi no atheist dont kill atheist with different views. Only Muslims kill other Muslims just like they are ordered to by magic sky god. If atheist disagree they have rational debate. They also make fun of each other and draw each other cartoons. Muslims will kill you just for not having bigger beard than what he suppose you should. Muslims will kill you because you dont show your ankles. Muslims will kill you because you place your hands differently while praying. Muslims will kill you if your azaan is on different timing or if you say takbeer loud.

So if atheist dont agree with me we will just respect each other opinion.

so in other words you are a coward.

[PakistaniAtheist]

Atheists kill other atheists with different views. Except that contrary to believers, they don't do it because of religion but because of their idolatry to some man-made ideologies.

WWI & WWII, Vietnam and Soviet-Afghan war killed infinitely more in the name of atheistic ideologies than all muslim terrorists taken together since the beginning of the universe.

Hi world war 1 and 2 were not about atheist ideologies they were about political ideologies new powers struggling against old existing powers. Please research the subject before talking about it. Atheist never killed an atheist for being a different kind of atheist. The wars were between christains muslims jews and atheists. Read the history dont watch jihaad mickey mouse educational videos.

[PakistaniAtheist]

That's exactly what I said you fùcking retard.

Muslims never killed other muslims because of political ideologies. But atheists do kill for it and at a huge ass larger scale. Muslims kill each others for religious reasons but you idolaters kill for your Lenin God, for your Capitalist god, for your Zionist god, for your Money god, for your Hitler god... and you have killed infinitely more than any terrorist organisation.


May you burn eternally in hell for your idolatry.

Hi so muslims killing each other in arab spring revolution is a religious war? you call me ****ing retard now you should look in the mirrior to see who is real ****ing retard. I dont blame you i blame your religion for making you sound so stupid irrational.

[Catya Sher]

Re the Al Hanif comment about atheists.
That's very true, except that maybe
agnostics could be the real definition.

I am researching aspects of WWII,
and searching especially for notable
references to one's religion, like among the French.
Almost none of those who joined or led
the Resistance seemed to have any belief whatsoever !
It's shocking to me that in the middle of a country
with the most elevated Gothic cathedrals,
none of these French or people assisting the French
even would go into one,
if nothing else than to say a prayer for his or her
own safety !
I only found one example, Marie-Madeleine
Fourcade, who mentioned that she prayed to
Hazrat-i-Maryam. But it was not emphasized,
merely a small paragraph in her lengthy memoirs.

So if one averages out a few believers among those
who were active in fighting and some atheists,
maybe one comes up with a general term of
agnostics.
Which ARE in fact about the same as atheists in my opinion.
But not that of many others.

The part about Saudi chieftains who usurped the Ottoman Dynasty's rule
is fascinating. Sounds like this could be the only explanation that
they ARE indeed Masons.
I thought it was very strange when The Pope awarded
the Saudi "king" with some Catholic honor, I think
it was the Order of the Golden Fleece
among other strange rapprochements between the
two.
Hanif is right that a Pope kissing the Holy Quran would have
never been accepted - and in fact still is loudly complained about
by so many Catholics.

There's something extremely fishy about the Saudi rulers-
and there must be more to it than just Masonic adherents.
However, I would enjoy seeing the photo some day
to emerge of Saudi leading family - I refuse to call them Royal -
wearing that ridiculous apron with
the Masonic symbols.

So, whomever said I think I'm Laurencina [!] of Arabia,
you couldn't be more wrong, I hate that guy
and despise the movie and even the actor who played the
role of that despicable traitor !

As for Tor_Khan, you are really scraping the bottom of the barrel
having to second a motion made by the lunatic member who
tried to make a jab at me, not knowing anything about me.
I notice your trend of stepping into the unpleasant shoes
of the now-defunct Wrayun, aka "PF Tech", who tried
exactly the same abrasive approach of attacking me...

[PakistaniAtheist]

so in other words you are a coward.

Hi why do you think i am coward. For rejecting religion i risk losing my family friends and life. it takes more courage to face your religion dogma instead believing like sheep what you born in to. I have the courage to challenge what is thought to me do you. you just worship pray because you were told like good obedient boy. Thankfully my family friends are educated and understanding. I dont insult their religion i ask them questions they can provide answers to.

[Al Hanif]

Hi so muslims killing each other in arab spring revolution is a religious war? you call me ****ing retard now you should look in the mirrior to see who is real ****ing retard. I dont blame you i blame your religion for making you sound so stupid irrational.

Start reading the thread from the beginning.

What you have in the 'arab spring' (named like this by the western zionist media, actually it's an islamic spring)

What you have in the 'arab spring' is murtads = apostates fighting against true muslims.

In Syria, the Shias Alawis apostates who control the government and the army are killing Sunni muslims. It's a religious war.

In Yemen, the rebel tribes are fighting against the murtad goverment which allows US bases on its soil and refuses to implement Sharia. It's also a religious war.

In Libya, it's Kadhafi Loyalist apostates who are killing NATO supported apostates. None of them are muslims.

Start reading the thread from the beginning. It's not because you have a beard you're automatically a muslim.

They are non-muslims like you killing each others.

In Tunisia, it was Ben Ali loyalist apostates who fought against muslims. It was a tiny conflict and the victory of Islamist party proves that it was about religion.

In Egypt, it was Mubarak loyalist & zionist apostates who fought against muslims.

In Bahrein, it was Shias who fought against the murtad bahrein apostate rulers who allowed US bases on their soil. Again a religious war.

[PakistaniAtheist]

Start reading the thread from the beginning.

What you have in the 'arab spring' (named like this by the western zionist media, actually it's an islamic spring)

What you have in the 'arab spring' is murtads = apostates fighting against true muslims.

In Syria, the Shias Alawis apostates who control the government and the army are killing Sunni muslims. It's a religious war.

In Yemen, the rebel tribes are fighting against the murtad goverment which allows US bases on its soil and refuses to implement Sharia. It's also a religious war.

In Libya, it's Kadhafi Loyalist apostates who are killing NATO supported apostates. None of them are muslims.

Start reading the thread from the beginning. It's not because you have a beard you're automatically a muslim.

They are non-muslims like you killing each others.

In Tunisia, it was Ben Ali loyalist apostates who fought against muslims. It was a tiny conflict and the victory of Islamist party proves that it was about religion.

In Egypt, it was Mubarak loyalist & zionist apostates who fought against muslims.

In Bahrein, it was Shias who fought against the murtad bahrein apostate rulers who allowed US bases on their soil. Again a religious war.

Hi sorry to disagree but protests in arabic world started because of economic situations not because arabic people were being ruled by unislamic rulers. Protests in Tunisia started when a guy burn himself because of economic issue and politics never changing since same dictator in power for many years. Islam was not the reason. The same thing happened in Egypt Lybia now in Syria. All this time these people were living under these rulers no one cared how many times kaddafi ben ali mubarak pray. They only revolt when political and economical situation got worst. Big proof is now their governments they are not shariah asking for islami law they are based on democracy ideology giving rights to christains shias alawis others. In syria there are alawis who are fighting against Bashar. You are twisting this for your own sick agenda.

In Lybia rebels were supported given weapons by NATO it was Muslim killing Muslim for political power. So you are wrong. Adding word apostate doesnt make it religious nice try.

[ScimitarXEdge]

actually Hitler Believed in God ......Soviets just wanted power, didn't care for religion......

you can't just say that something not being explicitly for religion is "Atheism". Just like people who are Muslim doing a crime doesn't mean that Islam is at fault.


The problem is mankind is flawed and demented. Some people will be Atheists and kill some people will be religious and kill

Taliban are ruthlessly murdering other Muslims claiming they're doing it for Islam. America is murdering in the name of being a super power.

The problem is humanity itself; atheism and religion have little to do with it

[Al Hanif]

Hi sorry to disagree but protests in arabic world started because of economic situations not because arabic people were being ruled by unislamic rulers. Protests in Tunisia started when a guy burn himself because of economic issue and politics never changing since same dictator in power for many years. Islam was not the reason. The same thing happened in Egypt Lybia now in Syria. All this time these people were living under these rulers no one cared how many times kaddafi ben ali mubarak pray. They only revolt when political and economical situation got worst. Big proof is now their governments they are not shariah asking for islami law they are based on democracy ideology giving rights to christains shias alawis others. In syria there are alawis who are fighting against Bashar. You are twisting this for your own sick agenda.

In Lybia rebels were supported given weapons by NATO it was Muslim killing Muslim for political power. So you are wrong. Adding word apostate doesnt make it religious nice try.

I already stated that Libyan fighters are not muslim. According to the Qur'an they are apostates. You can call them muslim all you want, they can call themselves muslims day and night, that doesn't make them muslims at all. Once, because of death threats Salman Rushdie said he was a muslim too.

But it seems that with your low IQ you can't understand this.

WWII started because Gavrilo Princip killed Archduke Franz Ferdinand, it was because of Serbian Nationalism. Does that mean that WWII was because of Serbian Nationalism ? Not at all. The same way the Tunisian who burned himself has nothing to do with what is happening now in Arab countries.

Once again you are being dumb and hypocritical.

Islam was not the reason of everything. But the overwhelming majority of insurgents who fought in real life threatening fightings were fighting for Islam, not for convinience. I saw millions of Egyptians shouting Allahu Akbar and praying in the streets. They were calling for the liberation of Al Quds, not for more MacDonald or for Gay Prides. I saw Yemenis tribe leaders calling for Khilafah and Jihad. I saw Bahreinis fighting the police shouting Islamic slogans. I saw Syrian insurgents refusing to kiss Al Assad portraits and spitting on it and being tortured by military loyalists destroying Mosques and minarets while trying to avenge the fundamentalists killed by his father. The alawis supporting the insurgents are like Soldat_Amir in the middle of Kandahar, a big joke. All of this was not because of Islam ? All what they cared about was money ?

You are as hypocrite as the zionist media.

Keep burrying your head in the sand.

[Al Hanif]

actually Hitler Believed in God ......Soviets just wanted power, didn't care for religion......

you can't just say that something not being explicitly for religion is "Atheism". Just like people who are Muslim doing a crime doesn't mean that Islam is at fault.


The problem is mankind is flawed and demented. Some people will be Atheists and kill some people will be religious and kill

Taliban are ruthlessly murdering other Muslims claiming they're doing it for Islam. America is murdering in the name of being a super power.

The problem is humanity itself; atheism and religion have little to do with it

Thanks for proving us once again that you are not a muslim.

[ScimitarXEdge]

Hi sorry to disagree but protests in arabic world started because of economic situations not because arabic people were being ruled by unislamic rulers. Protests in Tunisia started when a guy burn himself because of economic issue and politics never changing since same dictator in power for many years. Islam was not the reason. The same thing happened in Egypt Lybia now in Syria. All this time these people were living under these rulers no one cared how many times kaddafi ben ali mubarak pray. They only revolt when political and economical situation got worst. Big proof is now their governments they are not shariah asking for islami law they are based on democracy ideology giving rights to christains shias alawis others. In syria there are alawis who are fighting against Bashar. You are twisting this for your own sick agenda.

In Lybia rebels were supported given weapons by NATO it was Muslim killing Muslim for political power. So you are wrong. Adding word apostate doesnt make it religious nice try.

Actually it was a mixture of economic issues, socio-cultural and religious issues. The Religious influence in the situation cannot be undermined nor can the other issues. It's a maelstrom of all these issues. Egyptians saw Mubarak as a secularist puppet of Western powers who sold their livelihood away and enabled a way of life which violated their religious traditions and culture and was a remnant of colonial powers, same in Tunisia and in Yemen.

While it's true that there are Alawites who are rising up against the Assads, the primary movement against them is Sunni, and ostensibly non-secular.

THis isn't to say secular elements don't exist that are opposing them; but MOST Secular Syrians support the Assads.