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  • #16
    Originally posted by unknownprince View Post
    I speak to you

    Za khabare (to) ta (or do I use ye)

    Please correct me
    tata khabari kawum or sta sara khabari kawum

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    • #17
      hmmm damn I'm not that great in speaking Pashto :p

      I mean all the pashto I know is informal and just from listening to my Plar jan talk , and he's the only Pashto speaking parent I have, my parents spoke to each other in Arabic.

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      • #18
        Originally posted by unknownprince View Post
        I speak to you

        Za khabare (to) ta (or do I use ye)

        Please correct me
        ta ta khabari kawam/ I speak to you

        ta sara khabari kawam/ I am s speaking with you/ I speak with you

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        • #19
          I want to know the reasons behind structure

          Why is it ta ta? Why is ta repeated twice?

          I like knowing the grammar and all the concepts as if taught in school

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          • #20
            Its not repeated, first taa is long second one is short. more of a tu

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            • #21
              Originally posted by Idiot
              Can you help with the sentence structure? Like I know it's Pashto is a subject object verb grammar, can you help in going in more detail, please?
              what do you want to know i,ll do my best
              throw an example at me.

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              • #22
                what is the reason though?? the linguistic reason for saying ta ta

                why 2 ta's ?

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by Idiot
                  All try not to give you a. Headache.

                  Like I know the sentence starts with a subject, like the object/person you ate talking about, and ends with a verb. But what goes on in the middle/object? I study all phrases which are ok, but when Pashto speakers go deep in conversations am done.

                  What comes after the subject?
                  Does prepositions comes after?
                  Do adjectives come before nouns?
                  Do verbs come after nouns?

                  These sentence structures hold me back, and make me do .



                  Mañana
                  Te pe pukhto khaberey neshey kawelay?
                  TE:you
                  Pe:on/here used but has less to no meaning like "the" in english
                  pukhto:noun but here it is subject i guess(it has been along time since my english grammer lessons)
                  khaberey:speaking
                  neshey:cant
                  kawelay:do

                  aaya,taa ta pukhto ne darzey? is it so that you cant speak pashto?
                  aaya:is it so
                  taa:you
                  ta:to
                  Pukhto
                  ne:not
                  darzey:means come but here means,know

                  pukhto dera aasana jeba da.pukhto is very easy language.

                  pukhto
                  dera:very much
                  aasana:easy
                  jeba:tongue
                  da.is

                  try if you can figure it out

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by unknownprince View Post
                    what is the reason though?? the linguistic reason for saying ta ta

                    why 2 ta's ?
                    taa means you ta means for
                    so taata means for you/or to you

                    Taata za salaam wayema

                    to you i say salaam

                    in pashto we we dont count as in english,
                    for example 28 ata esht or ateesht
                    it means eight twenty

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                    • #25
                      I think Pakhto is a language as impenetrable as the rough mountain villages it is spoken in. That is why few ever succeed in learning it with little to no prior exposure, whether it be exposure from parents speaking it during childhood or living for a very long time in a Pakhtun community. I blame those parents who do not make it a priority that their children should be fluent in it. I am very glad to see those of you who have taken up the courage to learn it in an attempt to work towards preserving this beautiful language of our forefathers.

                      I suggest those that are willing to learn consider the approach of not focusing on the confusing details of grammatical rules because it would be more easily and quickly learned the way a small child does...through constant exposure and subsequent subconscious/intuitive learning.

                      Perhaps a good idea would be to learn as much as you can now in terms of vocabulary and grammar whilst not letting the confusing bits get to you.. Many aspects of Pakhto grammar are confusing and there is little explanation either than its simply the way things are said. After that, immerse yourself in an environment overflowing with Pakhto speakers and Insha Allah with a little time and patience you will become an expert. After all, we should have the goal to reunite with our kin in Afghanistan or Pakistan one day or another. Hopefully many of us are simply waiting to complete our studies. Another point is for those of you that are learning, is to practice communicating In Pakhto with the members of the forum. That too will encourage intuitive learning.

                      I was fortunate enough to have parents that strictly discouraged anything but Pakhto from being spoken by me or my siblings in the premises of the house.

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by -Gulalai View Post
                        Nice Thread Alchemist!



                        Dasey ma waya we are all learning! if you respond to us like that then we will be to shy to ask questions.
                        Da pradoo watan ke Pakhto sanga ezda ko? hum dalta ba ye ezda kawo kana
                        toqa me kawela

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                        • #27
                          So can anyone else help with better explaining the Subject Object Verb, sentence and paragraph structuring? I know Pashto words, but can't structure the sentences properly. My family always thinks am speaking some other language. It is getting frustrating.

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by darwezkhail View Post
                            I think Pakhto is a language as impenetrable as the rough mountain villages it is spoken in. That is why few ever succeed in learning it with little to no prior exposure, whether it be exposure from parents speaking it during childhood or living for a very long time in a Pakhtun community. I blame those parents who do not make it a priority that their children should be fluent in it. I am very glad to see those of you who have taken up the courage to learn it in an attempt to work towards preserving this beautiful language of our forefathers.

                            I suggest those that are willing to learn consider the approach of not focusing on the confusing details of grammatical rules because it would be more easily and quickly learned the way a small child does...through constant exposure and subsequent subconscious/intuitive learning.

                            Perhaps a good idea would be to learn as much as you can now in terms of vocabulary and grammar whilst not letting the confusing bits get to you.. Many aspects of Pakhto grammar are confusing and there is little explanation either than its simply the way things are said. After that, immerse yourself in an environment overflowing with Pakhto speakers and Insha Allah with a little time and patience you will become an expert. After all, we should have the goal to reunite with our kin in Afghanistan or Pakistan one day or another. Hopefully many of us are simply waiting to complete our studies. Another point is for those of you that are learning, is to practice communicating In Pakhto with the members of the forum. That too will encourage intuitive learning.

                            I was fortunate enough to have parents that strictly discouraged anything but Pakhto from being spoken by me or my siblings in the premises of the house.

                            My parents watch a lot of afghan television. And sometimes I watch the pashto news on the afghan television.

                            So funny story...

                            We we were watching the news, and it was about wells in kabul and how it was difficult to get water for people. I turned to my father and I tried to pronounce Wa Bakho, and he says "yeah...yeah ...wobo..." ... I am thinking wow, I got it... and my mom turns and says "yes water is wobo" .. water?! lol ....

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                            • #29
                              Assalam-Alaikum Alchemist,

                              I am more than glad in assisting you in learning Pashto. Do you know the basics? Which languages can you currently speak?

                              Originally posted by Idiot View Post
                              So can anyone else help with better explaining the Subject Object Verb, sentence and paragraph structuring? I know Pashto words, but can't structure the sentences properly. My family always thinks am speaking some other language. It is getting frustrating.
                              Don't be frustrated Idiot Jaan. We can speak Pashto here.
                              Even Adobe Photoshop can't change me.

                              A line[Durrand line] of hatred that raised a wall between the two brothers -Hamid Karzai

                              For generations, the Hindus of India prayed for deliverance from "the venom of the cobra, the teeth of the tiger and the vengeance of the Afghan."


                              The men of Kábul and Khilj also went home; and whenever they were questioned about the Musulmáns of the Kohistán (the mountains), and how matters stood there, they said, "Don't call it Kohistán, but Afghánistán; for there is nothing there but Afgháns and disturbances." Thus it is clear that for this reason the people of the country call their home in their own language Afghánistán, and themselves Afgháns. The people of India call them Patán; but the reason for this is not known. But it occurs to me, that when, under the rule of Muhammadan sovereigns, Musulmáns first came to the city of Patná, and dwelt there, the people of India (for that reason) called them Patáns—but God knows!

                              -Ferishta, 1560–1620

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                              • #30
                                English is my first language, dari/farsi my second and arabic a third.

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