Is Pakistan going back to Pre 80's era of Booze , Bikini's and Bars ?

[Pakistan]

Its not a secret that Pre 80's Pakistan was a liberal and open society with bars and even strip clubs operating in Karachi . It was the Hub of Nightlife activities all over Asia . Then Zia came and Everything stopped . The Trend reversed again during Musharraf's time ( who was one of the most secular leader in Pakistan's history ) when fashion shows became Westernized clothes started shrinking and most of the universities started having Pool and Halloween Parties . For people that say Pakistan has become more Islamized I say its the opposite , the Pakistan society with increasing urbanization and growing middle class has gone liberal and open . These things vanished during the 80's and 90's and sprung up again around musharraf's time . Go to any Party happening inside Pakistan's universities and you will be reminded of a society that has gone westernised . Some of the fashion shows will not look out of Place in London or New York . What do you guys think of this change ?









Normal Scenes in Pakistan Fashion Show these days






So is Pakistan reversing back to how it was Pre - Zia days ?

[Kabulistan]

Its not a secret that Pre 80's Pakistan was a liberal and open society with bars and even strip clubs operating in Karachi . It was the Hub of Nightlife activities all over Asia . Then Zia came and Everything stopped . The Trend reversed again during Musharraf's time ( who was one of the most secular leader in Pakistan's history ) when fashion shows became Westernized clothes started shrinking and most of the universities started having Pool and Halloween Parties . For people that say Pakistan has become more Islamized I say its the opposite , the Pakistan society with increasing urbanization and growing middle class has gone liberal and open . These things vanished during the 80's and 90's and sprung up again around musharraf's time . Go to any Party happening inside Pakistan's universities and you will be reminded of a society that has gone westernised . Some of the fashion shows will not look out of Place in London or New York . What do you guys think of this change ?









Normal Scenes in Pakistan Fashion Show these days






So is Pakistan reversing back to how it was Pre - Zia days ?

This is what happens to people without strong sense of identity/cultural belongning... Seeing these pakis/desis act so White washed is cringeworthy to say the least....

I Dont care if Pakis whoore out their mothers to their western/white masters, as long as they keep IT in that Desi part of their country...

[Pakistan]

This is what happens to people without strong sense of identity/cultural belongning... Seeing these pakis/desis act so White washed is cringeworthy to say the least....

I Dont care if Pakis whoore out their mothers to their western/white masters, as long as they keep IT in that Desi part of their country...

Pakistan has a much more stronger identity than Afghanistan Hands down be it westernised or not . Its not only the Desi Region These things are slowly starting to get to Peshawar now .

[Kakar-Wardak]

To have a liberal state you need a welfare state alongside so it can take care of the bad choices women make once they taste freedom, let's be frank Pakistan will never be a welfare state.

[Charsi Malang]

Pakistan has a much more stronger identity than Afghanistan Hands down be it westernised or not . Its not only the Desi Region These things are slowly starting to get to Peshawar now .

Please explain how Pakistan has a stronger identity than Afghanistan.

[Kabulistan]

Pakistan has a much more stronger identity than Afghanistan Hands down be it westernised or not . Its not only the Desi Region These things are slowly starting to get to Peshawar now .

and what exactly is your identity? Paki? Pakistani? a 70 year old fabrication based solely on religion, you call that a strong identity?
your official website says you are descended from Iranians, Afghans, Turks and Arabs and your country officially call it self Muslim, in what world is any of that in display an example of Islamic country? yet You say you people don't seem like an identity/culturally confused bunch?...lol

All I see there is a colonized race of Apus trying to mimick their Anglo masters...but your doing a bad job at that too...Either go full blown white washed like many other colonized races (mimick your white masters to the last detail), or don't at all...I couldn't help but cringe looking at those Apus in night clubs...lol

[Kabulistan]

Pakistan has a much more stronger identity than Afghanistan Hands down be it westernised or not . Its not only the Desi Region These things are slowly starting to get to Peshawar now .

I was talking aboute the night clubs, consuming alcohol, loose/cheap women, etc... things not in line with people adhering to Islam.

Fashion shows, as long as they are not walking naked/half naked, I don't see any immorality there if the purpose is showcasing clothing for sale...

[Pakistan]

and what exactly is your identity? Paki? Pakistani?

your official website says you are descended from Iranians, Afghans, Turks and Arabs and your country officially call it self Muslim, in what world is any of that in display an example of Islamic country? and You say you people don't seem like a identity/culturally confused bunch?...lol

All I see there is a colonized race of Apus trying to mimick their Anglo masters...but your doing a bad job at that too...Either go full blown white washed like many other colonized races (mimick your white masters to the last detail), or don't at all...I couldn't help but cringe looking at those Apus in night clubs...lol

Isn't it ironic that a country that claims to be one of the most ghairatmand people are actually one of the most miserable people in the world while according to you people with Identity crisis are happy and much ahead ?

World Happiness Report 217 – World Happiness Report

Pakistan ranked 80th
Afghanistan 141

You would think that people with such a strong sense of identity would be Happy atleast . In Pakistan we lay more importance to being a Pakistani . In Afghanistan your loyalty only lies to your tribe , Money and other countries . That is why Kabul resembles a village rather than a capital because it has been razed down by afghans themselves countless times .

[Kabulistan]

Isn't it ironic that a country that claims to be one of the most ghairatmand people are actually one of the most miserable people in the world while according to you people with Identity crisis are happy and much ahead ?

World Happiness Report 217 – World Happiness Report

Pakistan ranked 80th
Afghanistan 141

You would think that people with such a strong sense of identity would be Happy atleast . In Pakistan we lay more importance to being a Pakistani . In Afghanistan your loyalty only lies to your tribe , Money and other countries . That is why Kabul resembles a village rather than a capital because it has been razed down by afghans themselves countless times .

Comparison is unfair...one would assume it'd be harder to be happy, if your in the middle of a war...

[HindustanTimes]

Its not a secret that Pre 80's Pakistan was a liberal and open society with bars and even strip clubs operating in Karachi . It was the Hub of Nightlife activities all over Asia . Then Zia came and Everything stopped . The Trend reversed again during Musharraf's time ( who was one of the most secular leader in Pakistan's history ) when fashion shows became Westernized clothes started shrinking and most of the universities started having Pool and Halloween Parties . For people that say Pakistan has become more Islamized I say its the opposite , the Pakistan society with increasing urbanization and growing middle class has gone liberal and open . These things vanished during the 80's and 90's and sprung up again around musharraf's time . Go to any Party happening inside Pakistan's universities and you will be reminded of a society that has gone westernised . Some of the fashion shows will not look out of Place in London or New York . What do you guys think of this change ?



So is Pakistan reversing back to how it was Pre - Zia days ?

I don't know....what would you prefer?

[Pakistan]

Comparison is unfair...one would assume it'd be harder to be happy, if your in the middle of a war...

But what about all the Ghairat , 5000 year old history and all that **** ? Afghans by nature are tribal people and prefer to be loyal to their tribe rather than the country . It has been proven time and time again .

[Da Bannu Mazdigar]

muzh akhpal jwand pa topay wal burkay katalo k terr ku ao ar rawan nasal bay mazay kavi

de nia ye ****

I don't want this to happen ever

[Kakar-Wardak]

This is what British educated jinnah wanted a nation of wine drinkers and disco dancers they are only imitating their father.

[RoohMalang]

Why are the Afghans on this site so dumb? They keep falling for Karachi's multiple accounts. LoL

[HindustanTimes]

Why are the Afghans on this site so dumb? They keep falling for Karachi's multiple accounts. LoL

How do you know OP is Karachi's other account?