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  • #61
    Originally posted by Firdousi View Post
    According to clash of civilizations all civilizations will clash each other not just Muslims.
    Eventually dude. Before that he thinks the west will try to westernize the Islamic civilization.

    Noam Chomsky on The "Clash of Civilizations" - YouTube

    The Euros losing their **** is purely economical. Not clash of civilizations. It's the commoners. They're the ones who are concerned.

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    • #62
      Originally posted by Elite Pakhtun View Post
      Eventually dude. Before that he thinks the west will try to westernize the Islamic civilization.



      The Euros losing their **** is purely economical. Not clash of civilizations. It's the commoners. They're the ones who are concerned.
      West already invaded, defeated and Westernized the Islamic World. It was called Colonialism. After that we went through decades of secular/Western/non-Islamic ideologies such as nationalism, socialism, communism, democracy,.. and so on. All of them failed to address our concerns. Islamism is just the revival of Islam in politics after decades of non Islamic policies.

      Europe is lost. I mean without USA and its Pax American, and with the European Union falling apart, conflicts will be back very soon. Most of Europeans won't even put a fight basically because they are too weak. They have been enjoying comfortable life for too long and now most of them believe in nothing, they dont care about their way of life nor about their heritage. Most advanced civilization ever created has suicidal tendencies.
      "For thirty years, I endured much pain and strife,
      I awaken the Ajam by this Persian [language]. "

      -Ferdowsi.

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      • #63
        They didn't Westernize the Islamic world. Go to the Islamic world and tell me how Westernized you think it is. Most westernized countries would probably be Turkey and Malaysia, and probably UAE (if you ignore certain things).

        Anyways, I was just telling you what the author thought. He classified the world into 7-8 different civilizations. I'm not making any claims publicly of what I think.

        Also, I don't know about the Euros being weak thing... Euros as usually tall. Sure, they may be perceived as effeminate, but if you want me to be honest, a big part of fighting is just size. Plus I haven't lived there as long as you have, so I'm going to take your word for it. However, the height thing is a factor, don't you agree?

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        • #64
          Originally posted by Elite Pakhtun View Post
          They didn't Westernize the Islamic world. Go to the Islamic world and tell me how Westernized you think it is. Most westernized countries would probably be Turkey and Malaysia, and probably UAE (if you ignore certain things).

          Anyways, I was just telling you what the author thought. He classified the world into 7-8 different civilizations. I'm not making any claims publicly of what I think.

          Also, I don't know about the Euros being weak thing... Euros as usually tall. Sure, they may be perceived as effeminate, but if you want me to be honest, a big part of fighting is just size. Plus I haven't lived there as long as you have, so I'm going to take your word for it. However, the height thing is a factor, don't you agree?
          Yes, they did. Lebanon, Palestine, Syria, Iraq, Morocco, GCC, Uzbekistan, Tajikistan, Algeria, Turkmenistan,.. all these countries were heavily colonized by Russians, Brits and France. Most of Muslims, due to colonial influence, have a very sugarcoated view of their own faith. Most of them get cranky when you say to them that Islam exist practices such as hand-cutting, flogging people or beating your wife.

          Tall? Not all of them. Few of them. Northern Europeans are quite tall. Southern Europeans are not that tall at all. Middle Eastern tall.

          My point is good times make people weak. Plus Europeans have been under a sissyfication process due to social liberalism. Believe me, man, they are weak AF. Its annoying. They are even proud of it. Its embarrassing. These people had such brave, proud and strong ancestors.
          "For thirty years, I endured much pain and strife,
          I awaken the Ajam by this Persian [language]. "

          -Ferdowsi.

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          • #65
            Not gonna help at all. They're better off having open discussions about whether they should keep Arabic names or Persian names. Debate trumps censorship, period.

            Now watch the Tajiks get more and more radicalised, eventually toppling their 'fascist' government.

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            • #66
              Originally posted by Firdousi View Post
              Yes, they did. Lebanon, Palestine, Syria, Iraq, Morocco, GCC, Uzbekistan, Tajikistan, Algeria, Turkmenistan,.. all these countries were heavily colonized by Russians, Brits and France. Most of Muslims, due to colonial influence, have a very sugarcoated view of their own faith. Most of them get cranky when you say to them that Islam exist practices such as hand-cutting, flogging people or beating your wife.

              Tall? Not all of them. Few of them. Northern Europeans are quite tall. Southern Europeans are not that tall at all. Middle Eastern tall.

              My point is good times make people weak. Plus Europeans have been under a sissyfication process due to social liberalism. Believe me, man, they are weak AF. Its annoying. They are even proud of it. Its embarrassing. These people had such brave, proud and strong ancestors.
              I dont see how western civilisation could Fall or even decline....rather what might happen eventually is that it Will absorb the entire planet to the point all of the planet is One homogenous globalized culture....the financial and military Power Will probably shift at some point from West to elsewhere, but Western cultures Will probably absorb the entire World.

              You can see Islam is getting weaker and weaker...and I predict a Lot of Islamic countries Will become fully westernized in the next 100 years, even Afghanistan. Wether its good or bad is another discussion, but its most likely outcome currently.

              If the Soviet invasion and suvsequent eventd had not happened, Afghanistan might already have been a fully westerniz country today, not saying its bad or good, but take a Look at photos of Kabul 1960-1970s....that looked like a Western country in the building process imo.

              Iran looked similar during same era before Islamic rev.

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              • #67
                Originally posted by Firdousi View Post
                Yes, they did. Lebanon, Palestine, Syria, Iraq, Morocco, GCC, Uzbekistan, Tajikistan, Algeria, Turkmenistan,.. all these countries were heavily colonized by Russians, Brits and France. Most of Muslims, due to colonial influence, have a very sugarcoated view of their own faith. Most of them get cranky when you say to them that Islam exist practices such as hand-cutting, flogging people or beating your wife.

                Tall? Not all of them. Few of them. Northern Europeans are quite tall. Southern Europeans are not that tall at all. Middle Eastern tall.

                My point is good times make people weak. Plus Europeans have been under a sissyfication process due to social liberalism. Believe me, man, they are weak AF. Its annoying. They are even proud of it. Its embarrassing. These people had such brave, proud and strong ancestors.
                I think you're forgetting what we were talking about. We're taking about what clash of civilizations said. It classified west and eastern orthodoxy (ie Russia etc) as different. It didn't care about colonization, as it was about the post cold war environment.

                Regarding euros being pussies good to know. It makes sense. All that comfort will do that.

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                • #68
                  Originally posted by Elite Pakhtun View Post
                  They didn't Westernize the Islamic world. Go to the Islamic world and tell me how Westernized you think it is. Most westernized countries would probably be Turkey and Malaysia, and probably UAE (if you ignore certain things).

                  Anyways, I was just telling you what the author thought. He classified the world into 7-8 different civilizations. I'm not making any claims publicly of what I think.

                  Also, I don't know about the Euros being weak thing... Euros as usually tall. Sure, they may be perceived as effeminate, but if you want me to be honest, a big part of fighting is just size. Plus I haven't lived there as long as you have, so I'm going to take your word for it. However, the height thing is a factor, don't you agree?
                  What the **** does tallness have to do with strenght or power?

                  Its not like in a case of war, they Will be fist fighting or using swords ...lol

                  , if they wanted they could kill off entire Middle East and get rid of terrorism once and for all, by dropping a 10-20 nuclear bombs (like IT happend in Japan) ?

                  Last edited by Dmsn; 12-27-2016, 07:11 PM.

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                  • #69
                    Originally posted by Dmsn View Post
                    What the **** does tallness have to do with strenght or power?

                    Its not like in a case of war, they Will be fist fighting or using swords ...lol

                    , if they wanted they could kill off entire Middle East and get rid of terrorism once and for all, by dropping a 10-20 nuclear bombs (like IT happend in Japan) ?

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                    True. But I think Firdousi was referring to physical attributes. He knows Western technology is advanced.

                    Tallness is a factor, albeit possibly a somewhat minor factor (depending on the opponent). Having said that, for those who don't have experience fighting, simply being bigger means something. Height contributes to being big. Fatasses obviously don't count in the "big" category. Although medium additional weight, and being able to use it properly, an help a lot more than a skinny person.

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                    • #70
                      Originally posted by Elite Pakhtun View Post
                      True. But I think Firdousi was referring to physical attributes. He knows Western technology is advanced.

                      Tallness is a factor, albeit possibly a somewhat minor factor (depending on the opponent). Having said that, for those who don't have experience fighting, simply being bigger means something. Height contributes to being big. Fatasses obviously don't count in the "big" category. Although medium additional weight, and being able to use it properly, an help a lot more than a skinny person.
                      Well my point was, the US could have the Taliban/Isis/alqaeda eliminated in One Day, bombing every Region in Afghanistan/Middle esst, if not for Taliban/Isis/alqaeda hiding Among innocent civilians...

                      In this Age, physically doesnt matter....when you can have a child Push a Button releasing bombs on your enemies Head.

                      Us army is filled with weaklings, teenage boys and sissies, yet they are killing Taliban in greater numbers than Taliban Killing us soldiers.
                      Last edited by Dmsn; 12-28-2016, 09:03 AM.

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                      • #71
                        Over 90% of Tajikistanis are literate. They're kind of a nation today that will choose brain over bombs. They're proud of their far history, their culture, their traditions, and have same amount of respect and love for their fellow Tajikis/Persians elsewhere.

                        Though I don't understand how Arabic alphabet can be a threat to their language (especially their written alphabet is in Russian) but considering to use purely cultural names, banning first cousin marriages are both good and bright steps. Good on them.

                        By the way, wasn't it reported more lately they'll now promote Arabic alphabet in parts of their nation so Tajiks across the continent can communicate better and easier? And also a proposed view on possibly banning Russian surnames (aka ov's and ova's)?

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                        • #72
                          Originally posted by Khan6272
                          Yes indeed smart move...

                          We should Perhaps implement similar policies in Afghanistan or promote..Give your kids names from your own culture, rather than others. Being named Mahammad or Abdul Jafar is really No different than being named John or Michael or Kim Jong Un...Before Europeans Arabs were colonizing the world...Lots of distinct cultures went extinct due to their conquests....when you are not Arab but have Arab name you are the living proof of that.
                          If you don't mind me asking, why do you use the screen name "Khan", are you aware Khan is of Turkic origin and not native to our culture?

                          Also, as economist Kaushik Basu says: "For a nation to progress it is important for people to spend time on science, mathematics and literature instead of spending time showing that 5,000 years ago their ancestors did science, mathematics and literature."


                          Originally posted by ذو الفقار
                          don’t try to be smart.

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                          • #73
                            Our culture.

                            "To burn always with this hard gemlike flame, to maintain this ecstasy, is success in life."





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                            • #74
                              Originally posted by Khan6272

                              Yes I am aware what Khan originates from...is not a name...its a title... I use IT her as username, i could use any title...doesnt matter..
                              Sounds like humongous back peddling after getting called out. But let's agree for the sake of argument; why are you using the titles of Turkic foreigners if you're such a purist?
                              Last edited by Iblis_Efreetzai; 01-09-2017, 11:37 PM.

                              Also, as economist Kaushik Basu says: "For a nation to progress it is important for people to spend time on science, mathematics and literature instead of spending time showing that 5,000 years ago their ancestors did science, mathematics and literature."


                              Originally posted by ذو الفقار
                              don’t try to be smart.

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                              • #75
                                Good job, Tajikistan!

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