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  • Originally posted by checkmate View Post
    Answer the question. Are you saying that both of Adam and Eves parents were non-human?

    Answer, and stop evading.
    I think this professor sucks. All he's doing is playing with words, throwing them everywhere and emotionally blackmailing his students.


    I should have checked rate my professors.

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    • Originally posted by ScimitarXEdge View Post
      hahahha

      You know someone's debate is weak when someone else has to explain it for you.

      thanks for proving my point.


      But yes , Adam and Eve if we take them to mean the first humans, probably came from non-human Primates originally
      I did not prove your point. Because you didn't want to answer the question, you started looking at an irrelevant mistake. The fact is, his question still holds.

      you are now saying that Adam and Eve's parents were primates

      Did these primate parents live with Adam and Eve?

      Are you then suggesting that Adam and Eve just happened to find each other, being the first humans and all?

      haha how did they interact with their primate parents and relatives? Adam's children must have also been in touch with their primate grandparents, you think?

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      • Originally posted by checkmate View Post
        I did not prove your point. Because you didn't want to answer the question, you started looking at an irrelevant mistake. The fact is, his question still holds.

        you are now saying that Adam and Eve's parents were primates

        Did these primate parents live with Adam and Eve?

        Are you then suggesting that Adam and Eve just happened to find each other, being the first humans and all?

        haha how did they interact with their primate parents and relatives? Adam's children must have also been in touch with their primate grandparents, you think?


        That's a VERRRRRRY relevant mistake...if you don't know what proceeds nd what precedes then where is the premise?

        When you have a wrong premise the Question flounders

        and that's why Kaish keeps editing and re-editing his post because he keeps getting confused on whether or not Homo erectus came before or after neanderthals.


        Why would you think that they'd necessarily have the same modes of social operations we humans now have?

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        • Originally posted by کیش View Post
          I think this professor sucks. All he's doing is playing with words, throwing them everywhere and emotionally blackmailing his students.


          I should have checked rate my professors.


          You're making excuses for a weak debate ....not my fault

          this is why you anti science people cant hold your own.

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          • Originally posted by checkmate View Post
            Answer the question. Are you saying that both of Adam and Eves parents were non-human?

            Answer, and stop evading.
            if you read two posts up I just answered; you're getting ansty because you thought you could find a dent in the debate and you're losing patience

            typical Christian creationist tactic.

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            • Originally posted by کیش
              That's a very stupid assumption Mehmoud Musaylimah, I edit my post to add more information to them. Not to switch my words.



              Can you please answer the question, professor? Seriously WTF.
              yes the answer to your question; is Natural selection; the organisms with the selected genes for Neanderthals became a new species known as Neanderthals

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              • [QUOTE]
                Originally posted by ScimitarXEdge View Post
                That's a VERRRRRRY relevant mistake...if you don't know what proceeds nd what precedes then where is the premise?
                not really. It still deals with the same basic question regardless of whether he speaks of Neanderthals or Homo Hablis.

                Why would you think that they'd necessarily have the same modes of social operations we humans now have?
                Primates live with each other. Are you now suggesting that these primates (the closest relatives to humans, according to you did not live with each other when their earlier ancestors did?)

                So, these primates gave birth to Adam and Eve, and just left them alone to starve?

                Your argument is becoming a circus show. You talk in "perhaps" and "maybes" when the Quran has stated it clearly. You keep evading questions. I think you also don't believe that Mariam (ra) was a virgin, right?
                Last edited by Guest; 08-21-2011, 03:46 AM.

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                • Originally posted by ScimitarXEdge View Post
                  if you read two posts up I just answered; you're getting ansty because you thought you could find a dent in the debate and you're losing patience

                  typical Christian creationist tactic.
                  Actually, I think you are the one who is getting angry.

                  I am asking you questions which you appear incapable of answering.

                  So, you focus on either me or Kais. How immature and silly.

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                  • [QUOTE=checkmate;498161]
                    not really. It still deals with the same basic question regardless of whether he speaks of Neanderthals or Homo Hablis.

                    Incorrect because if he assumes one proceeds the other; then he's going backwards.


                    Primates live with each other. Are you now suggesting that these primates (the closest relatives to humans, according to you did not live with each other when their earlier ancestors did?)
                    Not always, primates live in groups, certain groups may have certain mutations; but those groups may migrated and become isolated ...and in turn further isolated as they expand...this makes sense if we consider that Early Humans were Hunter Gatherers....which would perfectly correspond to the punctuation of new species from a parent primate species.

                    See ya gotta keep an open mind ...no false assumptions.


                    So, these primates gave birth to Adam and Eve, and just left them alone?
                    No; but their parents had a mutation which allowed them to expand beyond their local niche for food and other resources, since species evolve in respects to different ecological factors.



                    Your argument is becoming a circus show. You talk in perhaps and maybes when the Quran has stated it clearly. I think you also don't believe that Mariam (ra) was a virgin, right?
                    The maybes and perhaps are in the precise instances of how it happened; the Qur'an doesn't state how If we're made of clay, why is our Tissue composed of Amino Acids and Not Silicate Compounds

                    do you have an explanation of how silicate compounds can form proteins?

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                    • Originally posted by کیش
                      I don't like how our professor plays with our words, the throws it around like pizza dough.


                      Can he also please answer what species, was Prophet Idris, Enoch, Nuh (AS)
                      No playing with words

                      you were simply wrong in your premise ....wrong is wrong dude....deal with it

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                      • obviously

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                        • Originally posted by کیش
                          So your saying Adam and Eve, had parents?



                          How was I wrong, when I am getting the information from you and asking questions about it.


                          I am also getting the timelines from Wikipedia.


                          But I never mentioned Neanderthals so you're not getting information from me...

                          don't lie....you have a weak debate.

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                          • [QUOTE][QUOTE=ScimitarXEdge;498166]
                            Originally posted by checkmate View Post

                            No; but their parents had a mutation which allowed them to expand beyond their local niche for food and other resources, since species evolve in respects to different ecological factors.
                            Everything else you said was the usual topic changing/evading ways typical of you when your argument is weak and a joke.

                            So now, you are saying that Adam and Eve's parents were the first humans?

                            Am I correct? And what about their parents, and their grandparents?

                            How far can you go?

                            Also, do you think Marium (ra) was a vrigin. She was a virgin, according to the Quran, and the birth of Prophet Isa (peace be upon him) was a miracle.

                            What do you think? You failed to answer this. Answer. This is relevant, and I want to know what you say.

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                            • by the way the fact you're trying to edit and re-edit your posts shows you're all over the map and don't know what to argue LOL

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                              • Originally posted by کیش
                                Isn't that against the Quran? According to the holy scriptures Adam and Eve were originally possibly in heaven first. Then after getting duped by Satan, was then thrown to earth.
                                But if we take that as true, that would mean that the idea of Adam and Eve being made from clay isn't Literal since Heaven isn't Earthly and wouldn't follow Earthly functions like clay

                                so you're admitting this isn't literal now?

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