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  • #91
    Originally posted by کیش View Post
    I'm not debating at all. Your the researcher, and I am the student. Your giving you lectures, and I am doing my HW. I am asking you questions so I can better understand what your class is about.


    I am also a very eager student, who is up doing his HW at 2 AM.


    If you were doing your homework .....you wouldn't have switched gears and started going into descendants instead of ancestors

    again fix your debate ......and then try to outsmart me ...because your angle was upside down.

    there that's your homework for today when you do that you'll be ready for another lecture.

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    • #92
      Originally posted by checkmate View Post
      Semantics. I clearly understood that he meant ancestors. Answer his questions Professor.
      then why was he debating based on the assumption that Neanderthals were Adam's children???


      you can't make excuses and scapegoats for people when they're logically inconsistent.

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      • #93
        Also, professor

        Did you watch that documentary that Toramana posted on the religion section. A great scientific piece by none other then Stephen Hawkings, who uses science and the law of nature to proof that god doesn't exist. On how positive energy, and negative energy controls the law of nature.


        Descendants, ancestors, professor you know what I meant. Those two words are practically similar.

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        • #94
          i see that the prophet mohammad says that allah created nations and tribes so they could know each other, but it doesn't give a timeline.

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          • #95
            Originally posted by ScimitarXEdge View Post
            then why was he debating based on the assumption that Neanderthals were Adam's children???


            you can't make excuses and scapegoats for people when they're logically inconsistent.
            But I didn't say that, teacher. I said what were Neanderthals who came after Homo Erectus.

            In a scientific sense didn't Neanderthals also evolve into modern humans? So wouldn't they be considered a part of Adam (as)

            If not then your theory doesn't make any sense.

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            • #96
              Originally posted by کیش View Post
              Also, professor

              Did you watch that documentary that Toramana posted on the religion section. A great scientific piece by none other then Stephen Hawkings, who uses science and the law of nature to proof that god doesn't exist. On how positive energy, and negative energy controls the law of nature.


              Descendants, ancestors, professor you know what I meant. Those two words are practically similar.


              they're the EXACT opposite in meanings "student"

              you're turning out to be a terrible student, how can you be a good student if you're doing poorly on your homework?

              Actually if you actually studied or listened to Hawkings, he's saying that there's no scientific need to implore God as an explanation for the Laws of Nature.

              MUCH MUCH different than your superficial understandings. See what a bad education does for you? You make horrible logic gaps ...for example thinking that ancestors and descendants means the same thing LOL

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              • #97
                Originally posted by ScimitarXEdge View Post
                then why was he debating based on the assumption that Neanderthals were Adam's children???


                you can't make excuses and scapegoats for people when they're logically inconsistent.
                You are the one who is avoiding to answer his questions. I corrected him, now answer.

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                • #98
                  Can you please answer my questions, Instead of attacking them. I thought I could ask questions without being assaulted and emotionally black mailed.

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                  • #99
                    Originally posted by کیش View Post
                    But I didn't say that, teacher. I said what were Neanderthals who came after Homo Erectus.

                    In a scientific sense didn't Neanderthals also evolve into modern humans? So wouldn't they be considered a part of Adam (as)

                    If not then your theory doesn't make any sense.
                    No not necessarily, Evolution isn't always unilinear, it can be colinear, some species die out and others pervade, Humans and Neanderthals are related, bt it doesn't make them the same species or that Neanderthals are necessarily 'modern humans".

                    The theory doesn't make sense because you made some wrong assumptions

                    keep an open mind kiddo

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                    • Originally posted by کیش View Post
                      Can you please answer my questions, Instead of attacking them. I thought I could ask questions without being assaulted and emotionally black mailed.
                      You can just make sure you UNDERSTAND what you're asking first, or else a nonsensical question will get a scathing reply

                      only fair right? Even in school professors scold you for saying stuff that makes no sense to begin with.

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                      • Originally posted by checkmate View Post
                        You are the one who is avoiding to answer his questions. I corrected him, now answer.
                        But he's the one who's getting his question totally backwards, can't answer question with a false premise.....can I?


                        Logic my friend ...one thing brainwashed Wahhabis like yourself lack

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                        • Originally posted by کیش
                          So your saying Human "ancestors" mated with Neanderthals? Who were Neanderthals, did they come from Adam, or not?


                          My mind is open, I see some flaws between this theory and Islam.


                          Your answers aren't making sense, so how would my questions?
                          where did I say this?

                          because your questions are pulling stuff not in the discussion....hence my ancestors arent making sense to you

                          I never mentioned neanderthals, you did.

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                          • homo erectus, homo hablis, neanderthals...its all part of the same debate, no need to escape from the questions he has asked you.

                            correction, he is arguing on the fact that Adam was the first human man, and Eve the first human female.

                            He is asking you if you are in fact suggesting that Adam and Eve both had parents who were non-human.

                            I think this is what his saying. In any case, this is what I am asking you.

                            So?

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                            • Originally posted by checkmate View Post
                              correction, he is arguing on the fact that Adam was the first human man, and Eve the first human female.

                              He is asking you if you are in fact suggesting that Adam and Eve both had parents who were non-human.

                              I think this is what his saying. In any case, this is what I am asking you.

                              You see how ridiculous this becomes
                              hahahha

                              You know someone's debate is weak when someone else has to explain it for you.

                              thanks for proving my point.


                              But yes , Adam and Eve if we take them to mean the first humans, probably came from non-human Primates originally

                              No I don't see how ridiculous it is at all, we even see it happen with many species today, of course not a different gradient and threshold and hence on a different scale than humans, but we see how certain organisms become isolated from their parent species ..and eventually become a new species. I mean we've actually observed this happening. So this would be true for primates as well, since the same genetic laws operate for primates.
                              Last edited by ScimitarXEdge; 08-21-2011, 03:31 AM.

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                              • Answer the question. Are you saying that both of Adam and Eves parents were non-human?

                                Answer, and stop evading.

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