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  • #61
    Originally posted by MeemWawMeemNoon View Post
    ^My dearest brother, where were you? When I don't see you online I get worried.

    Sangar Jaana, Allah is my witness I love you because you love Hadhrat Muhammad (saw).

    One of my wishes and desires in life is to see you attain a high level of closeness to your Creator. Ameen thumma ameen, ya rabbal 'alameen!

    You always bring warmth to heart!
    And my wish is that you denounce qadianism and become a muslim.
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    • #62
      Our commonalities are:

      We both love Allah Jalla Shanuhu
      We both love His Book
      We both love Hadhrat Muhammad (saw)
      We both love Islam

      Leave it at that.

      May Allah grant you paradise on earth and in the Hereafter, beloved brother!
      Islam will prevail, a promise made by the Creator of this universe:

      [61:8] They desire to extinguish the light of Allah with the breath of their mouths, but Allah will perfect His light, even if the disbelievers hate it.

      [61:9] He it is Who has sent His Messenger with the guidance and the Religion of truth, that He may cause it to prevail over all religions, even if those who associate partners with God hate it.

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      • #63
        Originally posted by MeemWawMeemNoon View Post
        Our commonalities are:

        We both love Allah Jalla Shanuhu
        We both love His Book
        We both love Hadhrat Muhammad (saw)
        We both love Islam

        Leave it at that.

        May Allah grant you paradise on earth and in the Hereafter, beloved brother!

        may allah guide you and us all!
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        • #64
          Wallahi wrora!
          Islam will prevail, a promise made by the Creator of this universe:

          [61:8] They desire to extinguish the light of Allah with the breath of their mouths, but Allah will perfect His light, even if the disbelievers hate it.

          [61:9] He it is Who has sent His Messenger with the guidance and the Religion of truth, that He may cause it to prevail over all religions, even if those who associate partners with God hate it.

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          • #65
            Originally posted by MeemWawMeemNoon View Post
            Wallahi wrora!
            you are suppose to say ameen. Not Wallahi wrora. Besides, Wallahi wrora doesn't make much sense in pashto.
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            • #66
              I guess I am trying to say: Wallahi ya akhi!

              In Arabic the expression basically means: I know what you mean.
              Islam will prevail, a promise made by the Creator of this universe:

              [61:8] They desire to extinguish the light of Allah with the breath of their mouths, but Allah will perfect His light, even if the disbelievers hate it.

              [61:9] He it is Who has sent His Messenger with the guidance and the Religion of truth, that He may cause it to prevail over all religions, even if those who associate partners with God hate it.

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              • #67
                Originally posted by Mujib View Post
                Physically and spiritually. Mufti Muhammad ibn Adam writes in his answer:
                The belief (Aqidah) of the mainstream Ahl al-Sunnah wa al-Jama'ah is that our beloved Messenger of Allah (Allah bless him & give him peace) and all the other Prophets are alive in their graves.

                This life is physical and worldly (dunyawiyyah), and not just a spiritual one with the soul (barzakhiyyah), as the latter is common for all the people.


                I find it entertaining when every person claims their belief is from Ahl al-Sunnah while there's nothing to support it from any angle of Islaam

                The Prophet in Duniyawiyya sense has died by the consensus of the Companions, who were the ones that buried him. To claim he's alive in physical state is contrary to Islam, logic and any form of sane mindset


                And he cites the hadith:
                5) Aws ibn Aws narrates the Messenger of Allah as saying:

                "Send salutations in abundance on me on Friday, as your sending salutations are presented to me. The Companions inquired: "How is it possible that you receive our salutations when your body will have been decayed? The Messenger of Allah said: "Verily Allah has made forbidden on the earth that it eats the body of the Prophets" (Recorded by Abu Dawud, Nasa'i, Ibn Majah, Darami and others, and authenticated by many, such as Ibn al-Qayyim).

                Firstly, this narration is problematic as it's not agreed to be Saheeh due to the narrator 'Abdullaah ibn Yazeed whom Imaam al-Bukhaari considers as Munkar al-Hadeeth

                Secondly, with the assumption of it being Saheeh, nothing in it states that the Messenger is alive in the worldly sense, it clearly states the Earth is forbidden from eating the bodies of the Prophets

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                • #68
                  Originally posted by Saif ul Haq View Post
                  I find it entertaining when every person claims their belief is from Ahl al-Sunnah while there's nothing to support it from any angle of Islaam
                  And it is not entertaining but sad and unfortunate when non-scholars speak as though they were scholars and contradict the imams of the Ahl al-Sunna, among whom are those who wrote books proving the life of the Prophets (Allah bless them and give them peace).

                  Originally posted by Saif ul Haq View Post
                  To claim he's alive in physical state is contrary to Islam, logic and any form of sane mindset
                  See the hadith of the Prophet (Allah bless him and give him peace) seeing Sayyidina Musa (as) praying in his grave, and also the hadith of the earth's being forbidden from consuming the bodies of Prophets.

                  Originally posted by Saif ul Haq View Post
                  Firstly, this narration is problematic as it's not agreed to be Saheeh due to the narrator 'Abdullaah ibn Yazeed whom Imaam al-Bukhaari considers as Munkar al-Hadeeth
                  Where is `Abd Allah ibn Yazid in the chain? And where has Imam al-Bukhari (ra) declared him munkar? The hadith is not problematic at all. Imam al-Hakim (ra) said it is "sahih, meeting the criteria of Bukhari," and Imam al-Dhahabi (ra) agreed, as mentioned by Mufti Taqi Uthmani.

                  Originally posted by Saif ul Haq View Post
                  Secondly, with the assumption of it being Saheeh, nothing in it states that the Messenger is alive in the worldly sense, it clearly states the Earth is forbidden from eating the bodies of the Prophets
                  Firstly, the statement "with the assumption of it being Saheeh" is misleading as it implies the hadith is not authentic (it is indeed authentic). Secondly, the Prophet (Allah bless him and give him peace) mentioned the preservation of his blessed body in the context of salutations being presented to him. This was in response to the Companions asking "How will our blessings be shown to you when you have decomposed?"
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                  • #69
                    Originally posted by Mujib View Post
                    And it is not entertaining but sad and unfortunate when non-scholars speak as though they were scholars and contradict the imams of the Ahl al-Sunna, among whom are those who wrote books proving the life of the Prophets (Allah bless them and give them peace).
                    Muhammad ibn Adam is not even a actual Mufti, going through a 9 year Mufti course in Dar al-Uloom doesn't make one a qualified Mufti. Especially one who slanders Ahl al-Sunnah with false beliefs like we've just seen quoted



                    See the hadith of the Prophet (Allah bless him and give him peace) seeing Sayyidina Musa (as) praying in his grave, and also the hadith of the earth's being forbidden from consuming the bodies of Prophets.
                    So? Have you seen the grave of Moosa? Is it big enough for him to stand and pray like we do or is this prayer in a different manner?

                    We don't know the actual way they pray as there's nothing authentic telling us on the traits of this prayer



                    Where is `Abd Allah ibn Yazid in the chain? And where has Imam al-Bukhari (ra) declared him munkar? The hadith is not problematic at all. Imam al-Hakim (ra) said it is "sahih, meeting the criteria of Bukhari," and Imam al-Dhahabi (ra) agreed, as mentioned by Mufti Taqi Uthmani.
                    Bukhaari's "Taarikh al-Kaabir"

                    The confusion lies with the actual identity of 'Abdullaah ibn Yazeed. Imaam al-Bukhari said he was ibn Tameem and declared him to be munkar and it's obvious that al-Hakim was wrong since Bukhari himself declared him to be munkar

                    Other who considered ibn Yazeed to be ibn Jaabir said he was thiqa. So the report is problematic along with the identity of the narrator itself

                    There are no authentic reports confirming anything except the last part about the Prophets bodies not decaying. This doesn't mean they are alive in the worldly sense nor is it only unique for them


                    Firstly, the statement "with the assumption of it being Saheeh" is misleading as it implies the hadith is not authentic (it is indeed authentic). Secondly, the Prophet (Allah bless him and give him peace) mentioned the preservation of his blessed body in the context of salutations being presented to him. This was in response to the Companions asking "How will our blessings be shown to you when you have decomposed?"
                    The narration is not authentic as mentioned due to the above reasons

                    And there's nothing authentic that mentions him being alive in the worldly sense, this is a false belief with no indication from the Sunnah

                    Having one's body preserve doesn't mean you're alive in our realm, it's synonymous with not decaying and it also applies to the martyrs and other righteous people

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