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    right basically some muslims, mainly pakistani's say that the prophet is 'alive' now i was slightly taken back by this statement, and others have said that its the 'baraylvi' sect that say that? can anyone clear this up? dont post long scripts from hadiths etc just keep it simple if you can. thanks

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    Pakistan have strange ideas coming out of its soil, most are fabricated by the west to make muslims look stupid and strange to the world. They always celebrate eid on a different day then the rest of the muslim world. Their two nation theory which they say defends islam is actually one of the greatest crimes against humanity. They spent more energy destroying a muslim nation then they did with their sworn enemy india. They are home to all the terrorist organization which are set up to portray muslims as evil and indiscrimanate killers.

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    • #3
      so...erm..what u saying then?..

      i know pakistan has its problems..but i live in england and some people are saying this and that, i dont know who to believe at this rate lol

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      • #4
        Im saying If a pakistani is telling you that then in reality some westerner is actually telling you that because the westerner is feeding that into his mind without him even knowing it. They dont even realize that the pakistani army chief and ISI chief was a white british man for the first ten years.

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        • #5
          The Prophet (saw) is not alive. He has passed away. Like him, all prophets have passed away. Prophets are human beings they don't supersede the laws of nature.
          Islam will prevail, a promise made by the Creator of this universe:

          [61:8] They desire to extinguish the light of Allah with the breath of their mouths, but Allah will perfect His light, even if the disbelievers hate it.

          [61:9] He it is Who has sent His Messenger with the guidance and the Religion of truth, that He may cause it to prevail over all religions, even if those who associate partners with God hate it.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by MeemWawMeemNoon View Post
            The Prophet (saw) is not alive. He has passed away. Like him, all prophets have passed away. Prophets are human beings they don't supersede the laws of nature.

            thats what i said, im sure it is written somewhere that everything will taste death, they saying he is alive in his grave, and that he is like light (noor)

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Shaed View Post
              thats what i said, im sure it is written somewhere that everything will taste death, they saying he is alive in his grave, and that he is like light (noor)
              This is a Quranic verse.

              When they say that he (saw) is alive in his grave, ask them, what is he (saw) doing there? Why does he not come out and save the Muslims from their own hands?
              Islam will prevail, a promise made by the Creator of this universe:

              [61:8] They desire to extinguish the light of Allah with the breath of their mouths, but Allah will perfect His light, even if the disbelievers hate it.

              [61:9] He it is Who has sent His Messenger with the guidance and the Religion of truth, that He may cause it to prevail over all religions, even if those who associate partners with God hate it.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Shaed View Post
                right basically some muslims, mainly pakistani's say that the prophet is 'alive' now i was slightly taken back by this statement, and others have said that its the 'baraylvi' sect that say that? can anyone clear this up? dont post long scripts from hadiths etc just keep it simple if you can. thanks
                I don't know if they mean it in a literal sense, but many Muslims do believe that the Prophet's (PBUH) presence is still in this world. Some sects will staunchly argue that He was "just a man" and that he isn't around anymore, but people with a more spiritual sense of Islam will say the opposite.

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                • #9
                  One need only look at abu Bakr Siddiq (ra) reactions to Rasullulah (saw) death to knownthatt Rasullulah (saw), even though a prophet of God, was still a man.

                  He said, "He who worships Muhammad should be informed that Muhammad has died. He who worships Allah should know that Allah is ever-living and does not die."

                  Abu Bakr (ra) then recited the following verse:

                  "Muhammad is no more than a Prophet: many were the Apostles that passed away before him. If he died or was slain, will ye then turn back your heels?"
                  I desire that which is Just - House of Dukemina.

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                  • #10
                    Barelvis have this belief.. don't pay attention to them they are idiots

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                    • #11
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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Shaed View Post
                        right basically some muslims, mainly pakistani's say that the prophet is 'alive' now i was slightly taken back by this statement, and others have said that its the 'baraylvi' sect that say that? can anyone clear this up? dont post long scripts from hadiths etc just keep it simple if you can. thanks
                        Salam, brother

                        Our beloved Prophet (Allah bless him and give him peace) and all other prophets are alive. This is not just a Pakistani belief, but the belief of the mainstream Muslims.

                        The Prophet (Allah bless him and give him peace) said, "The Prophets are alive in their graves, praying to their Lord." And he (Allah bless him and give him peace) said, ""(The night I was enraptured to my Lord) I saw Musa standing in prayer in his grave." These are both sahih hadiths related by many hadith scholars.
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                        • #13
                          Also see Are the Prophets Alive in Their Graves?

                          We shouldn't comment on things we have no knowledge about or do not understand.
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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Shaed View Post
                            and others have said that its the 'baraylvi' sect that say that?
                            Brother, Barelwis and Deobandis are both traditional Sunni (Ahl al-Sunna) Muslims. They both follow the Hanafi madhhab. They are not sects.

                            The differences between the two groups are minor and should not be a cause for disunity. We shouldn't involve ourselves in the lengthy arguments that cause division; we should work to foster unity amongst them.
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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Mujib View Post
                              Salam, brother

                              Our beloved Prophet (Allah bless him and give him peace) and all other prophets are alive. This is not just a Pakistani belief, but the belief of the mainstream Muslims.

                              The Prophet (Allah bless him and give him peace) said, "The Prophets are alive in their graves, praying to their Lord." And he (Allah bless him and give him peace) said, ""(The night I was enraptured to my Lord) I saw Musa standing in prayer in his grave." These are both sahih hadiths related by many hadith scholars.
                              but beralvies actually believe that the prophet sww attends the Congregational prayers with them

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