Is Pakistan going back to Pre 80's era of Booze , Bikini's and Bars ?

[Pakistan]

Pakistan has always been the bad guy. No offense but nobody likes Pakistan. Not even China.

Yeah that is why everybody from Queens of Netherlands to Erdogan to Xipinjing is visiting Pakistan and nobody seems to bother coming to Afghanistan despite being the good guy .

[Pakistan]

Pakistan has always been the bad guy. No offense but nobody likes Pakistan. Not even China.

That's a Tu Quoque Fallacy, "See look everyone else does it". Admitting Pakistan is a terrorist state is in effect admitting that Pakistan is a pariah state, not run by rule of law.

U.S. made Pakistan cower. Taliban are virtually powerless, they have no popular support. All you can do is make Taliban murder a few people like thugs. There's really nothing to defeat, almost all major Taliban leaders have died or been assasinated, and they're internally fractured .

You're bragging about a broken toy. But we have Musharraf on video saying he cowered to U.S. under threat of being bombed. Pussy wimp **** there.

That's a Tu Quoque Fallacy, "See look everyone else does it". Admitting Pakistan is a terrorist state is in effect admitting that Pakistan is a pariah state, not run by rule of law.

Every state has to look after its interests and Pakistan is doing exactly that . We have bullied you in every way possible and there is nothing you can do about it . In Person Afghan's are the tamest people you will ever see because everybody has occupied and humbled them .

U.S. made Pakistan cower. Taliban are virtually powerless, they have no popular support. All you can do is make Taliban murder a few people like thugs. There's really nothing to defeat, almost all major Taliban leaders have died or been assasinated, and they're internally fractured .

Yeap that is why they almost hold sway over half of your country .

Taliban poised to seize key cities in Afghanistan

Afghanistan Loses Control of Nearly Half the Country Under Obama

The Afghan government only controlled or influenced about 57 percent of the country’s 407 districts as of mid-November 2016, marking a nearly 15 percent decrease from the same period the previous year

You're bragging about a broken toy. But we have Musharraf on video saying he cowered to U.S. under threat of being bombed. Pussy wimp **** there.

There are countless videos of American Generals saying Pakistan is causing us harm and making us look Stupid .

[Pakistan]

If Pakistan used soft power rather than terrorism to do its bidding, you may see a different attitude from Afghanistan, but Pakistan can't or won't go that route because then there's a a chance AFghanistan will be more competent and less reliant.

There is an annual $500 Million fund for Afghanistan in our budget . Many of your latest Hospitals are being built by us . Peshawar - Kabul Expressway is also funded by us . Not only that but 3000 of your students get to study in world class universities like IBA , LUMS and NUST here .

Govt grants scholarships to 3, Afghan students - Pakistan - DAWN.COM

[Manzareh]

There is an annual $500 Million fund for Afghanistan in our budget . Many of your latest Hospitals are being built by us . Peshawar - Kabul Expressway is also funded by us . Not only that but 3000 of your students get to study in world class universities like IBA , LUMS and NUST here .

Govt grants scholarships to 3,��� Afghan students - Pakistan - DAWN.COM

Pakistan is funding 500 million dollars into Afghanistan? Or do you mean investing? .. Also how much debt is Pakistan in?

[Charsi Malang]

That's a Tu Quoque Fallacy, "See look everyone else does it". Admitting Pakistan is a terrorist state is in effect admitting that Pakistan is a pariah state, not run by rule of law.

Every state has to look after its interests and Pakistan is doing exactly that . We have bullied you in every way possible and there is nothing you can do about it . In Person Afghan's are the tamest people you will ever see because everybody has occupied and humbled them .

U.S. made Pakistan cower. Taliban are virtually powerless, they have no popular support. All you can do is make Taliban murder a few people like thugs. There's really nothing to defeat, almost all major Taliban leaders have died or been assasinated, and they're internally fractured .

Yeap that is why they almost hold sway over half of your country .

Taliban poised to seize key cities in Afghanistan

Afghanistan Loses Control of Nearly Half the Country Under Obama

The Afghan government only controlled or influenced about 57 percent of the country’s 407 districts as of mid-November 2016, marking a nearly 15 percent decrease from the same period the previous year

You're bragging about a broken toy. But we have Musharraf on video saying he cowered to U.S. under threat of being bombed. Pussy wimp **** there.

There are countless videos of American Generals saying Pakistan is causing us harm and making us look Stupid .

I think you will find that everybody who has tried to occupy Afghanistan has been humbled themselves. Afghans are not a conquered people and have throughout history fought and eventually won.

[Pakistan]

Pakistan is funding 500 million dollars into Afghanistan? Or do you mean investing? .. Also how much debt is Pakistan in?

$500 million is the annual aid to Afghanistan to build Hospitals , Schools and Roads . How is debt even an issue here ? As far as your economy is moving at a fast pace debt is never an issue . Our economy is growing at 5.5 % this year . It shouldn't be a worry .

[Pakistan]

I think you will find that everybody who has tried to occupy Afghanistan has been humbled themselves. Afghans are not a conquered people and have throughout history fought and eventually won.

That is one of the biggest piece of bull**** taught to Afghans so that they feel better about themselves . They have been occupied countless times in last 5 decades let alone history . But foreigners are never an issue for Afghanistan as when they go away they start fighting and killing each other .

[Kabulistan]

Indics are beta people in behavior and perhaps also genetically, the whole world knows this...loool

Can you imagine white people adopting Indic culture, like these Indics are adopting white people culture? lol Indics are bunch of betas, and what's worse, they have no shame about being beta...lol

[Kabulistan]

That is one of the biggest piece of bull**** thought to Afghans so that they feel better about themselves . They have been occupied countless times in last 5 decades let alone history . But foreigners are never an issue for Afghanistan as when they go away they start fighting and killing each other .

you moron, every nation has been invaded at some point or another...what matters is how the people respond to the invasion...that's what makes the difference betweek weak beta males and strong alpha males...

[Sahib]

this thread is stupid...

and the desis here are wrong... a western lifestyle (discos, booze, strip clubs, night clubs, porn, loose/easy women, etc.) is not the only way to live life...everything in this world is a matter of interpretation...

what one person/group of people like(s), isn't something another person will like too, or must do too... the afghan posters calling desis beta, cucks, etc. are justified in doing this, because the desis generally seem to accept western lifestyle as the holy truth without thinking of their own...

western lifestyle being the ''right'' way of life, is an interpretation of western people themselves...of course westerners want to feel they are the best, and that their way of life is superior than others...this is called bias...but it's only their interpretation...and only spineless people without capability to think on their own accept it

[Pakistan]

you moron, every nation has been invaded at some point or another...what matters is how the people respond to the invasion...that's what makes the difference betweek weak beta males and strong alpha males...

Afghanistan is one of thew few countries in the world today as we speak who is occupied . The days of occupying countries is gone as this is not 17th-18th century . So its a rarity to see one country occupying another one these days . Afghans have welcomed American occupation with open arms .

[Firdousi]

Afghanistan is one of thew few countries in the world today as we speak who is occupied . The days of occupying countries is gone as this is not 17th-18th century . So its a rarity to see one country occupying another one these days . Afghans have welcomed American occupation with open arms .

Repeat with me, dalkhor "enough is enough!" lmao

Dont worry. CPEC will solve everything. :D

[Iblis_Efreetzai]

We have bullied you in every way possible and there is nothing you can do about it . In Person Afghan's are the tamest people you will ever see because everybody has occupied and humbled them .

Sure the Government doesn't control much, but this doesn't mean the Taliban are "in control"

Like I said before, Taliban are fractured, Pakistan has almost NO control over the Taliban because most of them have splintered off. As a movement they're weak. It's only a few commanders here and there that are gaining any ground and even they're not really in line with the Quetta Shura.

https://www.nytimes.com/2016/11/01/world/asia/afghanistan-taliban-peace-talks.html

Mr. Agha’s letter, which he sent in July but has not yet been answered by the new Taliban leader, Mawlawi Haibatullah Akhundzada, was a sign that not all senior Taliban figures were so reluctant to talk. In fact, he insisted that it should be a priority for the insurgency — and that the Taliban movement must change to allow it or risk disintegrating into splinter groups, making way for bandits and Islamic State loyalists.

I mean they wouldn't be attacking Pakistani forces otherwise now would they? You wouldn't be cheering Taliban murdering your own countrty men now?

Five Pakistani soldiers killed in Taliban attack at Afghanistan border - UPI.com

Mohmand agency is one of the tribal districts of the Khyber-Pakhtunkhwa area, at the northernmost point of the Pakistan-Afghanistan border.

The Afghan Taliban announced responsibility for the cross-border attack.

All this indicates is that Pakistan's terrorist policy has backfired. .........Doesn't look like those Afghans are tame and humbled. ......

[Iblis_Efreetzai]

There's a difference between occupation and colonialization

This is humbling (colonization)





This is not (occupation)

[Iblis_Efreetzai]

you moron, every nation has been invaded at some point or another...what matters is how the people respond to the invasion...that's what makes the difference betweek weak beta males and strong alpha males...

It's ok, As a Pakistani Nationalisti, he's conflicted with the fact that the Identity he's so loyal to is really the effect of Colonialization.