Why Evolutiontheory is just a theory and not an Evidence

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Hey Ozymandias ...whenever he starts making a strawman ....ask him for quotes of your statements which he claims indicates your position

that usually shuts him up quick, he runs for cover when asked to demonstrate his arguments.

that's pretty much what hes done here.

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****mitar and the atheist see eye to eye on evolution....irony...right...right...and my faith is weak.


You two need to feed each other's delusions. When you have proof of evolution, then we'll "argue".

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it can't be any different than you seeing eye to eye with Bush on the Bush doctrine or seeing eye to eye with Secular Apostate Toramana.

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when you stop changing goal posts; and go back to school and actually get an education in science; then you'll understand why evidence has verified it.

[Alchemist]

^ Quote me saying that...liar.

Look who is making strawman arguments now?

You have no shame....pathetic.

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quote you saying what though? I'm not saying you said anything

Your argument matches the Bush doctrine. that isn't something you said, those are the properties of your ideas.

[ozymandias]

Evidently, ****mitar is rehashing arguments that have been debunked already -

Simple minded folks like your self and ****mitar who don't have even a grade 9 understanding of biology believe that evolution proceeds as A > B > C > D, in a linear fashion. However in reality complex biochemical pathways are comprised of multiple components that interact in intricate ways that are more sophisticated than an automotive manufacturing plant.

I'm not sure why you are making personal attacks -- and attacking me for a belief I have not ever expressed -- let alone where you could see it.

Yet another straw man.

Suffice it to say that Evolution is only a creation narrative. It is the myth of this century that you choose to believe on blind faith.

There is nothing of blind faith in my belief of evolution, and you have no evidence for making that claim. Another personal attack -- and straw man to boot.

All of evolution is based on palaeontology,

False. Anyone that would claim this is either a liar, or ignorant as to the actual science. There are hundreds, if not thousands of experiments daily that either count on evolution occurring, or investigate it's effects.

In fact, evolution is the biggest single problem in modern medicine, with evolution being the direct cause of drug-resistant strains of bacteria. Anyone claiming that evolution does not occur has never paid any attention to modern medical news.

Furthermore, there are many cases of evolution documented and observed by mankind. Evolution has even been used by mankind throughout history in a directed attempt to improve the human condition and increase the yield of farms.

which is more of an arts than a science. It is not the function of a law to narrate the past, but to predict the future ...because evolution cannot and has not made any predictive hypothesis,

False. Not only in that evolution can, and has predicted changes, but that Laws and Theories cannot be used to narrate the past.

it will remain open to debate.

There is no debate. At all. Legitimate scientists have closed this issue long ago, it is only in the scientifically illiterate that there is any pretense of a debate.

Show me proof for speciation?

Show me proof that there is any legitimate debate among scientists.

Do you know what was ****mitar's proof? That donkeys and horses can mate to produce a mule, he believed the reverse could be true, that a mule could turn into either a donkey or a horse LOL. He doesn't even know how a gene relates to a protein and he wanted to argue with me what genetic markers were. Now he is trying to validate the Miller Ury experiment?

[Alchemist]

So what are you saying?
That I am advocating for the Bush doctrine? I want to hunt terrorists - Islamists - Muslim Jihadists? Taliban - Al Qaida?

Are you stupid?

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that you think that if people don't support Taliban and ignore their crimes against other Muslims; that somehow this implies serving NATO

the "you're either with us or against us" argument that Bush uses, i.e. the Bush doctrine.

am I stupid? No , but you definitely are, I don't even need to ask it's apparent.

[Toramana]

So what are you saying?
That I am advocating for the Bush doctrine? I want to hunt terrorists - Islamists - Muslim Jihadists? Taliban - Al Qaida?

Are you stupid?

Al-Chemist brother I feel you are on the verge of losing this debate...May be I am wrong.. But it is good you've given hard time to the greatest imposter on this forum...Praying for your graceful defeat/fall...

[Alchemist]

I'm not sure why you are making personal attacks -- and attacking me for a belief I have not ever expressed -- let alone where you could see it.

Yet another straw man.



There is nothing of blind faith in my belief of evolution, and you have no evidence for making that claim. Another personal attack -- and straw man to boot.



False. Anyone that would claim this is either a liar, or ignorant as to the actual science. There are hundreds, if not thousands of experiments daily that either count on evolution occurring, or investigate it's effects.

In fact, evolution is the biggest single problem in modern medicine, with evolution being the direct cause of drug-resistant strains of bacteria. Anyone claiming that evolution does not occur has never paid any attention to modern medical news.

Furthermore, there are many cases of evolution documented and observed by mankind. Evolution has even been used by mankind throughout history in a directed attempt to improve the human condition and increase the yield of farms.



False. Not only in that evolution can, and has predicted changes, but that Laws and Theories cannot be used to narrate the past.



There is no debate. At all. Legitimate scientists have closed this issue long ago, it is only in the scientifically illiterate that there is any pretense of a debate.



Show me proof that there is any legitimate debate among scientists.

Do me a favour buddy.

Go click on those threads I posted a few posts before and just scan through them. You will find all the answers to your questions there. I already dealt with them there in details. Or you want me to copy and paste it for you back again here?
If you are sincere, then you will do that. But if you are another childish egomaniac like ****mitar...you will persist in believing in your delusions.


for example - even the drug resistance, isn't proof of evolution, because in the absence of the artificial stressor, the wild strain will flourish once again.

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so you're saying things will transform into other species because we want them to....but they wont do it under the impingement of the ecosystem?


Man ...are you sure you don't smoke dope?

[ozymandias]

****mitar and the atheist see eye to eye on evolution....irony...right...right...

Again, I have not really posted enough of my opinion on evolution for you to make that claim.

and my faith is weak.

Well, it appears the only basis you have for your faith is straw men, so I guess it would have to be weak. Feel free to post actual arguments and drop the fallacies and prove me wrong, though.

You two need to feed each other's delusions. When you have proof of evolution, then we'll "argue".

Already posted, though I do not foresee any argument -- just more straw men from you.

[Alchemist]

Al-Chemist brother I feel you are on the verge of losing this debate...May be I am wrong.. But it is good you've given hard time to the greatest imposter on this forum...Praying for your graceful defeat/fall...

How am I losing this debate?


People like you, who are pakistani/pashtuns have a hard time getting a visa to America because they have "muslim" names. Yet you pretend that you are embraced by Bush and Obama as victims of the taliban's brutalities?
The English came to your native country, subjugated your people, and literally white washed you out of your heritage, and I am the one losing the debate, in grace?
Look at your self my friend - if anything, the taliban are the last of the pashtuns. If tomorrow the Taliban are wiped out from the face of the planet, so are the pashtuns. The rest will assimilate with Pakistani's bollywood culture, like you have...or the N.A hollywood culture.

Did the Taliban instigate the war? Did they go to America that ****mitar is now asking "what is talibans excuse"? Why is brother killing his own brother? Does that make sense to you?

You folks are suffering from a severe case of inferiority complex so you project what you dislike over your pashtuniyat on to the taliban. You paint them as barbaric savages who willfully kill and maim their own kin and blood out of lust...but the truth is that you have been so taken out of the heart of Afghanistan that you cannot understand them, or feel their pain. You and ****mitar can't relate to those people who live in the mountains, fighting the worlds most advanced military army in the history with nothing but rusty guns and ammunitions....

Yeah...I wish I could lose with such grace as you have.

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Al-Chemist brother I feel you are on the verge of losing this debate...May be I am wrong.. But it is good you've given hard time to the greatest imposter on this forum...Praying for your graceful defeat/fall...

Alchemist gives you a hard time? You poor thing. lol