Were their any famous Pashtun philosophers or mathematicians

[HalloIsBack]

rtr treats me always with respect!

[RevolutionThroughReason]

I had respect for you as a user on here before but you can't seem to talk to anyone with respect. You try to shove your opinions down peoples throats as facts and get offended when people don't agree with you. Your'e random hissy fits really annoy me and your'e two stooges here (hallo and that tajik khursani guy) are ruining this forum with their trolling along with you as their ring leader. I highly doubt you can say half the crap on here in real life in someones face and have the guts to tell a pashtun that he is a backwards, uneducated and tribal because if you did, you would literally be beaten senseless. I've never met such a beghirat half breed pashtun in my life who hates his own people and blames them for the problems in his pathetic life. That Bedouin blood of yours must have canceled out the pride and courage that pashtuns usually carry.

In short, go F yourself.

LOL @ Tajik Khuarasani

This is what I mean; you'r e clueless; you make up this imaginary scenario to appease the fact that you are exposed as a poser. The reason people treat you with disrespect is because you say ridiculous and fallacious garbage that is KNOWN to be false.

When you say stuff like "Pashtuns invented Sanskrit" you make an embarrassment of yourself. Courage is not being a shameless moron peddling mythology; courage is embracing the Truth.... and for this reason you will never have courage.

[Toramana]

70 millions Pashtuns today and for the last many thousands years we have just few names and those too are not purely mathematicians or philosophers in the real sense of the terms.

We have to wake up guys,,this is shameful!

RTR has great potential. He can fill this gap. He being Mutazalite can become the first Pashtun philosopher of the world and history by a having a degree in Philosophy and conducting some research and already he is a mathematician and by discovering some thing new he can earn global fame.

That is worst injustice. You are talking of a fake like RTR but are ignoring the real genuine famous Pashtun like Toramana altogether.

[RevolutionThroughReason]

That is worst injustice. You are talking of a fake like RTR but are ignoring the real genuine famous Pashtun like Toramana altogether.

Well because I'm better qualified than you Toramana, you have to give credit where credit is due.

[DaZahroJaam.]

this thread is an embarrassment. i can't believe you are fighting like dogs for the title of a modern day pashtun philosopher. i bet he/she is sorry he/she asked.

[Sanzerkhel]

this thread is an embarrassment. i can't believe you are fighting like dogs for the title of a modern day pashtun philosopher. i bet he/she is sorry he/she asked.

I'm thinking of remaking the thread and giving this forum another chance, this drama is just immature and stupid.

[DaZahroJaam.]

you will have to excuse them. they tend to get over excited when their husbands leave town.

[Kushan Prince]

I'm thinking of remaking the thread and giving this forum another chance, this drama is just immature and stupid.

Sorry for going off topic with that spineless bafoon. Anyways back to the topic of this thread.

Was panini pashtun by any chance? He was from modern day KPK.

[Khyber Pass]

Pashtuns are known to be tough, brave and warriors, we have a great conquest/military based past but on the other hand in terms of science naa not really sadly.

[Naveed Safi]

The fact the in pukhtoon culture we didn't wrote things and stuff, even in todays world we hesitate writing deeds of partnership and promisory notes because we believe that when you give a word do not abolish it, so there wasnt the culture of writting stuff instead they believe that the learnings should be transferred from heart to heart not in written form, so we don't actually know if there were any mathematician or not. Coming to philosopher, every man we had was a philosopher

[Naveed Safi]

nahh pashtuns are backwards, illiterate jaahils like any other sand negro nation

the way you talk suggests that you've had your childhood in Bannu,****face

[Tjanaparh]

The fact the in pukhtoon culture we didn't wrote things and stuff, even in todays world we hesitate writing deeds of partnership and promisory notes because we believe that when you give a word do not abolish it, so there wasnt the culture of writting stuff instead they believe that the learnings should be transferred from heart to heart not in written form, so we don't actually know if there were any mathematician or not. Coming to philosopher, every man we had was a philosopher

That was quiet valid for Aryan culture and is still for some smaller nations.
Modern western civilization sees all partly with eyes influenced by their owwn civilization and by the influence of Semitic culture through the religion. It makes that literacy is seen as very important part of education, while in older times in Aryan culture it wasn't that way.
I have no idea concerning Pashtuns, but for us for example scripture wasn't seen as positive and literacy was seen as weakness out of the non capability to remember.

In addition the scriptures used in India , Persia, Sogdiana.... are all of more or less Semitic origin, so is our Armenian script. They were introductions after people changed and left the principles of their culture.

[Badlun]

the way you talk suggests that you've had your childhood in Bannu,****face

Bannu is also a Pashtun area. It means Pashtuns have fame or notoriety in homosexuality but not in Philosophy and Mathematics!

[Tjanaparh]

I don't undertand, what happens to You all?
Why you call Pashtuns in any bad ways?
I mean it is a Pashtun forum, why you insult yourself so badly?
What is so funny in it?
Pashtuns, backward, racist, ****sexual....?

What is this inferioritycomplex? every culture may have its dark and bad sides, but why cannot you simply strengthen your good sides and stop blaming pashtuns for all bad?
I learned so meny great things only superficially learning about Pashtuns. I think it is not constructive and out of any respect to talk so, specially that most of the people here are from the west and some didn't even grow in Afghanistan, so it is not just only to judge your people from distance. And specially to do it in english so that all foreigners can read it.
You are all far from home, and instead of insulting yourself unite and act at least in something small to make something better for your people.

All the best to You!!

[Badlun]

I don't undertand, what happens to You all?
Why you call Pashtuns in any bad ways?
I mean it is a Pashtun forum, why you insult yourself so badly?
What is so funny in it?
Pashtuns, backward, racist, ****sexual....?

What is this inferioritycomplex? every culture may have its dark and bad sides, but why cannot you simply strengthen your good sides and stop blaming pashtuns for all bad?
I learned so meny great things only superficially learning about Pashtuns. I think it is not constructive and out of any respect to talk so, specially that most of the people here are from the west and some didn't even grow in Afghanistan, so it is not just only to judge your people from distance. And specially to do it in english so that all foreigners can read it.
You are all far from home, and instead of insulting yourself unite and act at least in something small to make something better for your people.

All the best to You!!

Yes you are right. There are issues with Pashtuns but there are positive things also.

We are all human beings but all human beings are not the same as all races, nations, people, ethnic groups, individuals have some distinctive characteristics thats why we are Pashtuns, Germans and Arabs etc. All with their culture, values, anthropology, genetics, color, stature , religions, countries, geographies, traditions etc etc.

This I am talikng in positive sense not in the sense of racial discrimination or apartheid. We Pashtuns are proud to be Pashtuns but we are not proud to be Germans or Arabs. Why because we are distinct , we are different,,good or bad. We as a people or race or ethnic group have our own distinguishing features. The negative must be removed, the positive must be improved.

There are some of the positive aspects of Pashtuns being a nation, a race, ethnic group, a people with Pashto language and Pashtuns code of life or Pashtunwali

Following are some of the points of which I being a Pashtun am proud of

1. All Pashtuns belong to a big extended Pashtun family and in most of the cases when they speak Pashto feel like cousens and members of one family. For me 70 millions Pashtuns whether they live in Pakistan or Afghanistan, or any country of the world are cousens.

One day I asked in a conefrence in a European country that what can be the size of a family , some one told 10, some 100 , I said no. its 70 million . approximately the 70 millions Pashtuns are like one family and this you feel when you meet a Pashtun in a foreign country. Just his or her langauge or being Pashtun is enough identity for us and we receive him or her as our family member

2. Pashtuns generally are not suffering from inferiority complex, they `proudly present themselves as Pashtuns

3. In about 95% cases Pashtuns speak and are proud of their langauge Pashto. Few exceptional cases are Pashtuns specially Muhammadzai in Kabul or Northern Afghanistan who prefer speak Dari or few Pashtun tribes as in Hazara, Mian wali, Attock Paksitan forgot Pashto because of the linguistic and cultural invasion of the neighbouring people.

Here I am talking of speaking and listening. Pashtuns are very bad when we talk of writing and reading Pashto. They seldom write and read Pashto. Its an important negative aspect of Pashtuns that they dont read or write their language.

4. Almost all Pashtuns have maintained their blood line and geneology. Its almost a pure race. The Pashtuns are the world's largest (patriarchal) segmentary lineage ethnic group

5. Pashtuns are generally brave, confident, hard working people living with values, traditions, mores, and honour. Although bravery of Pashtuns is proverbial but this bravery must be practiced with intelligence, tact, and farsightedness otherwise the same bravery can become belligerence , stubbornness, contentiousness, hostility, militance, , pugnaciousness and truculence which do not remain any more a positive characteristic of a person, group or nation.

6. Pashtuns hospitality is proverbial. They are very friendly people But this may not become excessive and may not let ourselves to be used by others and the hospitality of Taliban may not reach to the extent that their guest Osama become their cause of destruction and the camel oust the owner of the camp.