Is Pakistan going back to Pre 80's era of Booze , Bikini's and Bars ?

[logical]

I am not reading this entire thread but all I can say is that Pakistan is stronger than Afghanistan and has many prospects economically.

Tell us something new afghani.

[Iblis_Efreetzai]

Foreign soldiers are being killed by Pakistan Sponsored Taliban or Haqqani not by Afghan People . Afghan people are busy looting the $100 billion American aid announced for them . It is one of the few countries in the world today which is conquered . What else do you want the americans to do ? Take all those brown barren mountains with them to Newyork ? Afghanistan's future has effectively been decided by Pakistan since 1979 .

This narrative is bogus, as you have already conceded that Taliban are killing Pakistani soldiers. So then by this statement, you'd also be coneding Pakistan sponsors them to kill Pakistanis. If so then it reveals the weakness and incompetence of Pakistan

Afghans are occupied but not conquered
Pakistan is conquered, but not occupied.

[Iblis_Efreetzai]

I think you're a bit of the mark here.
There are some elements of Afghan Taliban who have joined Daesh in Afghanistan.I can't say anything for them.
But the rest are not anti-Pak and neither do they attack Pakistan army.
Don't confuse TTP with Afghan Taliban.
I'm not taking sides here, just stating facts.

It wasn't DAESH Attacking Pakistani forces though. Pakistan has lost control of Taliban, it only has allies with Haqqani netwirk and some of the remains of Quetta Shura. It's crumbling apart and Islamabad is in Panic.

[Manzareh]

I am not reading this entire thread but all I can say is that Pakistan is stronger than Afghanistan and has many prospects economically.

Depends what you class as strength. Im my opinion it would take america 1week maximum to completely obliterate Pakistan, it took America and 42 other countries 17 years (US military reports admit they failed in their mission), Many empires have tried to do to Afghanistan what they have done with everyone else in the region.

Although Pakistan is much more developed than Afghanistan, (no invasions,civil wars etc) Dont be fooled by patriotic Pakistanis that post pictures here trying to fool everyone that it is some affluent country, members will tell you most of the population is middle class and everything under the sun! indic culture exaggerate everything, they cant help it.

Just look at facts from a neutral perspective - Pakistan is not stable, the people in charge are cowards and sell out criminals all it takes is a few backhand dollars and they will give it all up - the top Pakistanis invest in Europe and America. How can leaders of a country be allowed to drain the economy to such an extent where they are openly taking money OUT of pakistan and into London etc, not normal population either, we are talking Presidents/prime ministers.

Even with the latest CPEC project, Pakistan will be in debt to China 60 Billion dollars or so. If Pakistan had a decent Parliament and non-currupt officials they would be getting china to contribute much much more since they are benefiting much more and much more wealthy. the leaders do not care about the people, believe me alot of Millions have been made by selling out to China already behind the scenes. The Pakistanis are not only putting in most of the labour they are also being charged for it - Hilarious.

[Insight]

Foreign soldiers are being killed by Pakistan Sponsored Taliban or Haqqani not by Afghan People . Afghan people are busy looting the $100 billion American aid announced for them . It is one of the few countries in the world today which is conquered . What else do you want the americans to do ? Take all those brown barren mountains with them to Newyork ? Afghanistan's future has effectively been decided by Pakistan since 1979 .

US has withdrawn the bulk of it's troops from Afghanistan. The Afghan insurgency who now has backing from Iran and Russia are no longer that reliable on safe havens within Pakistan.

You are fed a false narrative by Punjabi generals that they are in control of Afghanistan. Dude, they can't even respond to Indian airstrikes in Kashmir. Stop being deluded.

[Sahib]

These 2 Posters ilogical and napakistani are two Multi accounts of Karachi...he made them to divert attention away from himself after he got very unpopular here Last week or so....

What a troll he should be IP banned

[Insight]

This is what happens to people without strong sense of identity/cultural belongning... Seeing these pakis/desis act so White washed is cringeworthy to say the least....

I Dont care if Pakis whoore out their mothers to their western/white masters, as long as they keep IT in that Desi part of their country...

lmao that ^^^quote sums up a lot of it.

[Insight]

dude why are they so many Pakistani nationalists venting on this forum? Get the F out lmao. really what is bothering you guys

[Iblis_Efreetzai]

Don't kid yourself, anti-hindu and anti-India is evident. Only neutral afghan on India here is Deshrozam? And apparantly he's secular and progressive so that explains the love for India.

Science and technology has little to do with women empowerment, how many famous scientists are women? First mindset will have to change to give women basic rights which isn't possible under islamic mentality. After that some will go to discos and dance just like men do all the time even in Afghanistan and Saudi arabia.

I just wikid and Sher Shah ruled for what 12 years after taking advantage by killing Mughal leader. That's why its part of Mughal empire history. Bit like Pakistan which is British made country ruling for 70 years but with no end in sight.

I don't need to kid myself, I know who I am and I know what I intend with my posts. I'm anti Indic mentality.

Your argument is logically faulty. If Science and Technology have nothing to do with women's rights, then discos and bars won't help progress your society. Hence you've debunked your own hypothesis. But science and technology reshapes society because availability of resources allows better opportunities for everyone. Hence women are better off.

You don't need to make yourself feel better about being a cuck by rebranding discos and bars as progress. Or else we'd end up having White Europeans use your daughters for sex tourism escapades like the Britiish did with your ancestors. Those were awful times, let's not return to them.

As for Sher Shah, whatever the case, he uprooted the Mughals, and proves there was already Afghan rulership of India for many centuries already. Pakistan existed 70 years? Well yes, as loyal servants of the Queen, that's not exactly survival.

[Iblis_Efreetzai]

There is an annual $500 Million fund for Afghanistan in our budget . Many of your latest Hospitals are being built by us . Peshawar - Kabul Expressway is also funded by us . Not only that but 3000 of your students get to study in world class universities like IBA , LUMS and NUST here .

Govt grants scholarships to 3, Afghan students - Pakistan - DAWN.COM

You know this is just Printed Nonsense after you admitted to funding the Taliban who'd be destroying ALL these efforts. Let's not be disingenuous. Unless Palistan likes losing money for no reason. lol

[logical]

I don't need to kid myself, I know who I am and I know what I intend with my posts. I'm anti Indic mentality.

Your argument is logically faulty. If Science and Technology have nothing to do with women's rights, then discos and bars won't help progress your society. Hence you've debunked your own hypothesis. But science and technology reshapes society because availability of resources allows better opportunities for everyone. Hence women are better off.

You don't need to make yourself feel better about being a cuck by rebranding discos and bars as progress. Or else we'd end up having White Europeans use your daughters for sex tourism escapades like the Britiish did with your ancestors. Those were awful times, let's not return to them.

As for Sher Shah, whatever the case, he uprooted the Mughals, and proves there was already Afghan rulership of India for many centuries already. Pakistan existed 70 years? Well yes, as loyal servants of the Queen, that's not exactly survival.

Servants of queen for 70 years? We are not talking about under occupation Afghanistan here where American soldiers rape afghani women, likely happening as we write. In your dirty mind giving women basic rights is akin to offering them to whites lol. No wonder afghani women live in hell.

Sher Shah is remembered as good administrator of Mughal empire for brief time but he didn't really uproot Mughals because they soon ruled it again after 12 years.

[SupremeCommander]

Servants of queen for 70 years? We are not talking about under occupation Afghanistan here where American soldiers rape afghani women, likely happening as we write. In your dirty mind giving women basic rights is akin to offering them to whites lol. No wonder afghani women live in hell.

Sher Shah is remembered as good administrator of Mughal empire for brief time but he didn't really uproot Mughals because they soon ruled it again after 12 years.

Making disco-night club going ****s, prostituts, strippers and porn stars out of women is not progress you subhuman cuck...its degradation...

Afghan women may not be able to leave their homes, but they are far more dignified than these Indic **** lowlifes I saw in those night clubs in your country getting pumped and dumped by the white guy who was paid by your government to come and pump your women....

[Traveller]

I fail to understand how FATA is part of Pakistan if British didn't rule it. FATA mean federal administrative area, directly ruled from Islamabad.

Now FATA is merged with KPK and soon they will get police and Pakistan laws extended to them. FCR will be replaced by Riwaj act which means jirga decision will not be final and can be challenged in court. Basically like any other province of Pakistan.

The reason FATA is part of Pakistan is that the Tribal people chose to join Pakistan in a Loya Jirga. And it isn't ruled directly from Islamabad. The government just sends political agents as mediators.

[Iblis_Efreetzai]

Servants of queen for 70 years? We are not talking about under occupation Afghanistan here where American soldiers rape afghani women, likely happening as we write. In your dirty mind giving women basic rights is akin to offering them to whites lol. No wonder afghani women live in hell.

Sher Shah is remembered as good administrator of Mughal empire for brief time but he didn't really uproot Mughals because they soon ruled it again after 12 years.

There's never been a confirmed case of U.S. soldiers raping women, I stress the word confirmed here, not rumors.On the other hand, there have been confirmed cases of Brothels made by the British using Indic women in Lahore. Heera Mandi was turned into a brothel center for the British. For the sake of argument, let's assume these rapes did happen, well that means they fought and resisted it, where as you cuck your women to them willingly in hopes of trying to impress them; that's not just sexual degradation but psychological and spiritual.

He did uproot the Mughals, they weren't rulers during his time, they were driven from power, hence uprooted. That's what uprooted means. And not to mention the Khalji and Lodis who you keep side stepping. I noticed you did that earlier.

[logical]

There's never been a confirmed case of U.S. soldiers raping women, I stress the word confirmed here, not rumors.On the other hand, there have been confirmed cases of Brothels made by the British using Indic women in Lahore. Heera Mandi was turned into a brothel center for the British. For the sake of argument, let's assume these rapes did happen, well that means they fought and resisted it, where as you cuck your women to them willingly in hopes of trying to impress them; that's not just sexual degradation but psychological and spiritual.

He did uproot the Mughals, they weren't rulers during his time, they were driven from power, hence uprooted. That's what uprooted means. And not to mention the Khalji and Lodis who you keep side stepping. I noticed you did that earlier.

USA soldiers are known to pay visit to Afghani prostitute. Rape of afghani women by American soldiers is again very common. They are king makers of Afghanistan and do what pleases them.

You are just in denial. I was watching tv program today where Pakistani and Afghan politicians are discussing current issues in Islamabad. Afghani proudly claimed they received Americans with open arms and Pakistan should stop supporting militants against foreign ocupation, tell me again who's fighting? Some militants on Pakistan payroll?