Is Pakistan going back to Pre 80's era of Booze , Bikini's and Bars ?

[logical]

The reason FATA is part of Pakistan is that the Tribal people chose to join Pakistan in a Loya Jirga. And it isn't ruled directly from Islamabad. The government just sends political agents as mediators.

Just like other parts of Pakistan voted to join. But all were under British rule like FATA. Islamabad directly rule FATA and it's integral part of Pakistan.

Only difference was before American invasion army was not deployed on border like we don't have army on Chinese and Iranian border.

[Charsi Malang]

I fail to understand how FATA is part of Pakistan if British didn't rule it. FATA mean federal administrative area, directly ruled from Islamabad.

Now FATA is merged with KPK and soon they will get police and Pakistan laws extended to them. FCR will be replaced by Riwaj act which means jirga decision will not be final and can be challenged in court. Basically like any other province of Pakistan.

FATA is semi autonomous. Not directly ruled from Islamabad. Pretty much independent. What on Earth are you talking about? Now it will slowly become more Desi. Balley balley.

[Charsi Malang]

Just like other parts of Pakistan voted to join. But all were under British rule like FATA. Islamabad directly rule FATA and it's integral part of Pakistan.

Only difference was before American invasion army was not deployed on border like we don't have army on Chinese and Iranian border.

How the hell can it be directly ruled from Islamabad if Pakistani laws did not extend there? Are you crazy? How can an entire market in Darra Adam khel be allowed to churn out guns constantly if it was directly under the rule of Islamabad? How comes you didn't have to have a number plate on cars in tribal areas? How comes they didn't pay tax ever? How comes outsiders couldn't buy land there? How comes outsiders couldn't even go there? How comes if you shot someone in the cities and ran away to the tribal areas the police couldn't come after you? Don't try and educate me about tribal areas. My family live within walking distance of tribal areas.

[Iblis_Efreetzai]

USA soldiers are known to pay visit to Afghani prostitute. Rape of afghani women by American soldiers is again very common. They are king makers of Afghanistan and do what pleases them.

You are just in denial. I was watching tv program today where Pakistani and Afghan politicians are discussing current issues in Islamabad. Afghani proudly claimed they received Americans with open arms and Pakistan should stop supporting militants against foreign ocupation, tell me again who's fighting? Some militants on Pakistan payroll?

Nope, I'm sorry but there have been no confirmed incidences of this, you're just inventing things or going by rumors as only a defense mechanism. I will say the Farangyan werent king makers in Pakistan because they were and still are your kings, Which is why you long to emulate their clubs and bars

[Charsi Malang]

USA soldiers are known to pay visit to Afghani prostitute. Rape of afghani women by American soldiers is again very common. They are king makers of Afghanistan and do what pleases them.

You are just in denial. I was watching tv program today where Pakistani and Afghan politicians are discussing current issues in Islamabad. Afghani proudly claimed they received Americans with open arms and Pakistan should stop supporting militants against foreign ocupation, tell me again who's fighting? Some militants on Pakistan payroll?

Anyone can visit prostitutes. Do you know how common venereal diseases were in the times of the British Raj?

[Traveller]

Just like other parts of Pakistan voted to join. But all were under British rule like FATA. Islamabad directly rule FATA and it's integral part of Pakistan.

Only difference was before American invasion army was not deployed on border like we don't have army on Chinese and Iranian border.

If you read some British sources they'll mention that the actual "border" wasn't with Afghanistan. It was with the Tribal Areas. The Durand Line was just the demarcation between Afghanistan and Britain's spheres of influence, not actual control.

[Traveller]

How the hell can it be directly ruled from Islamabad if Pakistani laws did not extend there? Are you crazy? How can an entire market in Darra Adam khel be allowed to churn out guns constantly if it was directly under the rule of Islamabad? How comes you didn't have to have a number plate on cars in tribal areas? How comes they didn't pay tax ever? How comes outsiders couldn't buy land there? How comes outsiders couldn't even go there? How comes if you shot someone in the cities and ran away to the tribal areas the police couldn't come after you? Don't try and educate me about tribal areas. My family live within walking distance of tribal areas.

A lot of those things things are also true for PATA(Provincially Administered Tribal Areas), which in KPK mostly compromises of the Malakand division(Swat, Dir, Buner, Shangla, Chitral) as well as all of the Pashtun areas of Balochistan with the exception of Quetta. My best friend is from Swat and he told me they don't pay taxes there.

[logical]

How the hell can it be directly ruled from Islamabad if Pakistani laws did not extend there? Are you crazy? How can an entire market in Darra Adam khel be allowed to churn out guns constantly if it was directly under the rule of Islamabad? How comes you didn't have to have a number plate on cars in tribal areas? How comes they didn't pay tax ever? How comes outsiders couldn't buy land there? How comes outsiders couldn't even go there? How comes if you shot someone in the cities and ran away to the tribal areas the police couldn't come after you? Don't try and educate me about tribal areas. My family live within walking distance of tribal areas.

you don't seem to understand what Islamabad rule is. Let me explain it to you...

If someone from FATA was involved in crime and if he was not arrested by tribals and handed over to political agents. Then whole tribe will be punished. Get it?

Pakistan laws were not applied in FATA but there was price to pay for. Now FATA people don't want that retarded law of crime by someone else and punishment to all. They also don't want jirga ruling to be final. They have merged with KPK for this reason alone. This was only possible if Islamabad was ruling FATA, it's not merging foreign land. FATA people are settled all over the country.

Now new laws will be applied. People who want to invest in FATA could buy land there. It will become open to world, anyone with money could go there and invest like in rest of Pakistan.

[toughpashtun]

It wasn't DAESH Attacking Pakistani forces though. Pakistan has lost control of Taliban, it only has allies with Haqqani netwirk and some of the remains of Quetta Shura. It's crumbling apart and Islamabad is in Panic.

I never said that Daesh attacked Pakistani forces.TTP attacks Pakistani forces,and TTP and Daesh are friends these days.
Afg Taliban/Quetta Shura/Haqqani network has never attacked Pakistan,neither the army nor civilians.

Plus, the Afg Taliban are not as much divided as you think.They are quite a united bunch.Those factions that have split off are negligible.Pak establishment enjoys good ties with the Afg resistance as a whole (Afg Taliban + Haqqani).

[logical]

Depends what you class as strength. Im my opinion it would take america 1week maximum to completely obliterate Pakistan, it took America and 42 other countries 17 years (US military reports admit they failed in their mission), Many empires have tried to do to Afghanistan what they have done with everyone else in the region..

Holy**** and you blame us of exaggerating. It didn't even take Americans 2 minutes to obliterate Afghanistan because there was nothing to face off. They came, settled, Afghan leaders run of to hide in mountains and then low level insurgency started like in anywhere they have gone. Even Soviet Union didn't dare to cross durrand line when Pakistan was openly killing them in proxy war.

[Iblis_Efreetzai]

I never said that Daesh attacked Pakistani forces.TTP attacks Pakistani forces,and TTP and Daesh are friends these days.
Afg Taliban/Quetta Shura/Haqqani network has never attacked Pakistan,neither the army nor civilians.

Plus, the Afg Taliban are not as much divided as you think.They are quite a united bunch.Those factions that have split off are negligible.Pak establishment enjoys good ties with the Afg resistance as a whole (Afg Taliban + Haqqani).

Afghan Taliban took responsibility for attacking Pakistani Army.

[Pakistan]

Depends what you class as strength. Im my opinion it would take america 1week maximum to completely obliterate Pakistan, it took America and 42 other countries 17 years (US military reports admit they failed in their mission), Many empires have tried to do to Afghanistan what they have done with everyone else in the region.

Although Pakistan is much more developed than Afghanistan, (no invasions,civil wars etc) Dont be fooled by patriotic Pakistanis that post pictures here trying to fool everyone that it is some affluent country, members will tell you most of the population is middle class and everything under the sun! indic culture exaggerate everything, they cant help it.

Just look at facts from a neutral perspective - Pakistan is not stable, the people in charge are cowards and sell out criminals all it takes is a few backhand dollars and they will give it all up - the top Pakistanis invest in Europe and America. How can leaders of a country be allowed to drain the economy to such an extent where they are openly taking money OUT of pakistan and into London etc, not normal population either, we are talking Presidents/prime ministers.

Even with the latest CPEC project, Pakistan will be in debt to China 60 Billion dollars or so. If Pakistan had a decent Parliament and non-currupt officials they would be getting china to contribute much much more since they are benefiting much more and much more wealthy. the leaders do not care about the people, believe me alot of Millions have been made by selling out to China already behind the scenes. The Pakistanis are not only putting in most of the labour they are also being charged for it - Hilarious.

Depends what you class as strength. Im my opinion it would take america 1week maximum to completely obliterate Pakistan

Yes it took 17 years for them in Afghanistan but it will take them 1 week against a country which has 200 nuclear warheads , 1 million army , 500 Fighter jets , 3000 Tanks , Sophisticated Missiles etc . I would advise you to take less of that Afghan hash you have before typing anything Stupid next time .

Dont be fooled by patriotic Pakistanis that post pictures here trying to fool everyone that it is some affluent country, members will tell you most of the population is middle class and everything under the sun! indic culture exaggerate everything, they cant help it.

Yes the world is fooled by our growing economy . Pakistan has managed to pull the wool over multiple international economic institutions .

[Pakistan]

You know this is just Printed Nonsense after you admitted to funding the Taliban who'd be destroying ALL these efforts. Let's not be disingenuous. Unless Palistan likes losing money for no reason. lol

If Afghans can eat up the $100 billion American aid then $500 million is peanuts for them . Most corrupt people on this earth .

[toughpashtun]

Afghan Taliban took responsibility for attacking Pakistani Army.

I am not aware of any such incident.Do you mind sharing any link or source to back up your claim?

[Manzareh]

Depends what you class as strength. Im my opinion it would take america 1week maximum to completely obliterate Pakistan

Yes it took 17 years for them in Afghanistan but it will take them 1 week against a country which has 200 nuclear warheads , 1 million army , 500 Fighter jets , 3000 Tanks , Sophisticated Missiles etc . I would advise you to take less of that Afghan hash you have before typing anything Stupid next time .

Dont be fooled by patriotic Pakistanis that post pictures here trying to fool everyone that it is some affluent country, members will tell you most of the population is middle class and everything under the sun! indic culture exaggerate everything, they cant help it.

Yes the world is fooled by our growing economy . Pakistan has managed to pull the wool over multiple international economic institutions .

The other logic guy above just said the soviet union were scared of Pakistan lolll wtf do they teach you guys at school hahaha too much bolly lollywood.

"200 nukes blah blah" what they gunna do with them nuclear warheads? fire them at usa?? fire them to europe? dont be ridiculous those warheads are useless against super powers. Dude where was all that artillery when 90,000 of your brave soldiers surrendered to india? did it come in use? LOOL you are in the history books and hold the record for the most people surrendering since WW1. Thats the difference - not nukes or tanks, you Nationalists are so blinded with the indoctrination that you are some superior force so when you are faced with reality you get scared, Afghans do not mind becoming martyrs, the Pakistanis were scared of death - in war that is what really matters. Pakistan does not stand a chance against any stable country thats why you concentrate on an economical ****hole like afghanistan to make you feel tough.