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[Fahd]

^LOOK if u cant understand and see it wrote afghanistan go and hit ur head :p
i post the other pic too its kapul so u r idoit to ignor the other pic too :p

and whats ur prob if its not a pashtun tradtion or its !!

its a pashtun tradtion . lol :p

[roadrunner]

^LOOK if u cant understand and see it wrote afghanistan go and hit ur head :p
i post the other pic too its kapul so u r idoit to ignor the other pic too :p

and whats ur prob if its not a pashtun tradtion or its !!

its a pashtun tradtion . lol :p

yes doh, i understand that.

What I'm saying is that your photo is a Persian woman in Afghanistan, not a Pashtun woman.

[graveyardofempires]

Fahd wrora

leave these people in their own ignorance
they will not be happy until you accept ignorance as knowledge ,lies as truth.

[Fahd]

yes doh, i understand that.

What I'm saying is that your photo is a Persian woman in Afghanistan, not a Pashtun woman.

An 1842 Lithography work by James Rattray showing a Persian (Qizilbash) woman in Afghanistan with a burqa next to her .
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did i got it wrong or they mean the persain is th women who show her face while they didnt say any thing about the burqa one , right

oooook if i got it wrong then what about the other pic

????

-sorry if i was rude but i waste ma time and u still dont understand and still saying its not :S LOL
lol i should keep the fake pic with good history num LOL but i didnt like to to but fake pic even its not lie LOL

[Fahd]

Fahd wrora

leave these people in their own ignorance
they will not be happy until you accept ignorance as knowledge ,lies as truth.

yes i will stop there bro
saaar ma daad showa lol i got headache :p

[qunduz92]

the point is that veiling is undoubtedly an age-old pashtun tradition but the sophiscated chadari has been traditionally, in afghanistan, a practice primarily of farsizaban women and later adopted by pashtuns.

that is not to say, however, that covering and veiling in itself is not a historical pashtun tradition, because it is and there is an overwhelming amount of evidence for this.

[ScimitarXEdge]

I didn't understand what you said before. Surely warfare is not the sign of a healthy society?

If you would argue that Pashtun lands have always been in war, I'd say not. Only in recent history has there been a constant struggle for its resources and other things.

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Its origins would be foreign, and therefore not an indigenous tradition.

Many Anthropologists would disagree; some would argue that martial prowess is how societies became viable.

[ScimitarXEdge]

I'm not grasping at the obscure. Very solid references exist about how Pashtun women used to dress pre-Islam, and just after Islam.

It is a simple fact that Pashtun women did not wear any veil traditionally.

Your use of paintings from the 18th century is as pointless as these pictures from the 16th century Akbernama, that show Kabuli women without veils.

you realize that Kabul city was entirely a Tajik city during the 1500's right?!?!?!?!

Read what Babur says, he used to call the entire area of what's now known as Afghanistan as "Kabul" but when it came to the CITY itself, he identified it's inhabitants as TAJIKS, not Pashtuns.

In the country of Kābul there are many and various tribes. Its valleys and plains are inhabited by Tūrks, Aimāks, and Arabs. In the city and the greater part of the villages, the population consists of Tājiks . Many other of the villages and districts are occupied by Pashāis, Parāchis, Tājiks, Berekis, and Afghans. In the hill-country to the west, reside the Hazāras and Nukderis. Among the Hazāra and Nukderi tribes, there are some who speak the Moghul language. In the hill-country to the north-east lies Kaferistān, such as Kattor and Gebrek. To the south is Afghanistān... There are eleven or twelve different languages spoken in Kābul: Arabic, Persian, Tūrki, Moghuli, Hindi, Afghani, Pashāi, Parāchi, Geberi, Bereki, and Lamghāni...[24]
—Babur, 1525

Showing a picture by Akbar's court which would most likely be depicting Tajiks, and not Pashtuns is not proof of what Pashtuns themselves used to do; FURTHERMORE

your own reference disproves your claim .....there are actually NO WOMEN AT ALL in your miniature. You have TERRIBLE eyes.


It seems you're not from a Pashtun or Pashtun related background; it's usually outsiders who have this habit of conglomerating current regions of Afghanistan as being all historically Pashtun.

[kakargirl]

that's fine. So you dont know the antescendents of the Pashto language.

It's probably why you don't know about the veil being a foreign phenomenon.

wey wey te singa khabray kawai, spinsterge sarray,za khepal pashtu zhebai peezahenem,te zahn ta so wai,lol

[ScimitarXEdge]

wey wey te singa khabray kawai, spinsterge sarray,za khepal pashtu zhebai peezahenem,te zahn ta so wai,lol

he doesnt understand a word you said

dai khpel pakhto na pohegi aw ne pezhni dasey khalko hila lari chi pakhtoon kedaay shawai di

yad kah dasey ghago la yaw sarray cha fikr kawi chi da kabul khahar pa da 16th century ki pakhtano khahar woh

[kakargirl]

1st you don't even know how to spell the word antescedent lol, you want whole origin of history il pm you after you answer my questions in pm , who you are as i remember you made a whole thread wanting to find out how old everyone was, so stop hiding behind your avatar, second of veil means curtain our traditions have always kept women and men separate so this means a veil always was there in our culture, MRS HSE who ever she is , lol , is not the mother of pashtuns the pic you gave is kabul, kabul back years ago and even now has majority tajiks, so get your facts right show me pics of my areas qandahar and helmand my own home place show me something, culture we understand as we were born into it not some author who starts writing about us years later get your fact straight.

[kakargirl]

he doesnt understand a word you said

dai khpel pakhto na pohegi aw ne pezhni dasey khalko hila lari chi pakhtoon kedaay shawai di

lol wrora sey wai lol deera manana

[graveyardofempires]

wey wey te singa khabray kawai, spinsterge sarray,za khepal pashtu zhebai peezahenem,te zahn ta so wai,lol

Graney khorey
da asey bakwas kayee ,prey yeda che lagya yee.
nwar pe dwa goto ne petegey.

dey chartha wikipedia aw google ke se lwasteley dey aw os koshesh kayee che zemung culture aw folklore barey ke mung ta sabaq rakey..

mazghe dey pe me khora.

[kakargirl]

he doesnt understand a word you said

dai khpel pakhto na pohegi aw ne pezhni dasey khalko hila lari chi pakhtoon kedaay shawai di

yad kah dasey ghago la yaw sarray cha fikr kawi chi da kabul khahar pa da 16th century ki pakhtano khahar woh

wrora te sey khabarai kawai ,roadrunner asai zahn te so wai.lol

[kakargirl]

Graney khorey
da asey bakwas kayee ,prey yeda che lagya yee.
nwar pe dwa goto ne petegey.

dey chartha wikipedia aw google ke se lwasteley dey aw os koshesh kayee che zemung culture aw folklore barey ke mung ta sabaq rakey..

mazghe dey pe me khora.

sey, sey ,gye wror road runner che de , deera baahkwaas kai khataabassem kai,akhpela na poheeghi che pashtu so de,bul kasahn la post kai che antescendent so de lol ma wai de mrs hse namaainda wai lol