Evolution theory contradicts the Quran and Hadiths

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Belief in evolution is a form of apostasy for a Muslim since it directly conflicts and denies what has been told to us in the Quran and the verifying Hadiths.

(Al-Imran 3: 59) " The similitude of Jesus before Allah is as that of Adam; He created him from dust, then said to him: "Be". And he was."

This tells us that Adam was directly produced from clay (earth) and was not born to a father and a mother.

Some important hadiths to further clarify the matter and put it to rest.

Abu Musa narrated that the Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) said: "Allah created Adam from a handful of dust taken from different lands, so the children of Adam have been created according to the composition of the land. Therefore from mankind we have white, red, black and yellow ones; we have good and evil, ease and sorrow, and what comes in between them."

Abu Hurairah narrated that the Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) said: "Allah created Adam from dust after He mixed the clay and left him for some time until it became sticky mud, after which Allah shaped him. After that Allah left him till it became like potter's clay. Iblis used to go past him saying 'You have been created for a great purpose.' After that Allah breathed His spirit into him. The first thing into which the spirit passed was his eye and then his nose. He sneezed. Allah said: "May your Lord have mercy upon you, O Adam! Go to those angels and see what they would say.' So Adam went and greeted them. they replied saying: "Peace be upon you and the mercy and blessings of Allah." Allah said: "O Adam! This is your greeting and that of your offspring."

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the verse and ahadith you posted themselves are evidence that evolution does not contradict the Qur'an and rather only contradicts superficial interpretations of the Qur'an and ahadith. Demonstrating that only jahaliyeen who try to speak on behalf of Allah(swt) instead of letting Islam speak for itself.




here it says "inna MATHAL 'Isa 'ainda Allahi ka MATHALI Adama khalaqahu min turabin"

this means in Arabic" surely the analogy of Jesus in God's perception is like the analogy of Adam, composed of Earth (turab)"

it's saying that that God is using the same analogy for Isa and Adam, not that God literally made adam from clay, because according to other verses of the Qur'an , Isa was not born materially; so he could not be made the same way as Adam. "kun fa yakun" means "God makes things happen as he wills".

So this verse actually shows that Isa and Adam were both made from earthly matter, and that the story of Isa and Adam's birth is just an analogy/metaphor


The hadith about the different soils of the Earth is even more consistent with evolution

Abu Musa narrated that the Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) said: "Allah created Adam from a handful of dust taken from different lands, so the children of Adam have been created according to the composition of the land. Therefore from mankind we have white, red, black and yellow ones; we have good and evil, ease and sorrow, and what comes in between them."

So this means that the environmental factors is what causes different types of humans, which is what evolution teaches. This hadith is just a metaphoric reference to evolution.



this means the other ahadith about the subject are metaphors too


so therefore Islam and evolution are in perfect harmony

Allah Akbar .....God is the Best of Planners and the plan of the Jahilyeen to corrupt his words have been thwarted.

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the verse and ahadith you posted themselves are evidence that evolution does not contradict the Qur'an and rather only contradicts superficial interpretations of the Qur'an and ahadith. Demonstrating that only jahaliyeen who try to speak on behalf of Allah(swt) instead of letting Islam speak for itself.




here it says "inna MATHAL 'Isa 'ainda Allahi ka MATHALI Adama khalaqahu min turabin"

this means in Arabic" surely the analogy of Jesus in God's perception is like the analogy of Adam, composed of Earth (turab)"

it's saying that that God is using the same analogy for Isa and Adam, not that God literally made adam from clay, because according to other verses of the Qur'an , Isa was not born materially; so he could not be made the same way as Adam. "kun fa yakun" means "God makes things happen as he wills".

So this verse actually shows that Isa and Adam were both made from earthly matter, and that the story of Isa and Adam's birth is just an analogy/metaphor


The hadith about the different soils of the Earth is even more consistent with evolution




So this means that the environmental factors is what causes different types of humans, which is what evolution teaches. This hadith is just a metaphoric reference to evolution.



this means the other ahadith about the subject are metaphors too


so therefore Islam and evolution are in perfect harmony

Allah Akbar .....God is the Best of Planners and the plan of the Jahilyeen to corrupt his words have been thwarted.

You are an apostate. Your attempt to change the meaning of the Quranic verses proves it.

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You are an apostate. Your attempt to change the meaning of the Quranic verses proves it.

no rather it is you who are ignorant of the meanings of the Qur'an's verses because you don't know Arabic; which means you're innovating.

which proves you're claiming your ideas are Allah(swt)'s which is shirk ...you're a mushirk.

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no rather it is you who are ignorant of the meanings of the Qur'an's verses because you don't know Arabic; which means you're innovating.

which proves you're claiming your ideas are Allah(swt)'s which is shirk ...you're a mushirk.

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You are an apostate. Your attempt to change the meaning of the Quranic verses proves it.

Fighting him will be a hasnah in Ramadhan.

He is an open enemy of islam.

May Allah guide him or bring destruction over him.

InshaAllah

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Fighting him will be a hasnah in Ramadhan.

He is an open enemy of islam.

May Allah guide him or bring destruction over him.

InshaAllah

give it your best shot; I'll gladly show ll you mushirkeen brainwashed wahhabi slaves masquerading as Monotheists how true Monotheists do things.

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If you guys believe in creationist ideas that were brought to this world by Christians then you have to defend them through reasoning. the christians have given up and lost their battle and now you guys are coming to defend the losers. So far I see Scimitar giving reasoning to defend what he believes but the retort is just name calling.

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give it your best shot; I'll gladly show ll you mushirkeen brainwashed wahhabi slaves masquerading as Monotheists how true Monotheists do things.

you made your own Tafseer and explanation of this verse while you have no knowledge of arabic nor of the background of the ayah.

you show openly your hatred toward islam.

Tafseer 1 :
{ إِنَّ مَثَلَ عِيسَىٰ عِندَ ٱللَّهِ كَمَثَلِ ءَادَمَ خَلَقَهُ مِن تُرَابٍ ثُمَّ قَالَ لَهُ كُن فَيَكُونُ }

Allah then explained the creation of Jesus without a father because the delegation of Najran asked the Prophet to provide proof from the Qur'an for his saying that Jesus was not the son of Allah, so Allah said: (Lo! the likeness of Jesus) the likeness of the creation of Jesus (with Allah) without a father (is as the likeness of Adam. He created him of dust) without a father or mother, (then He said unto him) to Jesus: (Be! and he is) a son without a father.

Tafseer ibn Katheer :

Allah said,
﴿إِنَّ مَثَلَ عِيسَى عِندَ اللَّهِ﴾
(Verily, the likeness of `Isa before Allah) regarding Allah's ability, since He created him without a father,
﴿كَمَثَلِ ءَادَمَ﴾
(is the likeness of Adam), for Allah created Adam without a father or a mother. Rather,
﴿خَلَقَهُ مِن تُرَابٍ ثُمَّ قَالَ لَهُ كُن فَيَكُونُ﴾
(He created him from dust, then (He) said to him: "Be!'' and he was.)
Therefore, He Who created Adam without a father or a mother is able to create `Isa, as well, without a father. If the claim is made that `Isa is Allah's son because he was created without a father, then the same claim befits Adam even more. However, since such a claim regarding Adam is obviously false, then making the same claim about `Isa is even more false.
Furthermore, by mentioning these facts, Allah emphasizes His ability, by creating Adam without a male or female, Hawa' from a male without a female, and `Isa from a mother without a father, compared to His creating the rest of creation from male and female. This is why Allah said in Surah Maryam,
﴿وَلِنَجْعَلَهُ ءَايَةً لِّلْنَّاسِ﴾
(And We made him a sign for mankind) ﴿19: 21﴾.
Allah said in this Ayah,
﴿الْحَقُّ مِن رَّبِّكَ فَلاَ تَكُنْ مِّن الْمُمْتَرِينَ ﴾
((This is) the truth from your Lord, so be not of those who doubt.) meaning, this is the only true story about `Isa, and what is beyond truth save falsehood Allah next commands His Messenger to call those who defy the truth, regarding `Isa, to the Mubahalah (the curse).

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you show openly your hatred toward islam.

No I show opposition toward Jahleen who parade their ignorance as our Beautiful Deen.

Allah then explained the creation of Jesus without a father because the delegation of Najran asked the Prophet to provide proof from the Qur'an for his saying that Jesus was not the son of Allah, so Allah said: (Lo! the likeness of Jesus) the likeness of the creation of Jesus (with Allah) without a father (is as the likeness of Adam. He created him of dust) without a father or mother, (then He said unto him) to Jesus: (Be! and he is) a son without a father.

This is just Ibn Kathir's opinions; he doesn't show where he got this reference from

Zamakhshari who is one of the greatest Mufasireen in his Tafsir Al Kashshaf says this;

"the word mathal is used twice in the verse indicates that the comparison between Isa and Adam, peace be upon them; serve to demonstrate the use of tashabbah (symbolic language) in describing the nature of their being (tab'a wujudhum). The linguistic usages indicate along with parallel verses that the relation of Adam and Isa, is that they are both mortals, human beings, non-divine but more over that they are earthly beings composed naturally; for Allah is most exalted from worldly functions of his creations and therefore creates things by his qudrah (power) symbolized by his yad (hand) and that they were created by Earthly processes of his creations much the way any mortal child is born."


this is in reference to the same verses; Zamakhshari has higher rank than Ibn Kathir when it comes to mufasireen.

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If you guys believe in creationist ideas that were brought to this world by Christians then you have to defend them through reasoning. the christians have given up and lost their battle and now you guys are coming to defend the losers. So far I see Scimitar giving reasoning to defend what he believes but the retort is just name calling.

"and who is more astray then the one who follows his own whims and desires devoid of revelation" (Surah Al-Qasas 28:50)

Prophet (pbuh): "I warn you of the newly invented matters (in the religion),and every newly invented matter is an innovation, and every innovation is misguidance, and every misguidance is in the Hellfire"
(an-Nasaa'ee)

Allah(swt) says "and whosoever contends with the Messenger after guidance has been made clear to him, and follows a way other than the way of the believers, We shall leave him in the path he has chosen, and land him in Hell, what an evil destination!"

Prophet (pbuh) said "and you will live to see great difference, so cling to my sunnah and the sunnah of the rightly guided caliphs after me, even if it be with your teeth" (Bukhari)


"or do they have partners that legislate some religion which Allaah has not given permission for?"

(Surah Ash-Shura 42:21)

My reasoning is clear as it is stated in the Quran from the single verse (Al: Imran 3:59).
(Al-Imran 3: 59) " The similitude of Jesus before Allah is as that of Adam; He created him from dust, then said to him: "Be". And he was."

There is no argument to be made unless you deny what the Quran says, and try to change the meaning of the Quran which is shirk. Anyone who tries to change the literal meaning of the Quran is an apostate.

The Prophet, saaws, has said: "If anyone introduces into this affair of ours (i.e. the religion of Islam) anything which does not belong to it, he will have it rejected." [Reported by Muslim - Sahih

The Prophet, saaws, said: "Whoever does an action which we (Allah and His Messenger) have not commanded it will be rejected." [Reported by Muslim - Sahih]

I have then showed the Hadiths which I did not have to do, but they further reemphasize the creation of Adam.


The literal interpretation is that Allah(swt) said Be, and Adam was there.

To try to attribute some lengthy process to the creation of Adam and Eve is to then deny what is said in the Quran. If you can change this aspect, you can then go and change the others.

"And hold fast, all of you together, to the Rope of Allâh (i.e. this Qur'ân), and be not divided among yourselves, and remember Allâh's Favour on you, for you were enemies one to another but He joined your hearts together, so that, by His Grace, you became brethren (in Islâmic Faith), and you were on the brink of a pit of Fire, and He saved you from it. Thus Allâh makes His Ayât (proofs, evidences, verses, lessons, signs, revelations, etc.,) clear to you, that you may be guided." [Surah Al-Imrân 3:103].

There is no argument to make since I go by what the Quran says, and not against it. Allah(swt) made us into many tribes, He also made many different beings.

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All these arguments presuppose a literalist paradigm/approach to the Quran so unless you can argue for the legitimacy of that in the first place, all these so called arguments are fallacies of begging the question (petitio principii).

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All these arguments presuppose a literalist paradigm/approach to the Quran so unless you can argue for the legitimacy of that in the first place, all these so called arguments are fallacies of begging the question (petitio principii).

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It is clear in the Quran.
"and who is more astray then the one who follows his own whims and desires devoid of revelation" (Surah Al-Qasas 28:50)

Is the meaning not crystal clear above? Is there something that you can further extrapolate out of this? NO. It is understandable, and there is nothing else to it, no other meaning at all besides what the words convey to us.

the Quran and Hadith, thats all there is, nothing extra. Introducing whims has been warned against.

Allah(swt) says "and whosoever contends with the Messenger after guidance has been made clear to him, and follows a way other than the way of the believers, We shall leave him in the path he has chosen, and land him in Hell, what an evil destination!"

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No I show opposition toward Jahleen who parade their ignorance as our Beautiful Deen.








This is just Ibn Kathir's opinions; he doesn't show where he got this reference from

Zamakhshari who is one of the greatest Mufasireen in his Tafsir Al Kashshaf says this;

"the word mathal is used twice in the verse indicates that the comparison between Isa and Adam, peace be upon them; serve to demonstrate the use of tashabbah (symbolic language) in describing the nature of their being (tab'a wujudhum). The linguistic usages indicate along with parallel verses that the relation of Adam and Isa, is that they are both mortals, human beings, non-divine but more over that they are earthly beings composed naturally; for Allah is most exalted from worldly functions of his creations and therefore creates things by his qudrah (power) symbolized by his yad (hand) and that they were created by Earthly processes of his creations much the way any mortal child is born."


this is in reference to the same verses; Zamakhshari has higher rank than Ibn Kathir when it comes to mufasireen.

Thank you very very much for naming an iranian (mostly deviant sects come from there)

Dear Brothers in Islam now its clear from accussing the great scholar and Mufasser Ibn Katheer(rah), this person is following Mutazilah ( a deviant group based on main kuffar of grec and other theology and philosophy )

from wikipedia :

Mu'tazili theology originated in the 8th century in Basra (Iraq) when Wasil ibn Ata (d. 131 AH/748 AD) left the teaching lessons of Hasan al-Basri after a theological dispute regarding the issue of Al-Manzilah bayna al-Manzilatayn (described below); thus he, and his followers, including Amr ibn Ubayd (d. 144 AH/ 761 AD), were labelled Mu'tazili.[5] Later, Mu'tazilis called themselves Ahl al-Tawhid wa al-'Adl ("People of Divine Unity and Justice") based on the theology they advocated, which sought to ground Islamic creedal system in reason.

Though Mu'tazilis later relied on logic and different aspects of early Islamic philosophy, Greek philosophy, and Hellenistic philosophy, the truths of Islam were their starting point and ultimate reference.[6] The accusations leveled against them by rival schools of theology that they gave absolute authority to extra-Islamic paradigms reflect more the fierce polemics between various schools of theology than any objective reality. For instance, Mu'tazilis adopted unanimously the doctrine of creation ex nihilo, contrary to certain Muslim philosophers who, with the exception of al-Kindi, believed in the eternity of the world in some form or another.[7]

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As expected the typical barking of brainwashed Kharijis who themselves commit blasphemies by doing tajassoum on Allah(swt)

Do you know who Al-Zamakhshari is? If Al-Kashshaf if the work of a deviant Why is it used by even the Brainwashed Kharijis who follow the Saudi Payroll even quote and use Al-Kashshaf as a reference?

and so what if he was of Iranian origin? You know who else was of Iranian origin

Many Great Scholars from Persia, Imam Bukhari, Imam Musilim


This is just a desperate and pathetic attempt to divert focus to compensate for lacking a strong argument and using a reference which is much inferior in credibility.

Typical Wahhabi ignorance