Why Evolutiontheory is just a theory and not an Evidence

[ScimitarXEdge]

As you can see people. The american education of the 80s is a failure...ozy and ****mitar are examples.

and yet your only rebuttal is ridicule and not an actual sound biochemistry based refutation.

[ScimitarXEdge]

did you read the WHOLE quote?

[Alchemist]

do you know the difference between micro and macro evolution?

[ozymandias]

There is only one environment my dear ...

Not at all. There are distinctly 2 environments. One that contains the drug that the microbe is resistant to, and one that does not contain the drug. That is two environments.

This is basic math, here.

we are talking about evolution - the creation of new information by random chance ...you are giving an example of variation of existing information.

Not at all. It's actually your example -- which is only a limited investigation of drug resistant bacteria.

when you understand the difference...your mind will blow.

Funny. It is precisely because I understand the difference that I can see the flaws in your arguments.

You are now trying to move the goalposts and change the scope of the discussion because you can see you cannot defend your claims.

[ScimitarXEdge]

Yes jack ass


MICROEVOLUTION!!!!!!!!

MICROOOOOOOOO


MICROOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO




LOL


wow...idiots!

ok this is for the reading comprehension impaired.

"Antibiotic resistance in terms of natural selection is an excellent example in its use. It's one of the hallmark examples given in microevolution for support of Darwinian thought'

[Alchemist]

Not at all. There are distinctly 2 environments. One that contains the drug that the microbe is resistant to, and one that does not contain the drug. That is two environments.

This is basic math, here.



Not at all. It's actually your example -- which is only a limited investigation of drug resistant bacteria.



Funny. It is precisely because I understand the difference that I can see the flaws in your arguments.

You are now trying to move the goalposts and change the scope of the discussion because you can see you cannot defend your claims.

Ok smart ass...

just answer me this ...

is drug resistance an example of mirco or macro evolution?

[Leonine]

lets not go in the details but srsly how can anyone believe something that an organism can emerge from abiotic[ matter... thats like saying my calculator and book, if exposed to the "correct" environment for millions of years will become alive..

[Alchemist]

ok this is for the reading comprehension impaired.

you are quoting mining jack ass...


answer the above question...

if you really know your stuff

[ozymandias]

bacteria can 'breath' in air and water.

don't change the "subject"

I'm not changing it. You claim that optimization for one environment requires optimization for all. I provided a counter example to show you how absurd you are being.

[ScimitarXEdge]

do you know the difference between micro and macro evolution?

one leads to the other?

[ScimitarXEdge]

you are quoting mining jack ass...


answer the above question...

if you really know your stuff

actually the one who was quote mining is you; you said the Scientist in the video denied that reistant bacteria is evidence of evolution.


well I just showed the quote where he addresses resistant bacteria as evidence of evolution ...DARWINIAN THOUGHT = the idea species comes from other species

[ozymandias]

do you know the difference between micro and macro evolution?

Yes -- macroevolution is large scale changes in gene pools, either through one large change, or compounding out of microevolutionary changes, or smaller changes.

Both micro and macro evolution have been observed scientifically.

[ScimitarXEdge]

lets not go in the details but srsly how can anyone believe something that an organism can emerge from abiotic[ matter... thats like saying my calculator and book, if exposed to the "correct" environment for millions of years will become alive..

Watchmaker Fallacy.....also Abiogenesis ...is not the same as the Theory of Evolution; the theory of evolution explains speciation. Not abiogenesis

[Alchemist]

I'm not changing it. You claim that optimization for one environment requires optimization for all. I provided a counter example to show you how absurd you are being.

let me put it to you like this...

Anti biotics is a human creation. If world war three hits and we stop manufacturing anti biotics, then these drug resistant bacteria will be no more...and the natural strain will flourish again ..and then we rebuild our labs and remanufacture the same anti biotics we won't observe "drug resistance"...


Basically, the anti biotics selects for one type of VARIATION of the species...

its like you can only kill white sheep but not blacks, so blacks will flourish... that is not an example EVOLUTION - change of one species into another...if that were the case...then the "drug resistant" strain will survive even after we stop using anti biotics for a long period of time...

get it?

No you just don't want to get it.

[ozymandias]

Ok smart ass...

just answer me this ...

is drug resistance an example of mirco or macro evolution?

It could be either -- it depends on the definition of 'species' among asexual bacteria, as well as the time scales involved. A single generation is unlikely to exhibit macroevolution, particularly in asexual organisms, however they have found several instances where the resistant strains are classified under their own species.